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Old 03.12.2010, 22:53
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

By the way OP, what's with the underscores?
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Old 03.12.2010, 22:53
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I have not made any material misrepresentations. The situation is essentially as I explained it. All relevant/important information is as stated.
Come on man - really? Material misrepresentations? Nobody and I mean nobody uses phrases like these, and the other half dozen little gems of consultant speak you've thrown out in this thread, and only has 150 bucks to their name.

You're either a regular having a laugh because work shut down with the snow, or you're really a lawyer/auditor/corporate whatever with a serious crack habit.

Either way, it's been fun reading the last 9 pages.
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Old 03.12.2010, 23:06
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Right, specific question then: What's the rush? Why not wait until 'channels' can set you up with the repatriation assistance you are entitled to?
Unemployment and dwindling resources. It might take weeks to process, in which time i'd likely spend more while waiting than the surprisingly cheap fares that are available right now, and arrive with probably the same resources remaining. Repatriation assistance is also repayable, so over the long run it would cost me twice as much.

While it's true I have no family there I also have none here. There are no jobs for lawyers, and no jobs for people with arts degrees typically taken to inflate ones gpa for law school acceptance. Unemployment in the US is at least 20%, unless you believe the lies the government feeds you.

Part of what I like about CH: Decentralized government, similar to US model but unsullied by its judiciary. Most democratic government in the world. While voter turnout is low, this isn't likely due to the same kind of apathy as it is here, where nothing makes any sense. Neutral (with all the related and important implications). Regarded by its people as having one of the least corrupt governments. Location. Size (manageability). GMO/GE food ban and other stuff evidencing a general concern for safety and well being of its citizens and residents (housing and basic subsistence in constitution). And at the risk of seeming even more cliche, the UN, relative proximity to the ICJ and other institutions of international importance.
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Old 03.12.2010, 23:08
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By the way OP, what's with the underscores?
Sorry, I don't use forum software very much. I don't even know how to edit my posts. I guess we used to use underscores to denote emphasis on internet relay chat back in the day. I suppose I could italicize or use bold font or something instead.
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Old 03.12.2010, 23:14
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Part of what I like about CH: Decentralized government, similar to US model but unsullied by its judiciary. Most democratic government in the world. While voter turnout is low, this isn't likely due to the same kind of apathy as it is here, where nothing makes any sense. Neutral (with all the related and important implications). Regarded by its people as having one of the least corrupt governments. Location. Size (manageability). GMO/GE food ban and other stuff evidencing a general concern for safety and well being of its citizens and residents (housing and basic subsistence in constitution). And at the risk of seeming even more cliche, the UN, relative proximity to the ICJ and other institutions of international importance.
Yeah, that's right. You're in a position to choose.

No more troll feeding for me.

As a side note - I'm geniunely impressed by all the serious posters being so quick to offer words of advice and support. You guys are what makes the forum great.
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Part of what I like about CH: Decentralized government, similar to US model but unsullied by its judiciary. Most democratic government in the world. While voter turnout is low, this isn't likely due to the same kind of apathy as it is here, where nothing makes any sense. Neutral (with all the related and important implications). Regarded by its people as having one of the least corrupt governments. Location. Size (manageability). GMO/GE food ban and other stuff evidencing a general concern for safety and well being of its citizens and residents (housing and basic subsistence in constitution). And at the risk of seeming even more cliche, the UN, relative proximity to the ICJ and other institutions of international importance.
dude.. even if you are real.. you are about to live on street with your 150 fr.. why you give a shit the government is decentralized or the Neutral stuff? food ban?
seriously food ban??
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Old 03.12.2010, 23:49
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It's the truth...what if we get stuck somewhere and we'd have to rely on each other to survive. I need people who have managed everyday life already...
Ok, but you could eat him first.


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Even if he was like, never here?
Yes! Even if he never set foot in the country.

Some of you who say he is entitled to nothing and won't get a warm welcome when he turns up at the commune will be very surprised to find out how much money, heavily subsidized housing, childcare, classes (yes language classes too), social assistance, etc. he is actually eligible for.... It's quite generous. You only need to be a Swiss citizen and it doesn't matter if you've never set foot in the country ever.

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Unemployment and dwindling resources. It might take weeks to process, in which time i'd likely spend more while waiting than the surprisingly cheap fares that are available right now, and arrive with probably the same resources remaining. Repatriation assistance is also repayable, so over the long run it would cost me twice as much.
Just about all the assistance you will get is repayable once you get back on your feet.
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Just about all the assistance you will get is repayable once you get back on your feet.
I think most assistance actually isn't subject to refund (as bing would translate it), as long as there's no fraud involved, though in some communities I think it is as you described. That said, I believe that it should be the case, universally. Why not make it a rule to repay once capable?

I know my situation seems ridiculous, but it's not a troll.
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Old 04.12.2010, 01:55
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and as you have a Swiss Passport and depending your age, you will have to think to the Swiss Army ....but I'm not sure how that goes for expatriate coming back in SwissLand
Maybe enlisting in the Swiss Army would be a GOOD thing. The OP may learn German faster there and make connections with other Swiss that will help him find a job after he gets out.

(Of course, I never served in the military so my advice may be a lot of bunk...)
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Old 04.12.2010, 02:07
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I think most assistance actually isn't subject to refund (as bing would translate it), as long as there's no fraud involved, though in some communities I think it is as you described. That said, I believe that it should be the case, universally. Why not make it a rule to repay once capable?

I know my situation seems ridiculous, but it's not a troll.
First you say you don't want the repatriation money because you'll have to pay it back. Now you say you think it should be a rule to pay it back? Make up your mind.

What is your commune of origin?
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First you say you don't want the repatriation money because you'll have to pay it back. Now you say you think it should be a rule to pay it back? Make up your mind.

What is your commune of origin?
Wrong. I did not say that. Your thinking is imprecise or purposefully obtuse.

Repatriation assistance in the context used within the post you referenced was limited to assistance for the flight to CH. That's all the consulate can help you with, obviously. They have nothing to do with the inherent state power of the individual communities and cantons.

I stated that I did not want to wait for the flight assistance because I would likely spend as much while waiting just to exist, and that I would then have to pay them back for the flight as well. It's really not that complicated.
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Still feeding it, guys'n'gals?

Jolly good - put me down for a copy of Surprise (tho', TBH, I don't think there's any real surprise for anyone here

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Old 04.12.2010, 03:50
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Wrong. I did not say that. Your thinking is imprecise or purposefully obtuse.

Repatriation assistance in the context used within the post you referenced was limited to assistance for the flight to CH. That's all the consulate can help you with, obviously. They have nothing to do with the inherent state power of the individual communities and cantons.

I stated that I did not want to wait for the flight assistance because I would likely spend as much while waiting just to exist, and that I would then have to pay them back for the flight as well. It's really not that complicated.
Wait. You want us to discuss the brilliant idea to move to what basically is a foreign country where you don't speak the language with $150 in your pocket and for us to tell you how to live off social services and you groan me for not understanding one of your posts.... Ok. That sounds reasonable.

You didn't answer what your commune of origin is.
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Wait. You want us to discuss the brilliant idea to move to what basically is a foreign country where you don't speak the language with $150 in your pocket and for us to tell you how to live off social services and you groan me for not understanding one of your posts.... Ok. That sounds reasonable.

You didn't answer what your commune of origin is.
I'm sorry if i seemed rude. It wasn't just that you didn't understand my post, which was simple enough, it's that you assumed you did and put words in my mouth.

Also, I did not ask for anyone to tell me how to live off social services. I researched that for myself. Please review the original post.

My canton of origin is BE, though i was told it does not matter.
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Wait. You want us to discuss the brilliant idea to move to what basically is a foreign country where you don't speak the language with $150 in your pocket and for us to tell you how to live off social services and you groan me for not understanding one of your posts.... Ok. That sounds reasonable.
I think you'll find it was CHF150, not $150.

The exchange rate could make all the difference to the OP

Anyway, doughboy, pray continue - borrow mine if need be...

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So now if i come to ask a question on thenforum I have to explain my life's history, personal mistakes, take all my skeletons out of the closet, etc?? Troll or not some people here are going too far IMHO. But whatever.

Daboy, given the (constructive, either negative or positive) answers, what are you gonna do?
Ticket was purchased before posting. I've been looking for a job for the last month, since first deciding to leave, but I'll intensify that search based on the comments. Considering that wwoofing thing too. Maybe look for a paid internship at the UN or something, but i'm running out of time.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Go for it

See how life really is on the other side of the pond.

You're young and in my opinion it's the experience that counts.

But if you are really intending to stay - even with your Swiss passport - make sure your "legal" arrangements are done properly.

You will benefit from more and will face less hassle and problems.
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My canton of origin is BE, though i was told it does not matter.
It could matter since the cantons have different rules. I can tell you what sort of help for re-pats are available in Vaud but not in Bern.
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It could matter since the cantons have different rules. I can tell you what sort of help for re-pats are available in Vaud but not in Bern.
What I meant was that I was told that I would be free to settle anywhere, and entitled to some assistance wherever i would go, and that it would be more or less equivalent everywhere. Zurich might be best because, as others have pointed out, it might be the best place to find english only employment. It also has homeless shelters I could use until some kind of benefit comes through.

They could probably put me to work right away doing graffiti removal or some other mundane task while I learn more german. I didn't make up that graffiti removal. It's actually on the social help site. They have other stuff to do to either better the city or help some private business that has some kind of relationship with them (bing translations aren't perfect, but that's what i've gathered). That way I can earn some of the support money they give.
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