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I'm suffering badly from what I initially thought was a hangover, but on reading the post about pollen levels, I realise that I have been suffering with hay fever for the last few days. Can anyone recommend a brand of antihistimines that are not going to send me to sleep during client meetings ? I can usually nod-off for a couple of minutes during these, a full head-on-table event may be noticed...

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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

I use Cetrin 10 which is a generic brand, it contains exactly the same ingredients as some of the leading brands such as Zirtek but is a fraction of the price. It has never made me sleepy which I can't say of meetings .

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I use Cetrin 10 which is a generic brand, it contains exactly the same ingredients as some of the leading brands such as Zirtek but is a fraction of the price. It has never made me sleepy which I can't say of meetings .
The trick is to take it daily just before you go to sleep, no drowsiness the next day.

Use Beconase nose spray too whenever it gets really bad.
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistamines

Is fexofenadine (Allegra) available here? I find it as effective as Zyrtec, while being non-sedating.

Topical steroid sprays (Flonase, Beconase, etc.) help also, but you must use them every day, or you are wasting your money.
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistamines

Well for 30 years of trying I have still not managed to find anything that works for me. Most anti-Histamines I have tried in the UK over the years (and believe me I have tried a lot of different ones) leave me drowsy and /or give me a headache. Most of the tablets only give up to a maximum of 20% relief anyway. Doctors have prescribed stronger forms of tablets / nasal sprays and I have tried Nose plugs. I have had immunotherapy, laser treatment on my sinuses. The only thing I have not had is the injection.

For a number of years I used to find that I would end up with fluid on the lungs and very asthmatic symptoms. I would end up with the usual inhalers for that too. The only thing I have found that works for me at night is to wear a face dust mask. It reduces the amount of pollen that gets into my nose and at least allows me to sleep. It's not the most comfortable thing to do but at least I get a full nights sleep.

I know I am allergic to grass and tree pollens. In the UK my season used to run from the end of May to the end of June. Now here it appears to be end of April until - To be discovered.

In the end during the day I prefer to keep blowing my nose and resist rubbing my eyes. That reminds me I must see if Kleenex is public traded company and see if I can get some stock. Seems like I'm adding to their profits big time.
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

what are your symptoms of hay-fever? the classic rhinitis (runny nose, sneezing) itch red eyes, sore-throat?
The newer generation of anti-histamines are non-sedating an example would be claritine another one is zyrtec. Claritine pollen is actually available in the pharmacy without prescription. So you can give it a try. if you have problems with stuffy nose and the rest you can also get back to me...I know what would help...
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

xyzal is my weapon of choice.
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Maxilliary sinus pains, eye pain, headaches. I thought the photosensitivity was down to something else, but it seems not...
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what are your symptoms of hay-fever? the classic rhinitis (runny nose, sneezing) itch red eyes, sore-throat?
The newer generation of anti-histamines are non-sedating an example would be claritine another one is zyrtec. Claritine pollen is actually available in the pharmacy without prescription. So you can give it a try. if you have problems with stuffy nose and the rest you can also get back to me...I know what would help...
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

OK, which antihistamines make nicely drowsy. I can kill two birds with one stone. I suffer from hay fever and I can't sleep.
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OK, which antihistamines make nicely drowsy. I can kill two birds with one stone. I suffer from hay fever and I can't sleep.
Semprex might help. Might need a prescription tho'
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Semprex might help. Might need a prescription tho'
sorry to burst your bubbles guys but semprex is a non-sedating anti-histamine.....
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OK, which antihistamines make nicely drowsy. I can kill two birds with one stone. I suffer from hay fever and I can't sleep.
I have Cet eco made by ecosol 7.95 a box of 10..got em over the counter with no prescription.
I take them at night to help me sleep and stop hayfever.
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

you probably have sinusitis. If you don't have any heart problems. Get a decongestant and wash you nostrils with sterile saline solution 2X a day and the antihistamines if you have any allergic symptoms. If this measures doesn't work....you might need antibiotics....but I would leave the antibiotics out just yet.
Try the different brands of non-sedating anti-histamines ...if you want generics here are a list of brands:

Cerzin mepha or Certirizin Helvepharm( cetirizin) which is the same as zyrtec

Loratin 10 ( Loratadine ) which is claritine
Xyzal doesnt have a generic just yet
Aerius is new no generic.
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Thanks for the help guys.

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you probably have sinusitis. If you don't have any heart problems. Get a decongestant and wash you nostrils with sterile saline solution 2X a day and the antihistamines if you have any allergic symptoms. If this measures doesn't work....you might need antibiotics....but I would leave the antibiotics out just yet.
Try the different brands of non-sedating anti-histamines ...if you want generics here are a list of brands:

Cerzin mepha or Certirizin Helvepharm( cetirizin) which is the same as zyrtec

Loratin 10 ( Loratadine ) which is claritine
Xyzal doesnt have a generic just yet
Aerius is new no generic.
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Re: Hay Fever - Antihistermines

I used Telfast for several years now during the initial hay period. It makes the throat and mouth a bit dry, but it hasn't made me drowsy so far. It comes ion 60mg, 120mg and 180mg dosages. The recomemnded dosage is 120 mg per day, either as 1 60mg tab morning and evening, or just 1 120mg tab in the evening.

I would also suggest to try accupuncture. There is a doctor ein Konstanz, Germany, who apllies a kind of electro-accupuncture, which I found very helpful. After 1 session I didn't have to take the pills anymore for a few months. But he only treats aptients with strong symptoms, he said, because only then the additional irritation/stimulation by accupunture is most effective.
Maybe give it a try?

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I used Telfast for several years now during the initial hay period. It makes the throat and mouth a bit dry, but it hasn't made me drowsy so far. It comes ion 60mg, 120mg and 180mg dosages. The recomemnded dosage is 120 mg per day, either as 1 60mg tab morning and evening, or just 1 120mg tab in the evening.
I'm a notorious hayfever sufferer. I have tried all sorts of combinations and have found that Telfast 180mg every day in combination with Beconase nasal spray have been the most effective for me. No drowsiness, but the Beconase can dry out your nostrils and occasionally be a bit painful.

Actually, I've only been in Zurich for 5 days and my unaccompanied luggage arrived today. I'd packed a three month supply of Telfast and ripped open the box to pop one straight away. The pollen here is bad but so far I haven't found it to be as bad as in Melbourne, so hopefully no need for Beconase this season. If you do find that you become a regular/serious hayfever sufferer (it has been known to get worse over the years for some people) then I have found the best response is to start taking your antihistamines at the first sign of symptoms and keep taking them for the whole season to build them up in your system.

Anyway: this is what works for me (this is not professional medical advice!). Everyone is different and you're not likely to need the same heavy doses as I do. I have found every brand to be different though so if you find one doesn't work well, another might be better for you.

Uncle Max: I totally agree with you. If you've never had bad hayfever you've no idea how debilitating it can be. I've been a sufferer my whole life and on the bad days I might as well stay in bed for all the use I am to the world.
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Loratin 10 ( Loratadine ) which is claritine
Xyzal doesnt have a generic just yet
Aerius is new no generic.
This year is pretty heavy with pollen. I've tried so many different lotions and potions and find Aerius to be very effective at not making me drowsy, but it isn't as full-on as Zyrtec. Zyrtec takes away the pain - and I mean pain - but renders me useless. Perhaps I'm useless anyway, ho ho

If you're asthmatic, you may notice an increased heart rate and the shakes. Seek advice if you're on asthma medication.

Another tactic is to give yourself a 'bump'. Ahem. Various other methods include strong coffee, very cold peppermint syrup (see Migros), a shot of tequila or equivelent (seriously), and my favourite: a bowl of cold water in which to plunge your face.

Stay away from dairy stuff, depsite the temptation to eat yoghurt or ice-cream, as this increases the mucus in your system.

An annoying factor with hayfever is those who don't suffer don't understand how incredibly tedious and painful it can be. I'm a very non-aggressive sort, but when I'm on fire inside reacting to the pollen, I could walk through walls...
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Another tactic is to give yourself a 'bump'. Ahem. :
Is this available over the counter?

Seriously, hay fever hadn't bothered me at all while this thread started and I was feeling pretty smug about living on a mountain with clean air (normally get it for a week or so each spring in the UK) up until about 3 weeks ago when we had a mini heatwave and all the farmers started mowing hay. I got it really bad, went back to the UK last week and it cleared up but I stocked up on my Boots antihistamines and thought I'd be OK on my return.

What's really annoyed me today is that the last 3 days we've had almost constant rain and even a little snow last night and I woke this morning with hay-fever symptons. Is everyone else clear? If so, it must be something else (eg we got a delivery of new kittens 3 weeks ago, cat's have never given me problems before though)

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Im was taking a generic from Sandoz have switched to Cetallerg though.
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I find Piriteze (one a day tablets) best and order them from………. http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/
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