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Old 23.07.2008, 17:51
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Old 23.07.2008, 21:10
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

I don't hate Switzerland - I think we've just got a cordial dislike of each other. But it doesn't mean I can't see why other people either really dislike it or really love it here.
Not everyone likes the same things, so I get a little annoyed with posters who say 'well everything's dandy for me, so you must be wrong/lying/mental', just as I do with the 'everything here bites ass' crowd. It's a rare thing in this corner of the forum to hear 'yeah, I don't agree, but I see what you're saying.'
Sure, I get annoyed when people here can't queue for toffee, but I like it that my bins are emptied twice a week. It's all part of living somewhere that isn't what you once called home - some things you like (Kasekuche), some things you don't (Rivella).
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Old 23.07.2008, 22:01
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

I do agree with you on the empathy thing...seems too many people want to argue sometimes...

I happen to like living here, a lot. I liked living in Sweden and I liked living in the US, where I am from. I definitely understand when people need to vent about things, as everyone has their own tolerance for change and their own way of expressing what they like or dislike.

I remember being told once (when I was young and first moved abroad), that, "hate is a very strong word." I took that advice to heart and rarely use the word now. Hard for me to hate a place with so much natural beauty and great public transport. And floating down the Limmat for hours, with my fiancee and dog on Summer weekends has been so much fun. Warm water that you could practically drink...followed by a grilled brat and a beer.

Anyway...I feel privileged to be able to experience different places. One day, I will settle somewhere and keep fond memories of the places where I have lived...

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I don't hate Switzerland - I think we've just got a cordial dislike of each other. But it doesn't mean I can't see why other people either really dislike it or really love it here.
Not everyone likes the same things, so I get a little annoyed with posters who say 'well everything's dandy for me, so you must be wrong/lying/mental', just as I do with the 'everything here bites ass' crowd. It's a rare thing in this corner of the forum to hear 'yeah, I don't agree, but I see what you're saying.'
Sure, I get annoyed when people here can't queue for toffee, but I like it that my bins are emptied twice a week. It's all part of living somewhere that isn't what you once called home - some things you like (Kasekuche), some things you don't (Rivella).
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Old 24.07.2008, 07:34
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Re: negative stuff about life in Switzerland

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Isn't it funny how they stand and wait for the green man to tell them when it's OK to cross the road? Sometimes people stand there for ages when theres no traffic coming, waiting for the green man. It doesn't get on my nerves, I just think It's funny.
I find this funny too. Someone recently told me that you can get fined if you break the rule. Apparently you should adhere to the proper crossings if you're within 50 metres of one.

There's nothing I particularly hate about Switzerland. I find plenty of quirky things here though. In many ways they make a place more interesting. It would be so very boring if everything was the same everywhere.
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I find this funny too. Someone recently told me that you can get fined if you break the rule. Apparently you should adhere to the proper crossings if you're within 50 metres of one.
Yep, break the crossings rule and this man will come and get you:



or even worse...this man:



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Old 24.07.2008, 08:47
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

Only truly unhappy people or hateful people hate? Life is what you make it? Harden the up? Lighten the up?

Is it the place or the person they are that makes one unhappy?
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Old 24.07.2008, 09:36
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Hi, yes I do speak fluent German but Hochdeutsch, my Swiss German isn't good, I can understand Zürideutsch but Bern is tricky. All generalisationsa re fraught with danger, as an example of what I meant I could use the recycling idea. It makes sense to have collection points for bottles, clothing, tins and waste oil but why can't they have collection containers for paper and cardboard? They do in Germany but when this topic is discussed with some Swiss they insist that the Swiss system is far better - even though it may mean piles of neatly wrapped up paper being left on the pavements, sometimes for days. Containers just seemed to make more sense to me.
hahaha! who ever says the CH- collecting paper system is better is nuts, especially when she/he never has lived in germany and was used to this more convenient thing of collecting paper n cardboard. dunno about recycling, effectivity compared to germany...
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Old 24.07.2008, 10:08
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hahaha! who ever says the CH- collecting paper system is better is nuts, especially when she/he never has lived in germany and was used to this more convenient thing of collecting paper n cardboard. dunno about recycling, effectivity compared to germany...
we have paper/cardboard wheelie bins next to the rubbish bin. (Ittigen)
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we have paper/cardboard wheelie bins next to the rubbish bin. (Ittigen)
Do they go all soggy when it rains?
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

I would gladly sell my house and all its contents to help the Swiss.

Hug a Swissie today - that's what I say!

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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

If you dont mind, you can try taxi car driving if you know driving and I think this job needs not much language and we can be free at any time. Old cars are available at lower price.
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If you dont mind, you can try taxi car driving if you know driving and I think this job needs not much language and we can be free at any time. Old cars are available at lower price.
I don't know what it's like in Geneva but up here taxi licenses are rarer than rocking horse manure .
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If you dont mind, you can try taxi car driving if you know driving and I think this job needs not much language and we can be free at any time. Old cars are available at lower price.
I need to set to get to the Reubens Nightclub from Casbar Kebabs. Can you send a car round? And how much do you charge for Manchester Airport?

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Old 24.07.2008, 11:42
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Do they go all soggy when it rains?
no Mr Nitpicker, as they are in our subterranean nuclear shelter like garage ....
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I would gladly sell my house and all its contents to help the Swiss.

Hug a Swissie today - that's what I say!

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Old 24.07.2008, 11:46
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

Learnt something new today again then - I guess that the paper/card collection systems have cantonal variations?
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

In regards to "hating" Switzerland - does anyone else find that it really gets them down when other expats rant about the Swiss? I know (as a poster rightly pointed out above) that saying "well just pack up and leave" to them is very glib and unrealistic but it really gets me down when people rant about the Swiss/Switzerland.

There are annoying things about living here - no dispute but there are annoying things about living everywhere. For me it looks like Ill be here pretty much pernamently (due to certain life choices/paths). I get homesick - and listening to expats rant makes me even more homesick. I want to make the best of the good stuff and deal with or ignore (whichever is appropriate) the bad stuff.

For me the thing I hate most about Switzerland is listening to expats (who happily benefit from the positives of living here) being unnecessarily negative about Switzerland.

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Old 24.07.2008, 12:45
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Re: Why I HATE Switzerland.

I for one agree entirely with your comments. I didn't actually start this latest chain in the thread "why I HATE Switzerland", I created a new thread which was intended to be a little light hearted look at teh quaint/amusing aspects of life in Switzerland but the postings were all moved to the "Hate" thread by the mods. If you check my Profile you'll note that teh main reason I haven't been anywhere near any "english" forums in any of the countries I've lived in since leaving the UK is that like you, I have no time for the moaning and whining about how this particular place is not as good or whatever when compared to home. As always in a forum, threads develop a life of their own. I didn't intend to start a list of things I hate, merely the amusing quirky aspects of this place - such as the waiting for the green man as noted by one poster.
I agree that if people don't like it here they usually have a choice to make, it might not be practical to just leave but moaning about it won't change things. To be honest, I regret having apparently awoken a sleeping dog with my thread of yesterday. I probably choise an inappropriate title but it was never meant to be a list of stuff I "hate".
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In regards to "hating" Switzerland - does anyone else find that it really gets them down when other expats rant about the Swiss? I know (as a poster rightly pointed out above) that saying "well just pack up and leave" to them is very glib and unrealistic but it really gets me down when people rant about the Swiss/Switzerland.

There are annoying things about living here - no dispute but there are annoying things about living everywhere. For me it looks like Ill be here pretty much pernamently (due to certain life choices/paths). I get homesick - and listening to expats rant makes me even more homesick. I want to make the best of the good stuff and deal with or ignore (whichever is appropriate) the bad stuff.

For me the thing I hate most about Switzerland is listening to expats (who happily benefit from the positives of living here) being unnecessarily negative about Switzerland.

Just my 2c
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Learnt something new today again then - I guess that the paper/card collection systems have cantonal variations?
Communal rather than cantonal, I think you'll find.
Here we take paper and cardboard to the dump along with everything else. The only thing the commune collects is household rubbish (no expensive bags or stickers required!).
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Communal rather than cantonal, I think you'll find.
Here we take paper and cardboard to the dump along with everything else. The only thing the commune collects is household rubbish (no expensive bags or stickers required!).
Ah, in the aprticular part of Zürich Kanton where we live we have to buy the little stickers for the 35l rubbish bags. A few km down the road and it's a different system. The enormous variety in a country this small is amazing :-)
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