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I find it bit weird too, i wouldn't mind a beggar looking like a beggar, but once in front of the main UBS in Geneva, i were approached by a guy wearing a a decent suite and an Omega watch who i thought in the beginning some sort of a banker, till he asked me for money which i automatically gave (10 CHF) out of my shock factor
If I am not mistaken that is a famous and internationally acclaimed way of scamming people. Sometimes it's a single criminal, sometimes a group working together. Basically you have a decently dressed person who doesn't usually seem a beggar asking you for 5-20 bucks and the reason you give it to them is precisely because you think that this person is not a beggar and unless he or she was in a really desperate situation they wouldn't ask you. I got asked by someone once if I could lend them 20 bucks. He said that his wallet and ID cards were stolen and he was only a tourist. He was waiting for a wire transfer from his family. In the meantime he was really tired and wanted to go to a homeless shelter that was charging 20 a night and that was closing registration for the night at 6 pm. Naturally I believed him and promptly gave him the 20.

If you do the math. This scam can make a lot of profit. For instance 10 victims a day for 20 will give them 200. If they are a group, then this profit will multiply of course.

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When I was in Basel, I saw this gorgeous, tall, blonde Icelandic woman striding confidently through the streets.

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Old 07.12.2009, 14:14
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When I was in Basel, I saw this gorgeous, tall, blonde Icelandic woman striding confidently through the streets.

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Yeah, I was waiting for this...

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When I was studying in Bern, I was approached by a young, well-dresed English-Asian guy who explained he'd had a fight with his brother, had been locked out and neede the fare back to Zürich. I said I was really sorry, but didn't have any cash on me and moved along.

Next week, I saw the same guy using exactly the same story on someone else.

Shurely shome mishtake?
I have heard one similar at a train station in Vienna. It was a guy who said he just broke up with his girlfriend and needed money to get back to his hometown. Saw him near the same place doing the same thing the next weekend.

An even more classic one is, my car ran out of gas and I don't have any money and I need some to just to fill my tank to get back home. Saw the same person doing this on at least 4 different occasions.
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Old 07.12.2009, 14:47
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In Peru there are mafias that rent babies for beggars...unbelievable.
ahem ... got to Hyde Park in London of an early morning ... rent-a-baby that is then fed with cough mixture before a gypsy/Roma/Albanian away day on the Underground ....
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ahem ... got to Hyde Park in London of an early morning ... rent-a-baby that is then fed with cough mixture before a gypsy/Roma/Albanian away day on the Underground ....
Yeah, they do this in Prague, too, there has been a scandal involving sedated kids beggars use there..
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Re: Beggars on the streets

What is your price? Unless I am fairly confident it's a scam, I give what I think is my share. In Detroit, there are loads of people running scams, but most the time there isn't much R&D put into them, and then you are giving based on the comedy of the situation.
I don't know why people beg overall. But it is quite clear in Detroit it's for booze or crack. I don't know if across the states or in the UK you call it the same, but we call it Anti-freeze. As even though alcohol has a drying effect, which can kill you faster in the cold, it also has that warming effect. Which'll help you out night after night on the streets, on the very very cold streets. This will more then likely make an alcoholic out of anyone with a bullet.
What do you do? Do you give a dollar and hope he doesn't get high on it? Is it even your business? If a fellow human being asks for help, do you help him/her no questions asked? I do. Sometimes I will bring a sandwich, a baguette, gas, even a beer. Most the time it's the change in my pocket. When beggars put their kids on the street to make me feel guilty, I am disgusted instead, and give them nothing.
There was a guy, who later wrote an article/book about it in DC, a few years back, that bought an Armani suit, and worked the surbaban rail system for 1 year. He made something like 300,000 dollars, and said the same thing each time. He lost his wallet, and needed fair to get back home. People wanted to help him because he looked like an honest guy. Even though he worked the same rail system for a whole year, he never came across the same people. Apparently the guy was not even a con artist, he was doing an experiment on how people's perceptions differ on what they are wearing.
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Old 07.12.2009, 17:02
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Re: Beggars on the streets

I wouldnt mind making 300k and calling it "research"
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I’m not a prostitute!!
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There was a guy, who later wrote an article/book about it in DC, a few years back, that bought an Armani suit, and worked the surbaban rail system for 1 year. He made something like 300,000 dollars, and said the same thing each time. He lost his wallet, and needed fair to get back home. People wanted to help him because he looked like an honest guy. Even though he worked the same rail system for a whole year, he never came across the same people. Apparently the guy was not even a con artist, he was doing an experiment on how people's perceptions differ on what they are wearing.

Congratulations DC dude, humans are visual beings, judgemental and shallow. You've earned you 300k!
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"I’m not a prostitute!! "
Donations then?
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I used to often give them food or take them in the shop to buy some food if they were begging outside of one in the States, so they didn't spend the cash on booze.
When I was was a student, many years ago, a beggar asked me for some cash. I was on the way back from a food shop, so I said sorry and that I couldn't really afford any cash, but would he like a doughnut instead.

"Nah thanks, bit high in fat for me"
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When I was was a student, many years ago, a beggar asked me for some cash. I was on the way back from a food shop, so I said sorry and that I couldn't really afford any cash, but would he like a doughnut instead.

"Nah thanks, bit high in fat for me"
Do you still have it? Is it still going spare?
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When I was was a student, many years ago, a beggar asked me for some cash. I was on the way back from a food shop, so I said sorry and that I couldn't really afford any cash, but would he like a doughnut instead.

"Nah thanks, bit high in fat for me"
LOL, well at least he had his priorities straight
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Re: Beggars on the streets

Here in Germany, some beggars "settled" down close to the supermarkets and ask the people for money. I usually don´t give my money away, but when I have to do some food shopping, I always buy a few apples or other fruits for them and give it away. Since then, one of them greets me with a huge smile and waves everytime he sees me. Another guy became almost angry as I offered him some fruits and said that he wants money. Well, no, bad luck for him, I don´t pay the drugs or alcohol.
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Re: Beggars on the streets

Once I was parking at a motorway cafe/petrol station when a "well dressed" guy stood waiting for me to park, an attempt at intimidation I suspect, and promptly proceeded to ask for money for his friend who had miscalculated the cost of the petrol for her trip. His friend being a glamourous long haired blonde with shades and convertable sports car to match,.(Swiss reg.). I was really annoyed by the absurdity and suggested she tried her credit cards first.
He then looked all hurt and appalled to finish his performance!
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Here in Germany, some beggars "settled" down close to the supermarkets and ask the people for money. I usually don´t give my money away, but when I have to do some food shopping, I always buy a few apples or other fruits for them and give it away. Since then, one of them greets me with a huge smile and waves everytime he sees me. Another guy became almost angry as I offered him some fruits and said that he wants money. Well, no, bad luck for him, I don´t pay the drugs or alcohol.
When I lived in the Netherlands you would see some homeless people selling a magazine called 'straat' that is given to them by an association (dont know the name)so you know whoever is asking for money is truly in need. I used to give them my spare change but mostly buy them bread and cheese or some ham, they were always nice and would greet me happily. I think they have something similar here???
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When I lived in the Netherlands you would see some homeless people selling a magazine called 'straat' that is given to them by an association (dont know the name)so you know whoever is asking for money is truly in need. I used to give them my spare change but mostly buy them bread and cheese or some ham, they were always nice and would greet me happily. I think they have something similar here???
You´re right, the magazine in Germany is called "Obdachlosen-Zeitung" (homeless-magazine) and you could see some people selling them in the city centre of Essen as well. But I must confess that it became a sort of principle that I don´t give my money away but I´m always willing to share my food.
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When I lived in the Netherlands you would see some homeless people selling a magazine called 'straat' that is given to them by an association (dont know the name)so you know whoever is asking for money is truly in need. I used to give them my spare change but mostly buy them bread and cheese or some ham, they were always nice and would greet me happily. I think they have something similar here???
Here they sell "Surprise" which is a similar concept (and in the UK there is "Big Issue").
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Here they sell "Surprise" which is a similar concept (and in the UK there is "Big Issue").
THanks, hubby had just informed me , do you know who gives it to them?

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