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Old 09.10.2010, 05:41
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No, there was no misunderstanding, the agent said she could only travel to Germany, and said she could not go to Paris, but of course he gave no explanation why. I know he was totally wrong, but they would never admit it.

Oh, I see, you were right there and heard the whole conversation then?


Given YOUR attitude now, perhaps SHE received a rough time if you WERE there with her...
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Old 09.10.2010, 09:36
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Re: Travelling from the USA

...she didn't happen to be wearing a burqua maybe?
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Old 21.12.2010, 13:46
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Re: Travelling from the USA

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No, no... she's in Switzerland now: they let her in, but they told her that the only place she can visit during her stay is Germany, thus buggering up her plans on visiting Paris. Which is nonsense, of course, as the OP, and everyone else, knows.

What the OP wants to know is why the border guard is such a jerk.

I'd say that the answer is somewhere in the question...
Sorry for the late reply. Paris, was of course just one city to visit, as was Germany and some other European cities. As other posters commented, the border guard was not aware of the conditions that US citizens can travel under throughout Europe.
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...she didn't happen to be wearing a burqua maybe?
No, she wasn't. Would that have made a difference?
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Oh, I see, you were right there and heard the whole conversation then?


Given YOUR attitude now, perhaps SHE received a rough time if you WERE there with her...
No my wife was, and that was the conversation. I have come to accept the fact that the border guard was wrong.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:03
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Re: Travelling from the USA

So...this doesn't have anything to do with travelling FROM the USA. She could easily have been travelling from, say, East Mubumboland and had the same problem.....
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:06
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Not semantics. Racism is a horrible thing - prejudging someone on the color of their skin...misuse of the term is equally bad as it dilutes the meaning of racism.
The UN makes no distinction between racial and ethnicity discrimination.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:12
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The UN makes no distinction between racial and ethnicity discrimination.
Dictionaries do.
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My mother-in-law flew in from the States on a US passport.
Border control in Switzerland, said she is only able to travel to Germany, if she wants to leave Switzerland, during her stay here. Does that make sense?
She had a US passport ,but she is Cuban , perhaps?
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Dictionaries do.
And so? It's ok to discriminate against someone who is American, Swiss, French or whatever, as long as it's not based on their race?
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:31
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She had a US passport ,but she is Cuban , perhaps?
No , not Cuban ,naturalized American citizen.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:32
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And so? It's ok to discriminate against someone who is American, Swiss, French or whatever, as long as it's not based on their race?
So it means that discrimination based on national origin isn't racism - it is discrimination based on national origin.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:35
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So it means that discrimination based on national origin isn't racism - it is discrimination based on national origin.
Still just as painful and hurtful.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:41
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Still just as painful and hurtful.
Never said it wasn't (and it must have been a nasty experience)...but it isn't racism.
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:43
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No , not Cuban ,naturalized American citizen.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1191626AA72gsf

Maybe here lies the answer!
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Old 21.12.2010, 14:46
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Sorry for the late reply. Paris, was of course just one city to visit, as was Germany and some other European cities. As other posters commented, the border guard was not aware of the conditions that US citizens can travel under throughout Europe.
Are you honestly still complaining that your M-I-L was given some incorrect information by a border guard over two months ago?

Let it go man. It's christmas out there...
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Old 21.12.2010, 16:36
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No she's not a refugee. lol
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Never said it wasn't (and it must have been a nasty experience)...but it isn't racism.
She's not white btw, well not totally. So if she was black (she's not) and American, it might be called racism or a bit of both racism and ethnicity discrimination?
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Eh, racism? Since when is American a different race?
Perhaps the OP really meant "racial discrimination", which - according to the UN definition (and I can't be fagged to post a link) is:

Definition-Summary ....any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect to nullify or to impair the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life....

Of course such a definition hinges on whether or not America is really a proper "nation"

Nothing to do with the original post but what the heck - it's nearly Christmas. By the way Rivington Pike is nice at this time of year.

Erm...I'll get my coat.

Cheers,
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Perhaps the OP really meant "racial discrimination", which - according to the UN definition (and I can't be fagged to post a link) is:

Definition-Summary ....any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect to nullify or to impair the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life....

Of course such a definition hinges on whether or not America is really a proper "nation"

Nothing to do with the original post but what the heck - it's nearly Christmas. By the way Rivington Pike is nice at this time of year.

Erm...I'll get my coat.

Cheers,
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Wow still bitter after over 200 years. Why wouldn't America be a nation? England is the 51st state anyhow
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