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Bad Manners - fighting back

On Friday evening I was pushing my trolley around the rather busy local Migros. There was a disabled chap coming in the opposite direction and I stood aside slightly and waited a second so he could get past. And then - as often happens in such situations, the bloke behind me decided to swerve past me through the gap.

But...I have had this happen so many times, I decided this lack of courtesy was not going to be tolerated. So I pushed my trolley forward again and blocked the gap - thus stopping the rude bugger from getting past; but allowing the disabled gentleman to get through. I then turned and scowled at the at the bad guy - he didn't notice. And...and carried on.

And...later I was down at the Cargo Bar with a friend...and as the bar was full we took our drinks outside. When we finished and wanted to go I took the empties inside and placed them on the bar. On my way out, a chap decided to push his way into the bar - didn't want to let me out first. So I did what I learned from Aikido - dropped my weight slightly so I am not easily moved and waited. He now wasn't going anywhere. I then just turned my hips and pushed past him - and got a knowing smile from a bloke who had been sitting at the bar watching all this.

Incidentally my faith in the Swiss was restored on Saturday when I was trying to get on a bus with my toddler in one hand and a pushchair in the other; and the blanket I use to cover his feet had fallen on the ground at the last moment.. A lady on the seat nearby got up and held my little boys hand while I picked up the bits and got on.

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Re: Bad Manners - fighting back

I know what you mean - I get up to nearly Daily Mail-esque moustache-bristling indignation when people do that sort of thing.
However, Friday night, someone actually put the 'next customer, please' bar on the conveyor when they saw me start to pull up at the checkout. She looked at me sideways and I smiled and said 'merci' and it was like someone switched a light on. Her face lit up and I was treated to a beaming 'Bitte!'
Then, outside, I stepped aside so a couple with a pushchair could get down the ramp to the supermarket and they both said thanks.
A rare day.
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Re: Bad Manners - fighting back

- I hate when people don't let me get off the bus before barging in!
- I hate when old people reject my help rudely. At least be nice!
- I hate when I am carrying a heavy shopping basket and people block the supermarket aisle completely chatting in a group. They see me coming and struggling but don't move out of the way.

I miss 24 hour shopping. Going to Asda supermarket at 2am was heaven.
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Old 16.11.2008, 14:03
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Re: Bad Manners - fighting back

I had an incident at company's local cantina at the place where I work. I usually go to get my lunch at 12h00 sharp and the cantina stays open between 12h00 - 13h30.

One time I got there later and have to find out what is left over to eat... saying that it means not all the meals are served anymore so late. Anyway having my full-plate of buffet's delicacies, I rushed into the cahier where there is a bread tray and one can pick up a few slices (all included in the cost of the meal). There were other folks waiting in a queue to pay and when they realized there was no bread and rolls then soon they decided to wait pathetically until it would get replenished. I nodded with my hand to the cooks that it would need to be refilled but as everone was busy cleaning up, no one bothered to bring it over. Then the cashier called and they said they would slice it for us. Minutes later, nothing happened either so I went to fetch it myself. After I brought a full tray, I left it on the counter and with a manner as I was taught at home, I let the other folks behind me take some bread first. All the hands reached simultaneously... guess what... leaving nothing behind like ''first come first served''. Especially a stylish woman who took the last three slices, she didn't even bother to see that I actually went to organize this bread and she was the last in the queue. At that moment our cashier realized the situation and she was chuckling, thinking what the heck is going on with the courtesy here...Then I took the empty tray and refilled it again. Needless to say, on the way to the table I gave a nasty look to that woman and said nothing. Next time I will know whatever is there take it and don't wait . Sadly, first come first served rule applies...
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Re: Bad Manners - fighting back

Jacek the way you had your apron on made them think that you were the dining lady
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Old 16.11.2008, 14:18
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Hell no! Not that I everyday wear my ABB's lab overalls... but on that particular day I just returned from the employee's fittness centre and my body was craving for nutrients in form of carbs... I guess Murphy's Law again when you really need it you cannot get it
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Re: Bad Manners - fighting back

There are rude people everywhere: generally speaking the Swiss are far more polite and tolerant that other nationalities. Try shopping in Tesco's : my sister is on the till there and can tell you stories which would make your hair stand on end.
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However, Friday night, someone actually put the 'next customer, please' bar on the conveyor when they saw me start to pull up at the checkout. She looked at me sideways and I smiled and said 'merci' and it was like someone switched a light on. Her face lit up and I was treated to a beaming 'Bitte!'
Funny, people quite often put the bar on the belt where I shop. Maybe they want to peek at what other customers buy.
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Funny, people quite often put the bar on the belt where I shop. Maybe they want to peek at what other customers buy.
I usually do this just to avoid paying for other people's groceries.
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On Friday evening I was pushing my trolley around the rather busy local Migros. There was a disabled chap coming in the opposite direction and I stood aside slightly and waited a second so he could get past. And then - as often happens in such situations, the bloke behind me decided to swerve past me through the gap.

But...I have had this happen so many times, I decided this lack of courtesy was not going to be tolerated. So I pushed my trolley forward again and blocked the gap - thus stopping the rude bugger from getting past; but allowing the disabled gentleman to get through. I then turned and scowled at the at the bad guy - he didn't notice. And...and carried on.

And...later I was down at the Cargo Bar with a friend...and as the bar was full we took our drinks outside. When we finished and wanted to go I took the empties inside and placed them on the bar. On my way out, a chap decided to push his way into the bar - didn't want to let me out first. So I did what I learned from Aikido - dropped my weight slightly so I am not easily moved and waited. He now wasn't going anywhere. I then just turned my hips and pushed past him - and got a knowing smile from a bloke who had been sitting at the bar watching all this.

Incidentally my faith in the Swiss was restored on Saturday when I was trying to get on a bus with my toddler in one hand and a pushchair in the other; and the blanket I use to cover his feet had fallen on the ground at the last moment.. A lady on the seat nearby got up and held my little boys hand while I picked up the bits and got on.

Cheers,
Nick
It's no secret that bad manners can be found all over the world. People are in such a hurry everywhere. Fortunately, there are still some kind and considerate people around, they just seem to be in the minority these days.
I despise when I am paying for something and the next person in line is standing too close to me. Usually I ask them if the reason they are standing so close is because they are going to pay for my purchases. This works like a charm, the person steps back, and the cashier usually chuckles too. I think you can humiliate someone with bad manners rather than get into an argument....
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However, Friday night, someone actually put the 'next customer, please' bar on the conveyor when they saw me start to pull up at the checkout. She looked at me sideways and I smiled and said 'merci' and it was like someone switched a light on. Her face lit up and I was treated to a beaming 'Bitte!'
It's always good sport to start loading your groceries really close to the person in front's stuff and see how long it takes them to panic that they might have to pay for them and they then put on the "next customer" bar.

I had to have a stern word with some skinny old trout in the shower room of the swimming pool up at Forch yesterday morning who, in her effort to barge past everyone in her way, managed to shove me and my little boy against one of the shower cubicles. Unfortunately my little boy was in my arms and his chubby little thigh was just at the height of one of the locks on the door frame and, boy, how he howled as it dug in.

Fortunately a couple of other ladies (and, even better, a couple of mums) saw this blatant lack of manners and joined in with me.

What was unfathomable was the fact she retaliated by having a go at us for being in her way. No remorse, no "sorry, I wasn't thinking", nothing. Amazing.

I felt terrible because I had put my little fella in that position but I really had no where to turn in the time the old bat barrelled down the narrow corridor.
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