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Zürich people attending a concert: What is wrng with these people?

Like already said went to P.S.B concert last night at Härterei...

What is wrong with Zürich people attending a dance concert!!!?

Hey people you've come to a dance concert!!! So dance around!!! Don't just stare at the stage moving your head rythmically ( not always dare I say). Live a little!!!

Ok I might exaggerate a bit but that is the feeling someone may get who has gone to a good deal of concerts in Europe and now goes to concerts in Zürich...

I don't know how it is in the rest of switzerland but I dare say that whenever I've been to a concert in Zürich the crowd is pretty lame. 80% of the people don't move ( and yes they've come to a DANCE concert!!!) Ok they clap and make an effort to move and sing along but nothing close to people having fun at concerts like in the rest of europe (especially south europe.. yes I come from south europe )

Zurich people suck as concert crowd...and I DON'T take that back
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Didn't think it possible to dance to a PSB track!
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I dunno, on the way back from Schynige Platte, there were many revellers coming back from the Greenfield Festival who were bragging about their mosh-pit exploits. First time I've ever heard a pit referred to in its diminuitive 'moshpitli'...
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Like already said went to P.S.B concert last night at Härterei...

I don't know how it is in the rest of switzerland but I dare say that whenever I've been to a concert in Zürich the crowd is pretty lame. 80% of the people don't move ( and yes they've come to a DANCE concert!!!) Ok they clap and make an effort to move and sing along but nothing close to people having fun at concerts like in the rest of europe (especially south europe.. yes I come from south europe )

Zurich people suck as concert crowd...and I DON'T take that back
This is so true. I have always been in the minority at any concert in the Hallenstadion (Jamiroquai, Police etc etc) due to my propensity to flings my limbs out spasmodically. The funniest thing is that people give you strange looks as if you are doing something abnormal (ok, perhaps that is a fair thing to do given my spectacular moves).

It's probably lack of confidence in many Zurchers who I feel do not tend to be extrovert, even when the occasion suits. I am not an exhibitionist in any way shape or form, I just like to dance when there is music. I am always amazed that a large number of people turn up to these events and just don't participate. Perhaps it is just that venue because it's mainstream. Perhaps it's because I lived in Manchester, London and Brighton and you know when you are in a concert. Then again, it could just be the alcohol.
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Re: Zürich people attending a concert: What is wrng with these people?

I was amazed at the recent Snow Patrol concert when the security guys at the front of the stage were handing out earplugs, and people were actually using them.. at a concert... Now, I appreciate Snow Patrol may not be everyone's thing but if you've paid to see them then surely earplugs is a bit much?
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I was amazed at the recent Snow Patrol concert when the security guys at the front of the stage were handing out earplugs, and people were actually using them.. at a concert... Now, I appreciate Snow Patrol may not be everyone's thing but if you've paid to see them then surely earplugs is a bit much?
I'm probably going to sound a bit old here but it is scary how much permanent damage you can do to your hearing if you regularly expose it to the sound levels generated at a concert.

I don't know but it might be a safety requirement to hand ear plugs out here and up to the individual to decide whether to protect their hearing or not.

The father of a former work colleague was in a band from the mid 60s and also regularly attended rock concerts. He has partial hearing loss and mind-bending tinnitus now he is older.
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This is so true. I have always been in the minority at any concert in the Hallenstadion (Jamiroquai, Police etc etc) .... Then again, it could just be the alcohol.
I was at that Police concert and to say that was disappointing is beyond words. Stewart Copeland was the only one who looked like he gave a damn. Both Sting and Andy Summers looked like guys in their late 50's relieved that the hellish tour was almost over.

The Police are one of all my all-time favourite groups so perhaps that was my feeling (and perhaps others at the Hallenstadion that evening). I guess alcohol would have helped me get into the spirit a bit more.
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I'm probably going to sound a bit old here but it is scary how much permanent damage you can do to your hearing if you regularly expose it to the sound levels generated at a concert.

I don't know but it might be a safety requirement to hand ear plugs out here and up to the individual to decide whether to protect their hearing or not.

The father of a former work colleague was in a band from the mid 60s and also regularly attended rock concerts. He has partial hearing loss and mind-bending tinnitus now he is older.
I must be getting old. I generally find the most comfortable listening position at a gig is a bar right at the back - bonus if it's in a different room altogether.

And I can still hear, and don't have tinnitus.
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I was amazed at the recent Snow Patrol concert when the security guys at the front of the stage were handing out earplugs, and people were actually using them.. at a concert... Now, I appreciate Snow Patrol may not be everyone's thing but if you've paid to see them then surely earplugs is a bit much?
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I was at that Police concert and to say that was disappointing is beyond words. Stewart Copeland was the only one who looked like he gave a damn. Both Sting and Andy Summers looked like guys in their late 50's relieved that the hellish tour was almost over.

The Police are one of all my all-time favourite groups so perhaps that was my feeling (and perhaps others at the Hallenstadion that evening). I guess alcohol would have helped me get into the spirit a bit more.
I dont know about that, though they are in their late 50s. Me & my gf danced it up good and proper. Right behind the camera guys in the middle. So although we couldn't really see much, we had some space to make our own. My gf kept getting told off for jumping up on the railings - she was so revved up. For us, it was about as big as it gets - never having seen The Police and in our mid 30s. This was music we had grown up to. As far as I could tell it was only us dancing plus some crazy guy who clearly looked like he had been to every Police concert ever and probably even lived in his own Police world in between. We danced non stop. But then we were feeding off each others energy. Maybe it was the beer. Great night for us though despite never really seeing the band. It was all about the music.
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Re: Zürich people attending a concert: What is wrng with these people?

Organisers are required to provide earplugs. As I have some experience with organising concerts I must say that 93 dBA isn't really that loud and 100 for which they most likely had a permission is bearable, too... but the limit is not always respected.

Some of the best Zurich concerts with lacking audience participation I've witnessed were in Moods.
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You know what? This simply reflects the Swiss mentality.
Observe the Swiss cows and you'll know what I mean.

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Like already said went to P.S.B concert last night at Härterei...

What is wrong with Zürich people attending a dance concert!!!?

Hey people you've come to a dance concert!!! So dance around!!! Don't just stare at the stage moving your head rythmically ( not always dare I say). Live a little!!!

Ok I might exaggerate a bit but that is the feeling someone may get who has gone to a good deal of concerts in Europe and now goes to concerts in Zürich...

I don't know how it is in the rest of switzerland but I dare say that whenever I've been to a concert in Zürich the crowd is pretty lame. 80% of the people don't move ( and yes they've come to a DANCE concert!!!) Ok they clap and make an effort to move and sing along but nothing close to people having fun at concerts like in the rest of europe (especially south europe.. yes I come from south europe )

Zurich people suck as concert crowd...and I DON'T take that back
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I dont know about that, though they are in their late 50s. Me & my gf danced it up good and proper. Right behind the camera guys in the middle. So although we couldn't really see much, we had some space to make our own. My gf kept getting told off for jumping up on the railings - she was so revved up. For us, it was about as big as it gets - never having seen The Police and in our mid 30s. This was music we had grown up to. As far as I could tell it was only us dancing plus some crazy guy who clearly looked like he had been to every Police concert ever and probably even lived in his own Police world in between. We danced non stop. But then we were feeding off each others energy. Maybe it was the beer. Great night for us though despite never really seeing the band. It was all about the music.
Actually when I spend 200+ Chuffs for a ticket I expect a little entertainment/crowd interaction/etc. to go along with the music. To chill out, go crazy and listen to just the music can be done in my living room. The band has a responsibility to create an atmosphere, expecially at those prices. The music was top notch, I'm not knocking that, just that the attitude of the Band created a crappy atmosphere for those of us who were watching

I am also in my mid-30's and say with hand on heart that The Police are one of my top 5 all-time favourites. Maybe that is what fueled the disappointment.
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Re: Zürich people attending a concert: What is wrng with these people?

I also have the same experience. Seen Kylie, Incognito, Alicia Keys... Hardly anybody was moving.

Went to Zurifest two summers ago. A festival that only happens every 3 years I am told. Nobody was dancing. There was a latino stage. Salsa! Only two old drunk ladies were dancing.

Went to Moods for a disco fashion night. Disco! alright! Arrived in my 70s outfit. I looked like a clown. I was the only one dressed up. The music started as some cheesy funk moved to some house for about 30min then TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO. Man why call it Disco. And again only a few people would dance. When I arrived to the UK 20 years ago it was a little the same in some clubs but then when everyone was rat-arsed then they would start moving. Here. No dance... We are Swiss. Does any one know if they also prefer tea to ...
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Re: Zürich people attending a concert: What is wrng with these people?

we went to see rocky horror at the theatre in zurich a few months ago, couldn't believe how dead the crowd was, baring in mind most people bought the audiance participation kit we could hear people moaning about being hit by water etc. audiance partcipation was a bit of a joke too!! the actors seemed to be getting quite hacked off waiting for retorts that never came!!
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Well, seeing the White Stripes at the Rote Fabrik was one of the best concerts in my life. Everyone bounced like there was no tomorrow.

Manu Chau the previous week was equally exhilarating.

Perhaps there's a crap atmosphere because you go to see Mom & Dad pop bands?

Didn't Madonna lambast the audience a few years back for being fReAkInBoRiNg?

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Well, seeing the White Stripes at the Rote Fabrik was one of the best concerts in my life. Everyone bounced like there was no tomorrow.
That was a classic. Nada Surf a few years ago at Abart was as mental as I've seen anywhere. Came out soaked in sweat.

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LOL, but very true. Once you get into the audience that buys 3 CDs per year and sees a gig every 3 years, it all gets a bit "stare to the front to get my value". Even better if there is a big video screen of the performance to watch. Happens everywhere though. Rock snob mode off
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Been to concerts at MJF, and much the same - the Swiss watching and swaying slightly, the expats jumping around like loons. All very strange. Saw Elton John in Vevey, and it was the same thing, though we did get told off at one point for talking by the guy in front........
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No, it's not the Moms & Dad's pop bands it's the crowds here - very different to elsewhere. Got taken to, or dragged to more like, Tom Jones show a few years back and the ex-pat crowd went wild - a group from Wales going mad, welsh flags n' lots of banter going on.. the crowd were great and the sour faces were the Swiss who wanted to sit down and listen, constantly complaining to our group who were dancing on the chairs - why have chairs anyway??

The two best concerts I've been to here were Marilyn Manson - great.. and Lou Reed *The Raven* concert with A. Hegarty - very appreciative audience even if Mr. Reed was a bit on the grumpy side that evening. The worst was Alanis Morrisette - really expensive tickets and she was dreadful so can't blame the crowd for that one.
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I don't know but it might be a safety requirement to hand ear plugs out here and up to the individual to decide whether to protect their hearing or not.

The father of a former work colleague was in a band from the mid 60s and also regularly attended rock concerts. He has partial hearing loss and mind-bending tinnitus now he is older.
I guess I'm old, too. I *always* wear earplugs at gigs, no matter how loud or soft they are or where I am in the room.

Normally I'm up front taking photos (which often means a head in a speaker...and that's usually during extreme metal gigs), but even if I'm in the back I wear my plugs.

Back when I was 18 or 19, Motorhead played a gig at an old theater in the town where I grew up - it ended up being in the Guinness book of world records as the unofficial loudest concert ever. The ceiling started to crumble and plaster was on everyone's shoulders. I stayed in the lobby of the theater, maybe lasted five or six songs and left - I could still hear it clear as day inside my car with the windows rolled up blocks away. I was deaf for a few days afterwards, all I could hear was ringing. I remember going to lectures at university and not hearing a thing.

My dad, who worked at an auto factory, brought me home earplugs after that, and I've worn them religiously ever since. I still have hearing trouble and can't make out what people say when there's loud backgruond noise.

Personally, I'm always grateful when the security guys have extra earplugs to hand out when I'm up front.
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