I'm sure you'd win that bet! And life can dish out some unfair proportions of injustice to some more than others...

The same way I probably had it harder in Switzerland than others, that's why I've got an incurable (for now) groll against my home country and an insatiable love for England, which has been growing steadily for the past 13years... No end in sight...

Could you explain this Bahrain thingi again? I honestly lost you a bit there... The rate is 5 times lower compared to what? And what are you not sure to say?

Can you please unravel this lot for us ? Particularly the "husbands are decided"

As for Bahrain was there last week & for a ME country it is pretty liberal, more so than UAE. It has everything a thirsty / randy squaddy or matelot would ever want in way of entertainment.
Sure your not talking about the Kingdom here ?

Does it have Opera or Theatre for the crab fats?

caters for all tastes, as far as I can make out ... even has sister of Pavarotti in the theatre ...

anyhow, thought entertainment for you lot was a nice cup of tea, jammy dodgers & Ver Lynn on the gramaphone ?

Nope, not sarcastic, 100% serious with my question. I feel saddened that these things have happened to you in Switzerland and fortunate that I've never experienced anything like that. Perhaps I should be a little more aware.

Steady!

Sounds like someone has had a very unpleasant experience in Switzerland.

Don't you think you should get a taxi or a friend to drive you home ?

When I first moved here I lived in the Niederdorf, so very centrally located. More often than not it didn't make any sense to get a cab ride for a 10-15 minute walk home. But, if I did have a friend with a car with me at 3 AM, they're most likely not gonna be able to drive safely, as whose sober at 3 AM if they're out.

I am a very cautious and aware person, however, I refuse to buy into the mentality that danger could be lurking around every corner.

okay, 10 minutes isn't that far but still if its so close a friend wouldn't mind giving you a ride home.
Not everyone drinks and drives.

Bahrain's suicide rate is 5 times lower than Switzerland's. I was just picking out a country which should theoretically be better to live in due to its low suicide rate statistic and pointing out that life isn't always better due to that single fact.

No, no. The point was if I were with someone who had a car, they wouldn't be driving it cause I don't know anybody here who drinks and drives. And actually, I know very few people who have cars to begin with.

I'm such a gentlemen that I would escort you home. If I lived in zurich.

Most important question: What makes life good? What makes people happy?

How do you explain the high suicide rate in Switzerland, which is supposedly such a brilliant country to live in? And the BBC did get it wrong saying the Swiss are the happiest...

Switzerland has got a very dark side to it who nobody either wants to see or talk about... I might just start a new thread to share my own experiences about the Swisstem (Swiss System), which might open some people's eyes about the country they're living in...

Its a dark subject trying to explain that. You may be better off looking for someone with nasty scarring on their wrists and ask them - and we both know thats not going to happen.

I can imagine seeing "the high life" and having to live "the low life" just a few kilometres away isn't helping, being so close yet so far, but that only explains the materialistic side of things. Ex and present Russia has a very high suicide rate. I just don't know why. It hasn't hit a nerve or anything, but I don't feel comfortable talking about it any more than that.

Oh boy have you just sunk yourself! How do YOU know so well who's in this forum? And how are you so sure that noone will explain that having lived through it???

I have nasty scarring on both wrists and on other parts of my body from my 'happiest' years in Switzerland... Let me just also say, that I've been absolutely fine since I've left and didn't need any more help as soon as I have moved to England...

Maybe you should be a bit more careful with your statements in future...

Yeah, I'm definitely backing out of this one with my tail between my legs. My apologies and no offense intended.

Apologies accepted...

For me, being in a place I like living, with people I like spending time with. I tried a lot of places in England and never found it. Since moving here, I've hardly stopped smiling. Horses for courses, you prefer England, others prefer Switzerland.

Why does it need to be explained? It's entirely possible that such stats are skewed because culturally the Swiss are much more likely to open up to admissions of attempted suicide than the more naturally reserved and private English would be. I'm always skeptical of any survey conducted to establish "who is happier, us or them"...

Do you go around stealing ice creams off kids just to teach them "life isn't fair"? If someone really loves a country, why would you deliberately try to ruin it for them - I could tell all kinds of harrowing tales about the UK but clearly you think the place is brilliant and I have no desire to burst your bubble. Similarly please leave my bubble intact until I choose to burst it myself.

And one final note, while it is indeed a tragedy that anyone should be driven to consider, or act upon, thoughts of self harm or suicide, it's also reasonably shabby behavoiur to use the fact of having done so to score points off someone in an argument.

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I could tell all kinds of harrowing tales about the UK but clearly you think the place is brilliant and I have no desire to burst your bubble. Similarly please leave my bubble intact until I choose to burst it myself.

And one final note, while it is indeed a tragedy that anyone should be driven to consider, or act upon, thoughts of self harm or suicide, it's also reasonably shabby behavoiur to use the fact of having done so to score points off someone in an argument.

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Thanks for your comment, I do think that's quite a grown up way to look at things and I'm more than happy not to burst your bubble if you prefer it that way...

First of all it was a discussion and not an argument and secondly it wasn't about scoring points but to make somebody aware, that they could have seriously let themselves down making the same comments in front of a person, which would be much more embarassing than actually saying it on here...

Call it shabby... Why on earth would I have to let this one go? Someone has clearly crossed my personal line by assuming that I'm just having a rant with no substance whereas I have been talking about it because of personal experiences, which I haven't rubbed in anybody's face up to that point, but felt I have to say something because my buttons were pushed...

And it'd be quite sad if you'd think that any of this is a 'game' for me...