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Old 18.10.2010, 18:34
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And what about the locals ? I'm sure that, if you put some efforts to it, you could find some friends among them.
Why bother, if you have such a valid source of information...

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I spoke to a German colleague today who has been to CH for a few weeks (on a short assignment, he will move back soon).
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Why bother, if you have such a valid source of information...

well friendship has another meaning than source of information......

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Old 18.10.2010, 19:05
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well friendship has another meaning than source of information......
Errr... either you didn't understand my (ironic) post or I don't see the irony in your post. Methinks we actually agree.

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Old 18.10.2010, 20:29
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Why bother, if you have such a valid source of information...
well - I wouldn't call this a source of information. It's just a single observation that gives some indication of the first impression CH can make on a foreigner....
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Old 18.10.2010, 20:54
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well - I wouldn't call this a source of information. It's just a single observation that gives some indication of the first impression CH can make on a foreigner....
Yet this "non-source" leads you to a rather harsh conclusion....

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So - yes, it is rather boring and lonely unless you make many expat friends.
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Old 18.10.2010, 20:56
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Yet this "non-source" leads you to a rather harsh conclusion....
well... let's say I enriched it with my own experience from 10 years in CH
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Old 18.10.2010, 21:01
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Errr... either you didn't understand my (ironic) post
Yep, I have some difficulties to understand irony in a foreign language..

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I spoke to a German colleague today who has been to CH for a few weeks (on a short assignment, he will move back soon). He noticed that - when speaking to people here about life in CH - one of the first things that always comes up is high salaries and low taxes (even from locals). His impression was that most people only stay because of the money, but actually are quite miserable otherwise. Made me think, because I fear he's right.....

So - yes, it is rather boring and lonely unless you make many expat friends.
I study medicine in CH, and think for the future about working in CH while staying for the week-ends in Berlin, or simply work in Berlin. I noticed that some views I hear from locals in CH have more or less disappeared from e.g. France or Germany (at least the capital cities). For example, some swiss seem to mix up the concepts of race and culture. E.g. I say this or that country has a beautiful culture, and the reply is, "yes, what a beautiful race". So, for me, among other interesting characteristics in CH compared to the EU, are high income and time travel (many new cultural ideas are introduced only once all other western european countries have integrated and tested them e.g. women vote, parental leave). Maybe to be considered neutral, a country can't side with this or that cultural/political choice or innovation before every last country has done so. But for technical innovation, CH was recently ranked on top for europe.
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Re: Is Switzerland really that boring?

We have had better luck getting friendly looks with a cute dog in a restaurant, than with well-behaved children.
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Re: Is Switzerland really that boring?

Switzerland, like in all other facets in life, is what you make of it. It is going to be 10:00 at 10:00 tonight no matter what your outlook and mood was for the day, so you might as well have enjoyed it.
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In my opinion, if one is not able to make friends, he should blame it on himself. I mean, everyone can make friends if they smile and spend some effort to be social, independent of the country, right?

... especially if you have been in CH for some time and would like to share your experience.
If you haven't lived here, then you have NO place blaming us on the difficulty making friends.

I have 10 years of Switzerland under my belt and speak the native language (Swiss German) fluently, so no language barriers, and I can still count the number of Swiss acquaintances I have one one hand. The number of Swiss friends (i.e. Swiss with no foreign background) I have remains zero.

I met more people on a 3 day trip to Italy than I did in 3 months in Switzerland. Not exaggerating.

Switzerland has many things, but friendly people is not one of them. Polite? Yes. Friendly? No.
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Get yourself a cute dog. Since mine arrived everyone wants to say hello and pat the dog. Gone are the stares and have been replaced by smiles

Am also finding it far from being boring so far, maybe after a little while my views will change but after Street Parade and the after do Energy I am certainly not bored.......just tired! Was great seeing the kids faces at some of the 'sights' as well.
So true ! Since I have a dog, I have finally meant some lovely swiss locals and with time they do warm up and it has been a great experience!
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I just wish there were more places to take toddlers to on rainy days in downtown Zurich....
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Swiss people friends are like Dodge Chargers - hard to find, hard to make them stick around.
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Swiss people friends are like Dodge Chargers - hard to find, hard to make them stick around.
Tell me about yourself , and I tell you why
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Sure. Be prepared to bring a young priest and an old priest.
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Is Switzerland really that boring?

No, we're just kidding lol
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Re: Is Switzerland really that boring?

I heard a saying once it went like this
the americans are peaches soft on the outside with a small inner core - So pretty much they are very friendly people who welcome everyone into their home and make friends with everyone but they have a small core which consists of family and very close friend
The brits are pineapples pretty much the same as the americans but at first can be slightly prickly otherwise the same
The swiss are cocoanuts we have a very hard outer shell, hence why the swiss can often seem as rude and boring to others the swiss dont like new things this includes new people and we take time to get to now people, but once a swiss person says you are a friend then you are a friend for life and a close friend thus the swiss have a wider network of friends.
So especiall for those new to switzerland if a swiss person seems rude to you he just doesn;t know you yet and doesn;t want to know you yet. dont be pushy and bid your time and he will eventually invite you to your house.
Remeber being invited to a swiss persons house is a very big honour
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I heard a saying once it went like this
the americans are peaches soft on the outside with a small inner core - So pretty much they are very friendly people who welcome everyone into their home and make friends with everyone but they have a small core which consists of family and very close friend
The brits are pineapples pretty much the same as the americans but at first can be slightly prickly otherwise the same
The swiss are cocoanuts we have a very hard outer shell, hence why the swiss can often seem as rude and boring to others the swiss dont like new things this includes new people and we take time to get to now people, but once a swiss person says you are a friend then you are a friend for life and a close friend thus the swiss have a wider network of friends.
This is something of a cliché since, having lived in parts of the EU where talking at all is considered a social problem, the swiss seem ebullient by comparison and easy to make friends with.

The difference is that Americans like to be social, like to be sociable, which is NOT the same as making friends which many european cultures take to mean that we're a bunch of shallow idiots but.....I have to say that in a world where the density of people is so great I'd prefer the people who like to make small talk as opposed to not talking to me and knowing the contents of my rubbish.

It's all about what you consider important to you. If you make a real friend of a yankee, and I've known a few, you'll have a friend for life as well. Again, it all boils down to values and approach.
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