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Old 04.12.2010, 09:05
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

MaryThomi was nowhere near as articulate as this boy
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Questions for the OP:

1). What sort of visa did you hold to stay in the US for the past ten years?

2). Did you hold gainful employment in the US? If yes, for how long?

3). What kind of computer do you have? What internet browser are you using? (Seems _very_ strange to me that you can't see those little buttons for bold, italic, etc).

4). How did you fund your education in the US?

5). How do you pay for your internet access?

I agree with Salsa Lover - this is an obvious troll, people. I suppose we should stop feeding him, but at the same time, it is rather entertaining to watch him contradict himself (or should I say "make material misrepresentations") in his posts. Now let's see if he actually answers my questions as he claimed he would do in an earlier post.
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Old 04.12.2010, 10:35
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

What is your date of arrival here ? To which Swiss airport ? Using which passport to exit the States and entering CH ?

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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Daboy, leaving aside questions of trollery and taking your question at face value:

While I'm usually one to cheer on those chasing their dreams, in this case a little more planning will really make all the difference.

I've spent most of the last month visiting family in depressed rustbelt midwest Nowheresville USA, and guess what - there are jobs. Not great jobs, most are service-sector part time little-more-than-minimum-wage - but there are indeed jobs. Just about every fast food joint had signs out needing evening help, just about every store in the run-down mall needed Christmas help, two out of three grocery stores needed warehouse help. Not to mention all the casual jobs one can find: shoveling snow, cleaning houses, driving home-bound seniors, babysitting, dogsitting.

Yes - there are few jobs for newly qualified lawyers, and all the well-paid blue collar factory jobs are indeed gone - but an enterprising young person can indeed still find a way to make some cash.

As others have said, you really do need more than CHF 150 on landing. Stay through the Christmas season at least, work round the clock at several 'crap' jobs, eat ramen noodles in the meantime. Been there, done that, it's doable at your age.

Then with a slightly better padded wallet, go chase your dream.
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I may just be the most audacious Swiss alive.
This sentence alone can cost you your passport if read by real Swiss.
But keep up the good work at least here. I don't know how you pay your internet with 150 chf in the US, but that shows that you can do wonders.

Sorry I couldn't keep silent... this untertaining thread is too much of a temptation.

EDIT: I actually saw a telly program TEMPS PRESENT on TSR, they showed Swiss nationals rapatriated from Argentina during the worse years of the crisis. It looked well organized to me.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Yesterday I offered my help and invited on my previous post this guy to contact me in private since it sounded like he would need a friend here. Then today I sent him a private with a big long list of job sites in CH that me and my friends we used when coming here. No reply no nothing. No thank you no F.Y. I am starting to think im a bit naive and that it's somehow finally a troll as some of you say.
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Hey, Daboy... have you thought about getting a job at the Swiss Haven?

They could probably use an ethnic Swiss to give the place some authenticity.
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Old 04.12.2010, 11:50
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

It's clear he read my post because he groaned at it, but did he answer any of the questions? Nope!
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Nothing going down at Twentymile?

I know it's a bit of a commute from Alaska, but still... cash is cash, no?
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Old 04.12.2010, 12:07
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

There tends to be a lot of "Columbo", "Poirot", and "Sherlock Holmes" types on here, thinking they caught you in the worst possible crime of "trolling",but
I wouldn't feel any guilt in using the benefits of being a Swiss citizen. I think a lot of them are jealous that you have Swiss citizenship.
Go for it. Personally I would try to make a bit more money, but a lot of people sailed to the US, my ancestors included with little money and made it. I'm sure you'll do fine coming the other way. Maybe someone in the states that speaks German could make some calls for you before you come over, to clarify things.
Good luck!
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It's clear he read my post because he groaned at it, but did he answer any of the questions? Nope!
perhaps because it's none of your business and/or is irrelevant to the issue
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i dont know the swiss system that well but i cant help thinking that they will be too pleased if you turn up off the plane and expect to live off the state given you've never actually lived here and may question the validity of your passport.

I think you're going to need a lot of luck and help.

Jobs can be acquired with english only but not easily and are usually specialised.

good luck!
Why would they question the validity of it?
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perhaps because it's none of your business and/or is irrelevant to the issue
It's very relevant. Depending on his situation in the US, he may be eligible for unemployment benefits and other assistance there. That would give him time to get on more stable footing and make a responsible move to Switzerland.

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If you have any specific questions about my background then please ask. I have read all the responses. I don't see any real clear solicitation for further context. I'll re-read the thread to see if I missed some less obvious request for elaboration on my background that isn't rhetorical.
He invited questions, yet does not answer.
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Old 04.12.2010, 12:23
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You are hardly Swiss! This kind of attempt is particularly non-Swiss. You may well cause the Swiss authorities to reconsider who can actually lay they hands on red passports.

If you only have CHF150, how do intend actually getting here?? And what do you pay your internet access with? And finally isn't it the middle of the night there??
The OP has a Swiss passport, so the OP has Swiss citizenship. So nothing to really argue about there.
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It's very relevant. Depending on his situation in the US, he may be eligible for unemployment benefits and other assistance there. That would give him time to get on more stable footing and make a responsible move to Switzerland.



He invited questions, yet does not answer.
internet browser? how he funded his education?
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internet browser? how he funded his education?
Well, given the fact that there are several proven inconsistencies in his story, the fact that he won't answer any questions, even after having invited them, and the fact that whole situation is as plausible as an Baron Munchausen story, you can't really blame people for being a bit suspicious.

As it happens, I happen to know that he's a lovely young man, if a little naive. That comes from being a Kiwi, though, I've been given to understand.
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internet browser? how he funded his education?
The OP made it very clear in his first post that he wants a free ride from Switzerland. It is socially irresponsible and morally wrong to use social safety nets out of convenience and not genuine necessity.

It's hard to believe the OP has a genuine necessity for the social safety net given the details he presented: The OP has a university degree and a law degree! He's also typing all of this drivel into a computer of some sort - with internet access! Hardly a starving pauper. Unless, of course, he's using a computer at a homeless shelter. In that case, I would admire his ability to get the money together for the ticket and the tenacity to seek a way to rebuild his life. But he didn't answer the question.

Higher education is extremely expensive in the US in comparison to Switzerland and other European countries. If the OP had the money to pay for it himself, then that was a lot of money that is now gone, clearly. Or did he work hard to pay for school? If the OP was either working, or borrowed money from the US Government to pay for schooling then that means he has a green card or other permanent resident type status in the US. In that case, why hasn't he sought help there?

Raised in NZ with no NZ passport? Educated in the US with no US passport? It's all very sketchy at best.
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I think you mean ___proven___ inconsistencies.
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The OP made it very clear in his first post that he wants a free ride from Switzerland. It is socially irresponsible and morally wrong to use social safety nets out of convenience and not genuine necessity.

It's hard to believe the OP has a genuine necessity for the social safety net given the details he presented: The OP has a university degree and a law degree! He's also typing all of this drivel into a computer of some sort - with internet access! Hardly a starving pauper. Unless, of course, he's using a computer at a homeless shelter. In that case, I would admire his ability to get the money together for the ticket and the tenacity to seek a way to rebuild his life. But he didn't answer the question.

Higher education is extremely expensive in the US in comparison to Switzerland and other European countries. If the OP had the money to pay for it himself, then that was a lot of money that is now gone, clearly. Or did he work hard to pay for school? If the OP was either working, or borrowed money from the US Government to pay for schooling then that means he has a green card or other permanent resident type status in the US. In that case, why hasn't he sought help there?

Raised in NZ with no NZ passport? Educated in the US with no US passport? It's all very sketchy at best.
You can be raised in a country and not have a passport. The passport doesn't make you a citizen. The OP is already a NZ citizen without a passport, by the fact they the OP was born there.The US does have foreign students that come to study there. I don't think he claimed to be a starving pauper. But if the OP is entitled to benefits in Switzerland, I don't know if the OP is or not, why is it wrong for the OP to apply if he is eligible. Having an education doesn't guarantee financial stability. There are a lot of lawyers in the US and a JD isn't cheap. If the OP established residency in the US some states do allow foreign students to get the in-house state tuition, which makes it a bit easier. But the issue is that the OP wants to migrate to Switzerland, so I think answers should focus on that. Not everyone has a alterior motive or conspirarcy in mind when they post.
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