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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

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Would you consider moving to another city or state in the US? Unless your objections to the country are quite fundamental, that could easily be enough to give you the change of scenery/culture you're looking for.
To continue on the above train of thought, consider moving to the West Coast and joining a Swiss Club. Everyone with Swiss roots are welcomed and you'll be part of a nice group with a common ground that meets regularly. Google Swiss Club or Swiss Society West Coast. The Swiss Club in Tacoma / Bonney Lake, Washington State, is especially active as well as the one in Ripon, California.

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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Hrmm, I really hope for you're sake that you're joking and taking people for a ride on this thread.

150CHF to setup a new life in a new country?

An average hotel will set you back 150CHF per night.

I would highly recommend doing whatever you can to have at least 5k at your disposal. You probably can get state help, but it may take weeks to months before you see any cash.

Best of luck either way
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Old 03.12.2010, 10:12
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Unfortunately it's not a troll. I may just be the most audacious Swiss alive. I don't meant to be though. Lots of good responses to absorb. I appreciate the witty vitriol.
You are hardly Swiss! This kind of attempt is particularly non-Swiss. You may well cause the Swiss authorities to reconsider who can actually lay they hands on red passports.

If you only have CHF150, how do intend actually getting here?? And what do you pay your internet access with? And finally isn't it the middle of the night there??
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

I admire the OP's sense of adventure, but 150Chf??? Yikes!!
To put that amount in perspective, I had to pay 100Chf as a deposit on the keys for where I work. Seriously, there's some good advice above, esp the bit about couch-surfing. If I were you I'd try to save like crazy for the next 6 months, study as much of one of the languages as possible and arrive here during summer so you can at least camp out. I'd also try to check out what your military service obligations are here. It might be something you dislike having to do, but then again you could maybe do it full time upon arrival and it would be a good networking opportunity for finding a job after that....
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You are hardly Swiss! This kind of attempt is particularly non-Swiss. You may well cause the Swiss authorities to reconsider who can actually lay they hands on red passports.

If you only have CHF150, how do intend actually getting here?? And what do you pay your internet access with? And finally isn't it the middle of the night there??
Yeah, it's around 2:15am. I would like to apologize (sorry, apologise) for the typo in my previous post, due to the hour.

Yes, I know it's very un-swiss, hence the fear (now acute) that perhaps this isn't the most reasonable thing to do. Though it's probably going to happen anyway.
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Old 03.12.2010, 10:27
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Yeah, it's around 2:15am. I would like to apologize (sorry, apologise) for the typo in my previous post, due to the hour.

Yes, I know it's very un-swiss, hence the fear (now acute) that perhaps this isn't the most reasonable thing to do. Though it's probably going to happen anyway.
Then get in touch with Pfarrer Sieber's organisation. They will be able to help you more at the beginning than the Gemeinde.

I know other Kiwis - with Swiss roots - who have come to Switzerland. Some are doing well, one killed himself and some have gone back. Be prepared to work hard and put some of that stubborn dignity/pride aside. It will be more of a barrier than a door opener.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Is this an act of real desperation? It's freezing cold now. I don't know of any homeless shelters in Switzerland, but that is probably what you will need.
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Old 03.12.2010, 10:29
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

what i dont get is why come to CH? ok you have a passport but thats it. it not exactly home for you and life will just be hell for you so is it that you're just looking for a meal ticket and a free ride? if so this is the wrong place to do it. they will think you're a cheeky American taking advantage of your "swiss" passport.
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Then get in touch with Pfarrer Sieber's organisation. They will be able to help you more at the beginning than the Gemeinde.

I know other Kiwis - with Swiss roots - who have come to Switzerland. Some are doing well, one killed himself and some have gone back. Be prepared to work hard and put some of that stubborn dignity/pride aside. It will be more of a barrier than a door opener.
I lost my pride long ago. I don't see anything wrong with working a dumpster. Important job. Nobody can deny that.
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Yes, I know it's very un-swiss, hence the fear (now acute) that perhaps this isn't the most reasonable thing to do. Though it's probably going to happen anyway.
You'll probably end up as another statistic. And you can't claim to be an asylum seeker, so they really have no place to put you. Stay where you are, seriously, people will not welcome you with open arms here.
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Old 03.12.2010, 10:40
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

On the assumption that this isn't a troll and given that we don't know the whole story . . .-

First, why not try applying for Swiss jobs from where you are? Having a job on arrival will be much less risky and they may even be able to help with moving and set up costs.

Second, I wouldn't worry about stigma etc, but you may just find practical difficulties and delays in getting any money from the state, so I'd definitely try and arrive with siginificantly more than CHF150 in your pocket . . . I'd suggest that you need enough to live on for a month or two.

Also, consider that some kinds of service industry jobs will include accommodation. I don't know if it's the kind of thing you'd consider, but there's lots of work in ski resorts in winter and that's the kind of thing you could hop straight into without speaking anything other than English. It'd be fun too.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Relinking this Swissinfo article.


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Sometimes the police bring in people for whom they can’t find anywhere else to stay. Some stay for just one night.

“But we also have a lot of long-term guests, who are allowed to stay for a maximum of three months,” Brigitte said. “After that they are supposed to find somewhere else. But if they are unsuccessful, they can stay longer.”

Some communes / Gemeindes have emergency shelters.
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I lost my pride long ago. I don't see anything wrong with working a dumpster. Important job. Nobody can deny that.
Only problem...there are no jobs like in the US where you can help around the yard and get a few bucks to get you by. Everything here is regulated...and with a buerocratic system (that requires you to pay fees for eveything) to back it up.

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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Hi Daboy

Why don't you try wwoofing for the first few months? It costs like 20 chf to join and then you can work for board and lodging on a farm. You may learn some of the languages and definitely it is a fun experience, and can be a more relax entry into the country. I know the head of the wwoof organisation, pm me for more info.
I think wwoofing would give you a better feeling than couchsurfing, because you'd be useful, rather than living off someone's hospitality. And couchsurfing won't provide you with food. A healthy mind in an active body is what wwoofing is to me!
I may also recommend you a part-time, poorly paid job but it is fun.

Best of luck
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

I wonder how somebody can get a Swiss passport with both parents being citizens of New Zealand and just one grandmother who has been Swiss. AFAIK one only becomes Swiss with at least one Swiss parent.
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I wonder how somebody can get a Swiss passport with both parents being citizens of New Zealand and just one grandmother who has been Swiss. AFAIK one only becomes Swiss with at least one Swiss parent.
I've wondered this myself. Grievious clerical error? But then, the Swiss don't err. I've learned to just accept it, and to try not to think about it too much.
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Old 03.12.2010, 11:20
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I wonder how somebody can get a Swiss passport with both parents being citizens of New Zealand and just one grandmother who has been Swiss. AFAIK one only becomes Swiss with at least one Swiss parent.
Nah it's the continental European way (France excepted): you can be born here and not be eligible for citizenship, yet you can have the right blood through grandparents and voila, passport.

To the OP, I think you have three viable options on top of just going straight into the social system:

1. After contacting the the authorities for preparation, arrive here and go straight into military service for a year.

2. Find a farm or similar where you can volunteer for several months, leaving you time in between to get sorted.

3. Work as kitchen help in the rural areas, where accomodation will also be provided. Again, this way you can get sorted in the meantime. Many Tamil refugees did it this way and are now successful, settled immigrants.

Best of luck. Ignore the judgemental comments; do what's best for you. Everyone else around seems to be doing that at my tax expense; I'd rather it go to you and result in a success story.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

it takes huge balls to do somthing like that, but as others have said 150chf is nothing, a mcdonalds meal here will set you back the worst part of 20chf.

your 150chf will get your from the airport to town, a couple of meals and thats about it.

unless you can set yourself up with a floor to crash on and some temp work for when you arrive then I'd be saving like a mad man and come over in the summer (it was -11c lastnight in zurich, so your really don't want to be sleeping rough)
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Unfortunately it's not a troll. I may just be the most audacious Swiss alive. I don't meant to be though. Lots of good responses to absorb. I appreciate the witty vitriol.
Other adjectives (irresponsible, impulsive) spring to mind but not audacious...I fail to see why you are so desperate to come to a country where you have been once and only have 150 CHF in your pocket, do you have a place to stay here? It is cold man...
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Old 03.12.2010, 11:42
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Stay in the US and save up some money before you come. So, you don't like it there. Tough. Other people had to do the same thing before they came here, because it's a bit effing rich to come over here and claim benefits when frankly, you don't morally have a right to them. People work really hard for their money, you should do the same. I don't know when you were planning on moving, but maybe you should put it off for a year or so.

EDIT: sorry, that was quite an aggressive post. Benefits is a bit of a touchy topic for me, as I come from a country where too many people abuse the system. My point was that I think you should take the time to save up a LOT more money before you come. Also, some of the suggestions here about what you can do when you arrive have been very helpful, but I just think you need more than 150CHF before you even consider coming here.

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