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Old 26.05.2021, 08:46
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Re: Arrived in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discuss

I'm pretty sure OP is not a troll. I'm also a foreign-born person with a Swiss passport, so the people that are questioning his 'rights' to a Swiss citizenship are definitely wrong.
The way he talks about his story sounds true, I can recognize myself in some of his posts.

I also moved to Switzerland quite recently, as an adult. However, unlike OP I have quite a lot of money invested and a decent passive income so thanks god I won't have to put up with this welfare BS.

I sincerely hope that things will get better for OP. I'd suggest that he starts getting assertive about his rights. There's nothing shameful about being poor, I myself was in quite a bad situation in my early 20s after my parents died and I was left with literally no money, no place to stay and no job. Shame and depression held me back for almost a decade before my situation turned around. It's never too late, it often boils down to a change of perception about yourself, and though I know from experience that it seems impossible when you're in a dark place as you are right now, things do get better eventually if you allow it.

Also wanting to live and be part of a country when you have some roots, even distant roots, is actually a positive thing, and most people do actually recognize this. A lot of people on this forum have good reasons to be angry at you, because the Swiss system is tough on foreigner, and they don't understand why you don't have to go through the same BS as they have to before getting what they see as the holy grail (the red passport). But it's their issue, not yours. You're a REAL Swiss, for good reasons.
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Re: Arrived in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discuss

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A lot of people on this forum have good reasons to be angry at you, because the Swiss system is tough on foreigner, and they don't understand why you don't have to go through the same BS as they have to before getting what they see as the holy grail (the red passport). But it's their issue, not yours. You're a REAL Swiss, for good reasons.
A lot of people on this forum have a lot of issues with other people's rights.
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..please do explain which illegal immigrant came here and made it?
A good example would be Mike Horn. He arrived in this country from South Africa with NO money, NO language skills besides English, NO rights to work. Today he is a huge star not only in French speaking Switzerland, but also in the whole French speaking world, he even had his own shows on French national TV. I remember him saying in an interview that when he first arrived in Switzerland he couldn't even afford a train ticket so he walked from Zurich to Montreux, asking farmers about jobs along the way, obviously getting rejected everywhere. In the end he figured out a way to make it, but his starting situation was much worse than OP.
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You got me there. I wouldn't work at mcdonalds. I know I shouldn't have this attitude, but I would rather die than work at mcdonalds, or anything food service related. But I'd do most things and have tried, but the problem is credentials. You need an Ausbildung to deliver the mail here.
Thanks for sharing your interesting if not always inspiring story. I only just read all this, but it seems to me that there's a strong thread of some aspect of mental trouble in it since the beginning, as you allude to occasionally. I have some family stories of the kind and I know troubles of the mind have a tendency not to let go. That's the real issue to look at: mind drives everything, as the first line of the Dhammapada reminds us. Attaching labels or diagnoses may, or may not, help.

Many of us who have been through even a month or two of contact with the local OCE or RAV (a much different but distantly related animal to the agencies you mention) can also likely attest that as you observe a lot of government programs here (as probably anywhere..) while designed in a well-intentioned way can seem to lack positive effect other than enriching companies that provide low-quality services to government agencies. You're always better off never needing them or making as limited use of them as you need for as short a time as you can because the experience is not good for anyone.

I do encourage anyone who encounters posts that use insulting or demeaning language towards others to immediately click on the offending user's public profile and click on "User Lists - Add to ignore list", somewhere in the middle of the top of the box. It would be great to have this as a button next to the groan button to make it easier.

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Be glad to be proved wrong in my assessment. A “newspaper project” spanning over a decade regarding undeserved benefits of Swiss citizenship. The quite wordy and slightly wacky OP “documents” his odyssey through the corrupt and useless institutions of Switzerland on this site to later publish a sensational exposé – in the Weltwoche, I assume

The KGB used to be known for deep cover agents, planting sleepers etc. etc. I seriously doubt today’s generally shoddy journalism explains the OP’s not always consistent story. If you’re really following a script, not even the NDB would stumble over a NZ/SA mix-up.

BTW, I’d like to thank the well meaning posters for a few official links. Might help to get an also slightly wacky relative out of their self-induced mess
This forum has already been subject of newspapers projects. Press in CH is an amazing world.
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