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Old 12.04.2010, 15:32
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Re: YES its enough!!!

Some people just believe in this crazy thing called entitlement. Numbers aside, go to the US and Canada, and see the demanded standard of living....much higher than they ever could afford. It all comes down to how you live your life. I make small fraction of that average, I live very happily, have everything I need and want and I don't know what to do with more than half of my income.
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:34
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Some people just believe in this crazy thing called entitlement. Numbers aside, go to the US and Canada, and see the demanded standard of living....much higher than they ever could afford. It all comes down to how you live your life. I make small fraction of that average, I live very happily, have everything I need and want and I don't know what to do with more than half of my income.
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:45
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...There is a search button. Use it! Will save you getting some red blobs for your stupid, pointless, repetitive questions
or you can simply ignore those threads...
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:52
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I miss the: "how is live with a 120`000.- p.a. income? "thread.
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:56
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I really don't understand how anybody can live under 199'999 Chuffs a year, even in Schwamendingen. You guys must be doing something wrong.
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:57
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I miss the: "how is live with a 120`000.- p.a. income? "thread.
Get with the times dude. We're up to 200K as acceptable minimum now.
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:58
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I thought everyone here makes the minimum amount of 500k/month which allows for a semi-decent life ?









just kidding of course
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Old 12.04.2010, 15:59
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We're up to 200K as acceptable minimum now.
Effing inflation.
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Old 13.04.2010, 09:59
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Re: YES its enough!!!

I'm currently on 0CHF/yr (which works out to about 0CHF/month give or take). What I want to know is, will I end up falling into the lower tax bracket? What kind of percentage will my marginal tax rate be?

I'm also looking for places to live, and was wondering - what kind of surroundings can I get on my salary? What proportion of my monthly take home is it reasonable to spend on rent? Or could I secure a mortgage given my financial situation?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:01
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I'm currently on 0CHF/yr (which works out to about 0CHF/month give or take). What I want to know is, will I end up falling into the lower tax bracket? What kind of percentage will my marginal tax rate be?

I'm also looking for places to live, and was wondering - what kind of surroundings can I get on my salary? What proportion of my monthly take home is it reasonable to spend on rent? Or could I secure a mortgage given my financial situation?

Thanks in advance for your help.
I'm sure you can find a decent cardboard box within your budget... and the advantage that if you don't like the neighbours, you can rolocate without problems
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:16
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I'm sure you can find a decent cardboard box within your budget... and the advantage that if you don't like the neighbours, you can rolocate without problems
I think a good spot would be near Walter's cooking school and / or home...


Well, perhaps not on days he's trying a new "experimental" recipe...
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:17
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I'm sure you can find a decent cardboard box within your budget... and the advantage that if you don't like the neighbours, you can rolocate without problems

There are some decent cardboard boxes around for sure.

Your financial issues are going to arise when it comes to ahem WC facilities.
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:30
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some info i found.
I'm not sure where this is from but I am at a loss as to why people who do this stuff think that there is a need to put qualification level. In IT at least a doctorate or a masters or a degree or any of that stuff really dont count as much as work experience and equating the salary to the educational level is a completely false linking field - it should perhaps be average salary by years experience.
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:32
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There are some decent cardboard boxes around for sure.

Your financial issues are going to arise when it comes to ahem WC facilities.
No problems there, you can simply do as Swiss prostitutes do and poop in peoples front gardens. There is a thread about it somewhere. Just dress a little slutty and it's all good!
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:37
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Please tell me you are not getting your nickers in a twist about this thread: Best place to live in Switz. on 200K a year?

Clearly a wind-up/humour(less) thread...
Suppose a person writes their own software that is in demand and they work from home. They have maybe put in thousands of hours of their own work into this software without receiving any rewards to date. It may require further development and since they are not working for a specific company then working from home and choosing where your home will be is in order. And you can hardly blame a person from trying to save on tax since their income may not last long. If they "have a good year" then that may be the only good year they ever get with their software and yet they will be taxed on it as though it is their regular income which it is not. And 200k in a year or higher is not excessive considering the effort they have made and the investment of time they have put into it to create something that is potentially very valuable. And it is good that people can do this and be properly rewarded otherwise such inventions to better the human condition might never be made. I know that most people never think to do anything entrepreneurial and are happy to have their entire working life set out for them but please bear in mind that there are a few creative people out there who want to achieve higher things. And for them, 200K in a year as reward for a high risk venture is hardly a lot of money.

(if this has left you weeping then please consider making yourself feel better by mailing me a small (though not < 500CHF) monetary contribution. Cheers)
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Old 13.04.2010, 10:47
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I think it depends on how you live.
fixt, for the people doing the asking
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Old 13.04.2010, 11:11
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Suppose a person writes their own software <snip> blah blah <snip>And for them, 200K in a year as reward for a high risk venture is hardly a lot of money.
RolandRB - I don't have a problem with people earning more/less than me. I earn enough to have the lifestyle I want, so please do not think I was passing comment on your anticipated/hoped for/expected earnings. If you do earn what you think you are worth, then genuinely, good for you.

The tone of your posts (in the other thread) was similar to that of Trolls that I have seen, in that they ask a bunch of questions that build on each successive post and seem to be more inflammatory than the previous one (after everyone has had a moan).

To my mind the OP of this post was upset/fed up with your thread (and other similar ones it has to be said), so I was just writing my opinion re not getting riled about it.
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Old 13.04.2010, 11:18
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I'm not sure where this is from but I am at a loss as to why people who do this stuff think that there is a need to put qualification level. In IT at least a doctorate or a masters or a degree or any of that stuff really dont count as much as work experience and equating the salary to the educational level is a completely false linking field - it should perhaps be average salary by years experience.

Usually I find such comparisons are put together for youth, (and those in training) who are question whether they should persue higher education or not.

Year experience does give quite an edge, but a lot of the time these studies are put together for those who have decided the factory income at age 16 is more than enough to bother finishing highschool etc. etc.
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Old 13.04.2010, 11:23
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I'm not sure where this is from but I am at a loss as to why people who do this stuff think that there is a need to put qualification level. In IT at least a doctorate or a masters or a degree or any of that stuff really dont count as much as work experience and equating the salary to the educational level is a completely false linking field - it should perhaps be average salary by years experience.
Can't talk about IT specifically, but in other areas I have experienced/seen the level of education is really important in Germanic parts of Europe. Actually now that I write that I would include most of Northern Europe (although don't know about Nordic countries) in that bracket.

If you look at the university set-up it is geared towards longer more in-depth studies so continental Europe focus on the qualifications come job application time.

This is very much unlike the UK where you usually have 3 + 3 years for Bachelors/PhD studies and then head off to get a job and experience.
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Well, perhaps not on days he's trying a new "experimental" recipe...
Ahem... excuse me?

My "experimental" recipes are quite good I'll have you know, thank you very much (even though I spent half of the morning battling with some "eggs florentine" ravioli... can't get the consistency right and i'm on my second carton of eggs )
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