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Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

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I've been living in Basel for 9 months now and i really have to say that i'm fed up with these type of food that i find in Migros and Coop. Is there any supermarket like Marks&Spencer or Waitrose, where the food is of good quality and also lots of varieties to choose from?
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

Get thee to St Louis. The Geant supermarket (no wait, Hyper-market) has that which you seek. 14 varieties of canned carrots, check. 1874 varieties of yogurt, check.

Is your quest for things meaty and milk-based? Cross over into the land of Germany, where the Marktkauf in Weil am Rhein awaits you with mind-expanding amounts of meat products.

Does your shopping basket tremble at the mention of fresh local produce? Does your pocketbook sigh amorously when confronted by reasonable prices reckoned out by old farmers' sunburnt hands? Saint Louis again, the Farmer's Market at Place de l'Europe, Saturday mornings only until 12.

Too lazy to haul your bounty back from the far-off lands that are maximally 15 minutes away by bike? Alima Supermarket on Breisacherstrasse, the Turkish supermarket to the Turks, has piled high their unbelievably cheap veg for your convenience.
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I've been living in Basel for 9 months now and i really have to say that i'm fed up with these type of food that i find in Migros and Coop. Is there any supermarket like Marks&Spencer or Waitrose, where the food is of good quality and also lots of varieties to choose from?
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I've been living in Basel for 9 months now and i really have to say that i'm fed up with these type of food that i find in Migros and Coop. Is there any supermarket like Marks&Spencer or Waitrose, where the food is of good quality and also lots of varieties to choose from?
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I've never been to M&S or Waitrose but have seen the adverts on TV so can imagine what you mean, I think...

Sometimes for "better" selection all you need to find is a larger Coop or Migros (Migros Paradise really does have a good selection).

Meanwhile, perhaps I am mistaking what those chains are you refer to and what you really need is a Manor or Globus - both are a bit more "high end" with some really fantastic product on offer.


As for myself, I tend to shop at a few different stores as I have 3 Coop, 2 Migros and a "large" Denner as well as an Asian market or two all within walking distance... if one store doesn't have what I'm looking for (or a suitable substitution), usually one of the others does.

Good luck and happy shopping!
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

There is a marktkauf in weil am rhein, there is a bigger carrefour just over the border in alsace, if you got the budget there is globus. And if you cant find anything good, there are quite many different ethnic shops around
+ first, try a bigger coop/migros, they cant be that bad.
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

It probably depends exactly which Coop or Waitrose you're talking about.

I used to go to the Waitrose in Canary Wharf and that was pretty good. Now I go to the Coop in Sihl City. For me, those supermarkets are pretty much equivalent.
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It probably depends exactly which Coop or Waitrose you're talking about.

I used to go to the Waitrose in Canary Wharf and that was pretty good. Now I go to the Coop in Sihl City. For me, those supermarkets are pretty much equivalent.
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

I also used to go to the Waitrose in Canary Wharf...and the Krispy Kreme and Square Pie Shop

I find Migros and Coop foods start to all taste the same after a few years here.
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It probably depends exactly which Coop or Waitrose you're talking about.

I used to go to the Waitrose in Canary Wharf and that was pretty good. Now I go to the Coop in Sihl City. For me, those supermarkets are pretty much equivalent.
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

have you been to Globus? they sell salt and vinegar crisps!!

http://www.globus.ch/de/delicatessa/aktuell/index.html
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Get thee to St Louis. The Geant supermarket (no wait, Hyper-market) has that which you seek. 14 varieties of canned carrots, check. 1874 varieties of yogurt, check.

Is your quest for things meaty and milk-based? Cross over into the land of Germany, where the Marktkauf in Weil am Rhein awaits you with mind-expanding amounts of meat products.

Does your shopping basket tremble at the mention of fresh local produce? Does your pocketbook sigh amorously when confronted by reasonable prices reckoned out by old farmers' sunburnt hands? Saint Louis again, the Farmer's Market at Place de l'Europe, Saturday mornings only until 12.

Too lazy to haul your bounty back from the far-off lands that are maximally 15 minutes away by bike? Alima Supermarket on Breisacherstrasse, the Turkish supermarket to the Turks, has piled high their unbelievably cheap veg for your convenience.
Exactly, couldn't have put it better myself. Except maybe to add that Hieber's (deeper into Germany -- there's a selection of locations) offers the nearest experience to the glorious Waitrose experience that you seek, but it's pricier than Marktkauf. However, it's still less expensive than Cogros (since the Swiss offerings are nearly indistinguishable), and the range, quality and overall shopping experience are all excellent.

Be warned, Marktkauf is an absolute zoo on Saturday mornings.

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... there is a bigger carrefour just over the border in alsace ...
Just over the border, 30 minutes drive to Mulhouse. Which is indeed in Alsace. The Casino Geant hypermarket that 10:30 refers to is in fact just over the border, in St Louis (accessible from Basel by tram and bus).

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+ first, try a bigger coop/migros, they cant be that bad.
Yeah, they can. Just wider aisles with more of the same limited range -- 40 cans of some weird brand of baked beans (and no other brand) instead of 10 cans.
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Yeah, they can. Just wider aisles with more of the same limited range -- 40 cans of some weird brand of baked beans (and no other brand) instead of 10 cans.
Wail on Sistah~! Wail on!

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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

Luckily, Basel is near France and Germany. It's amazing when an old fashioned place like Geant in St Louis (which appears to be a poor imitation of Auchan or any of the other hypermarkets) looks like an oasis of luxury after a few weeks in Migros and Coop.

I second, or third, the farmer's market in St Louis. Introduced to it by 10:30 I was there again two days ago and stocked up with tasty things. If you thik it's expensive (it is), mentally convert everything into Swiss Franks and then it'll appear reasonable.

Marktkauf is a more boring walk from the "just by the border" tram stop than St Louis but is worth the trip. I didn't find it too busy last time I went there Saturday early evening. Once I get my bike (I know I've been saying that for a while, but I'm being thwarted at every step somehow) then I'll probably do all my food shopping out of Switzerland.

Finally, there's a decent Asian supermarket in Klein Basel (New Asia Market), and a slightly more expensive one next to SBB.
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Wail on Sistah~! Wail on!

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Ah'm done wailin'. Ah've seen the LIGHT an' ah don't shop nowhere in Swissland no more, nuh-uh!


At the risk of repeating the content of about a dozen other easily-searchable threads on this subject, I'll just point out (again) that VAT is 100% refundable on food purchases made in France or Germany and exported to Switzerland, subject to certain limitations. The most onerous of these are:
  • Daily tax-free purchase limit of CHF 300.- (approximately EUR 200.-) per person, per day (so shop with a friend, or babysit your neighbour's children while you shop). If you've spent more than your purchase limit, you may be asked to pay Swiss VAT (which, on food, is very low) on the excess.
  • Fairly restrictive limits on the amount of beef and other meats per person per day (and sometimes the friendly folk at the Zoll do check, by examining your till receipt, so hiding the steaks under the feminine hygiene products doesn't work. Apparently.)
  • A minimum purchase requirement of EUR 175.- (in France) in order to qualify for VAT refund. This does not apply in Germany, where any food purchase is eligible for refund of VAT. I say "food purchase" because some bizarre categories of products are not eligible for VAT refund -- car accessories, for example.
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Re: Fed up with Migros and Coop food!

If you want Waitrose/Marks for their better quality, albeit at higher prices then you could also try the food sections of Manor and Globus.

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40 cans of some weird brand of baked beans (and no other brand)
There's nowt wrong with Heinz beans. What would you prefer?
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There's nowt wrong with Heinz beans. What would you prefer?
Precisely, I'd prefer Heinz. Not the strange brand I'd never heard of before I visited my local Cogros.
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Precisely, I'd prefer Heinz. Not the strange brand I'd never heard of before I visited my local Cogros.
Coop stock Heinz (definitely the one at Mulhauserstrasse does, so I'd guess a few of the others do too).

Check with the tinned veggies, or make an occasional trip to one of the other stores to stock up.

They're not cheap though. I think they're about 2 - 2.50 CHF.

They sell Heinz tomato soup too.
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Coop stock Heinz (definitely the one at Mulhauserstrasse does, so I'd guess a few of the others do too).

Check with the tinned veggies, or make an occasional trip to one of the other stores to stock up.

They're not cheap though. I think they're about 2 - 2.50 CHF.

They sell Heinz tomato soup too.
I'll never know. I've sold out and only shop across the border now. There go my dreams of Swiss citizenship, I guess.
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I've been living in Basel for 9 months now and i really have to say that i'm fed up with these type of food that i find in Migros and Coop. Is there any supermarket like Marks&Spencer or Waitrose, where the food is of good quality and also lots of varieties to choose from?
Thank you!
It depends what kinds of foods you are looking for - and if you think Migros et al have a narrow selection now, I can tell you it was a lot worse when we first arrived 9 years ago!

The replies above are pretty helpful. I would add that we do a lot of our fruit and veg shopping at Marktplatz on Saturdays - yes it is more expensive than Migros but there are bargains to be had if you choose what is local and in season.

There is very often a Frenchman selling fresh goats cheeses at the end of Marktplatz furthest from Globus. Also, next to him is a cheese stand that does great Luzerner Mountain Cheese. A little along from that is a stand run by folks from Alsace that sells good - and reasonably priced - seasonal vegetables. We have also found a German stand selling apples and pears in the autumn / winter and strawberries and soft fruits in summer. They had 3-4 different varieties of strawberries last year with different tastes and character (how many varieties of strawberry does the average Waitrose sell). Off Marktplatz (I think Sattelgasse) is a great little independent butcher - a little pricey but the meat will not shrink to half its size in the pan.

If you take hikes out in the countryside, many farms will be selling produce like fruit, veg, eggs - fruit is so much nicer when ripened on the tree.

The monolithic one-stop supermarket like you have in France or the UK has yet to happen in Switzerland - though given the decline of city centres in the UK in favour of out-of-town complexes perhaps this is no bad thing (dons asbestos suit).

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There's plenty of variety. I mean look at the peanut butter. There's smooth and chunky.

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have you been to Globus? they sell salt and vinegar crisps!!
They do in Coop as well now.

When we came here 8 years ago, we found the range of food with CH borders to be restrictive. But in the last few years, it has improved dramatically. However, we still do a lot of cross border shopping, because there's five of us, and we save a huge amount of money.

Interesting that certain items are exempt from recouping the VAT in Germany. I've had the VAT back for spectacles, home improvement stuff, furniture.
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I have to agree about cross border shopping. We now go to Geant in Anemasse and our food bill has dropped by half
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