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Old 24.11.2010, 11:37
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Followed almost home from the bus

Two days ago I hopped on the bus to go home after work and some guy started bothering me. He kept trying to talk to me and wouldn't go away. Generally he was behaving very erratically. I got off at my stop and he got off too. I walked quickly in the direction of home and turned a couple of times and saw he was walking in the same direction as me. I thought he might be following me but I was still a little unsure and didn't want to go directly home and lead him there so I popped into the Coop nearby.

Lo' and behold, there he was in the shop too. Still, I thought to myself "don't be paranoid, maybe he just has to go to the shop too". At the till he squeezed out past the people on the next till but I could see him standing outside the shop looking at me so I went back inside. Next thing he comes almost-running through the shop and sees me and then makes a u-turn and goes the other way. I didn't have much doubt that he was following me after that so I went to one of the shop employees and started to explain the situation. He came around the corner and u-turned again and then ran past one more time. I think he ran away after that because there was no sign of him when I did go outside the shop with another shop employee who was kind enough to come out as far as the door to make sure all was ok.

Luckily it all turned out ok, but I think it was all the more unsettling because I generally felt very safe here and in my 10 months here nothing bad has happened at all until this. I'm usually fairly alert but that's more a habit than from a feeling of being unsafe. Although after going to the shop yesterday I was shaking like a leaf because I was (unnecessarily) paranoid about everyone, but I'm sure that will pass in a week or two.

Anyway, I guess I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this kind of thing and what you do/did to fix the situation?
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Old 24.11.2010, 11:41
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Anyway, I guess I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this kind of thing and what you do/did to fix the situation?
You listened to your instincts and handled things well. Next time (which I hope you don't have) take a picture and send it to the police.
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

also get some pepper spray
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Old 24.11.2010, 11:49
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also get some pepper spray
or make your own... Get a few of those small peppers from the store (you know, the hot little red ones), puree them up (seeds and all) with a bit of water, and voila! It is ridiculous how effective they are on eyes (for several hours too). And sadly, yes, I have a bit of unintentional experience with this...

Otherwise, if it happens again, I would make a loud scene. The good samaritan in (many of) us will react in your defense.
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or make your own... Get a few of those small peppers from the store (you know, the hot little red ones), puree them up (seeds and all) with a bit of water, and voila! It is ridiculous how effective they are on eyes (for several hours too). And sadly, yes, I have a bit of unintentional experience with this...

Otherwise, if it happens again, I would make a loud scene. The good samaritan in (many of) us will react in your defense.
In hindsight I think I should have made a fuss on the bus, or got off and got back on when I knew he got off too. I'm not good enough at German, so I'd have to make a fuss in english and I'm not sure people would understand what was going on as I'd probably end up speaking quite quickly in the heat of the moment. On the other hand, yesterday I learned from people I work with how to say "pi$$ off" in german
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Old 24.11.2010, 12:04
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Walking into Basel a few times, my wife and I have encountered, behind the Zoo, a white-haired lady with a fixed grin on her face, who follows us around for a while. We've seen her do it to others.

I think it's some kind of "care in the community". Quite unsettling though.
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Old 24.11.2010, 12:13
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

You did the right thing. You kept your wits about you, stayed in a public place, and got others involved when you felt it was necessary. If the guy was just a nut-job that you had the misfortune of bumping into on the bus, you'll most likely not see him again. But keep an eye over your shoulder the next few weeks just in case. Taking a picture of him with a cellphone could be a good idea if you need to go to the police later (but take any photos discreetly! otherwise you might set him off further)

Yea, I kind of let my gaurd down here in Switzerland too. The first time a stranger passing on the street here smiled and said "Grusse" I didn't know what to make of it. Back in New York if someone comes up to you on the street and says "hello", they usually aren't simply being friendly (ie: walk faster and clutch your wallet )
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In hindsight I think I should have made a fuss on the bus, or got off and got back on when I knew he got off too. I'm not good enough at German, so I'd have to make a fuss in english and I'm not sure people would understand what was going on as I'd probably end up speaking quite quickly in the heat of the moment. On the other hand, yesterday I learned from people I work with how to say "pi$$ off" in german
Making a scene in any language will elicit a reaction. If you feel uncomfortable, people will see it on your face as you make the scene, and understanding the words is unnecessary at that point...
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also get some pepper spray
Piexon is good. http://www.piexon.com/ I edc the Guardian Angel.
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Old 25.11.2010, 09:17
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In this instance, she's quite harmless. If you actually take the time to smile back at her and greet her, she'll actually go pick on someone else.
We tried that. Didn't work.
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Old 25.11.2010, 13:06
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Do you have pepper spray??? if not is time to buy some
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Kick him in the balls! That'll teach him!
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Piexon is good. http://www.piexon.com/ I edc the Guardian Angel.
Are they legal in Ch, Fr, eu?
same question with pepper spray.
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Old 25.11.2010, 12:51
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

I think they are illegal, but perhaps the homemade ones are a good choice.

I would like to have a tazer... pocket sized. Perhaps not, I might zap myself!!!

On another note, I hate being in a crowded bus or tram in the summer. Dressed in my wee cotton summery dress and the guy behind me is rubbing his nether regions against my leg (I am tall). YUK. YUK and triple YUK.
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Old 25.11.2010, 21:21
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Are they legal in Ch, Fr, eu?
same question with pepper spray.
I know its not legal in UK or Spain but I assume its legal in Switzerland because its Swiss Made. If it isn't can you get a carry permit and a handgun?
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Yeah,i knew exactly how you felt at that time because i had similar experience twice now both at Ottos and Migros.I was scared but i was able to tell the guys to back off.At both instance,they were elderly men.
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Old 25.11.2010, 10:26
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Next time somebody does that.. walk into the nearest Cop station.. let us see if the smartass runs around a station like he did in the coop...
On the lighter side... I see that you are into Karate.. you missed a chance in trying out some of the moves...
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Old 25.11.2010, 10:47
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

It has been discussed here countless of times: If your handbag is anything like my wife's handbag and you would need a similar amount of time to find the pepper spray in there as she needs to find her keys the entire idea makes no sense. The chance that any attacker would turn your weapon against you is fairly high.
The biggest "weapon" is still behaviour. Do not run away, make a stand in public where there are plenty of people around like the coop and clearly tell the guy to leave you alone. Trust me, he will understand English good enough to get the point when a woman shouts "go away or I call the police"...
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Anyway, I guess I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this kind of thing and what you do/did to fix the situation?

Ohh, thats' scary! Never happened to me in the past 3.5 years(thankfully). Wondering if Zurich is safer than Basel?
But, you did the right thing. Pepper spray is also a good option if you could find it quickly in your handbag . You could also have told him that you will call 'Polizei', if he doesn't bugger off!
And thanks for sharing this, I will be more alert now!
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Old 25.11.2010, 21:33
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Re: Followed almost home from the bus

Talk softly and carry a big Stick
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