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Old 23.11.2010, 21:28
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Re: Open letter to the manufacturers of Swiss electrical appliances

For all you plug geeks...



The guy won the overall UK Design Award in March for this - the whole thing is genius but especially the multi adaptor @ 2:40
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Old 23.11.2010, 21:34
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Re: Open letter to the manufacturers of Swiss electrical appliances

^^Why is the UK plug so unnecessarily large in the first place?
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Old 23.11.2010, 22:22
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I think it's more that the Italians do what they want and to hell with the consequences!

This is the Italianita ! Emphasis is given to things being easy and practical. Never heard about "consequences" out of this. And anyway, people for ages lived with electrical appliances with just two poles.
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Old 23.11.2010, 23:31
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^^Why is the UK plug so unnecessarily large in the first place?
I think it was originally to fit the old 13 amp fuses. As technology progressed, the fuses became smaller, but the wall sockets remained the size they are and therefore the plugs have to remain the size also.
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The polarisation of the Swiss plug ensures that the neutral wire from the appliance always goes to the mains neutral.

Not all appliance ON/OFF switches disconnect the live and disconnect the neutral - some only disconnect the live.

Hence, if the live and neutral were transposed then even though the appliance was switched off, it would still be live with respect to ground.
Exactly right. This is why the US plug standards even provide for polarized 2-pin plugs: safety.

Almost all 3-pin standards worldwide enforce polarity; I can't even think of one other than the Italian system.
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Old 28.11.2010, 21:52
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For all you plug geeks...



The guy won the overall UK Design Award in March for this - the whole thing is genius but especially the multi adaptor @ 2:40
Thanks, first time in my life I've ever found plugs interesting
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Old 28.11.2010, 23:02
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Exactly right. This is why the US plug standards even provide for polarized 2-pin plugs: safety.

Almost all 3-pin standards worldwide enforce polarity; I can't even think of one other than the Italian system.
On my visits to Poland I noticed that they leave the option to the manufacturer of the appliance. All wall sockets have a Live and Neutral entry point, but an Earth point that pokes out.

If the manufacturer requires an earth, they simply fit a plug that accepts the earth from the wall socket.

If the appliance is double isolated, they can opt for only live and neutral (effectively a 2 pin that fits Swiss sockets)
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Re: Open letter to the manufacturers of Swiss electrical appliances

::smacks head:: DUH! The German socket is also non-polarized.

Poland uses the French socket.

(Unlike the sockets, there are very few plugs that are purely German or French they're normally a hybrid plug that fits both properly.)

That said, I think maybe you misunderstood my post: I said that very few three-prong plugs do not enforce polarity (only the Italian and German ones, in fact). I didn't say that two-prong plugs that fit those grounded sockets enforce polarity. Only the US plug system can enforce polarity when a two-prong plug is used.
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Swiss plugs

What a shit design, absolutely infuriated. Someone said it better in some thread recently, but they didn't offer violence as a solution.

Is there someone I can punch? A cablecom plug cord designer maybe???
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Old 10.12.2010, 22:45
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What a shit design, absolutely infuriated. Someone said it better in some thread recently, but they didn't offer violence as a solution.

Is there someone I can punch? A cablecom plug cord designer maybe???
and what exactly is your real problem ?


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What a shit design, absolutely infuriated. Someone said it better in some thread recently, but they didn't offer violence as a solution.

Is there someone I can punch? A cablecom plug cord designer maybe???
Swiss plugs are much better than UK plugs... about a third of the size. My main gripe with Switzerland isn't the plugs themselves, but the depressed plug sockets. Makes plugging in adapters or EU plugs a complete ruddy nightmare.
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Swiss plugs are much better than UK plugs..
I agree. Hope I won't get punched for that
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Old 11.12.2010, 11:16
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I agree. Hope I won't get punched for that
You should for wearing that outfit

I kinda like Uk plugs, with the added extra security of the fuse inside, saved ma bacon a few times already
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Old 11.12.2010, 11:21
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You should for wearing that outfit

I kinda like Uk plugs, with the added extra security of the fuse inside, saved ma bacon a few times already
Yes, but in the UK you have a good, healthy 13 amps. In Switzerland the standard lights and sockets are 10 amps. From experience I can state that 10 amps is a mere tickle compared to the thwap of 13.

I miss those 3 amps . My apple crusher, mill, and large braumeister won't work on 10.
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The biggest problem with Swiss plugs, as opposed to British plugs, is the fact that they stick out so far from the wall, meaning that you can't shove any furniture up against the power sockets if they're being used.

I'm going to start a Twitter campaign!
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Old 11.12.2010, 11:26
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Re: Swiss plugs

Haven't got a clue about the amps, but you've got great taste in bikes ^_^ I've got a Bonnie myself.




I just can't belive someone would punch a kitten......
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Old 11.12.2010, 11:36
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Haven't got a clue about the amps, but you've got great taste in bikes ^_^ I've got a Bonnie myself.


I just can't belive someone would punch a kitten......
Not the kitten, the owner but i don't punch so you ar fine

The only good punch is the one you can drink..

Regarding plugs, i prefer the standard european one, 2 pin.. Swiss socket suck big time as the 2 pin comes in thin and thicker version , thin ones will fit, thick ones need an adapter..

Damn you sleek thin 3 pinned plug !
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Haven't got a clue about the amps, but you've got great taste in bikes ^_^ I've got a Bonnie myself.
They are brilliant, aren't they?

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Our kittehs punch us on a regular basis.
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Old 11.12.2010, 11:50
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The biggest problem with Swiss plugs, as opposed to British plugs, is the fact that they stick out so far from the wall, meaning that you can't shove any furniture up against the power sockets if they're being used.

I'm going to start a Twitter campaign!
A campaign for a change in plug design or the much more Swiss alternative of introducing the Swiss Standard Plug Recess Regulations for all new furniture?
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The biggest problem with Swiss plugs, as opposed to British plugs, is the fact that they stick out so far from the wall, meaning that you can't shove any furniture up against the power sockets if they're being used.

I'm going to start a Twitter campaign!
You should always keep a distance of at least 5 cms between walls and the furniture. There otherwise is a heavy danger that the walls start moulding
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