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Old 03.12.2010, 16:39
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

If I was you I would get hold of video camera and if you have friends here make a documentary on your return I guarantee you will sell it.

I would like to follow you around and see the response this would be a corker of reality tv show.

I am serious but cant help think on how much fun this would be to film.
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Old 03.12.2010, 16:45
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If I was you I would get hold of video camera and if you have friends here make a documentary on your return I guarantee you will sell it.
Yep...."Blair Swiss Project"

"uhu...I am so scared...Uh"
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ok since everybody is chipping in ... I have some bedding that could help you, including a nice thick duvet...(is that the correct name in English?)
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Good news Daboy!

Assuming your story is real, you can might even qualify for a loan to come back if you are financially distressed. They may even train you for a job. Look on the Swiss Abroad website for more information on "Kilcher", a relief fund for such occasions:

Auslandschweizer-Organisation
http://www.aso.ch/
http://www.aso.ch/files/webcontent/r..._with_logo.pdf

This country may be dull and boring as heck, but it sure has some class.

Hopp Schwiiz!
Even if he was like, never here?
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

if you actually have the Swiss passport, the Gemeinde where you are registred has to care for you by law.
You'll have to give them every detail about your life and to proof you got no assets.

just call them, they'll get you a shelter and a job or pay you social benefit.

But you'll have to take the job they propose or you lose contribution.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

If i were you...


a) u should be positive and optimistic that you will find a job and you will get along with the swiss environment.
b) CH people are way to nice, no worries about that. the german part of ch most of their people speak english. the Ticino part - dammit people do not know a word of english.
c)be sociable, ask everything u dont know.

d) i wish u good luck
let me know how it is going.
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Even if he was like, never here?
Yes, that is correct
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Old 03.12.2010, 19:09
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Nah it's the continental European way (France excepted): you can be born here and not be eligible for citizenship, yet you can have the right blood through grandparents and voila, passport.
Err, no.
One parent has to be Swiss, and in addition you have to live for several years in CH to be eligible for a CH passport.

Sorry, but I am not buying into this story...



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I've wondered this myself. Grievious clerical error? But then, the Swiss don't err. I've learned to just accept it, and to try not to think about it too much.
In case there really had happened mistakes when you applied for the passport, they'll very likely find out when doing the background check if you apply for welfare benefits.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Dude stay off Switzerland..
If you canít survive in the US, you will definitely canít survive here.. rules are far more strict here and you are not gonna like it if you think entire USA is shit.
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Old 03.12.2010, 19:33
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Dude stay off Switzerland..
If you canít survive in the US, you will definitely canít survive here.. rules are far more strict here and you are not gonna like it if you think entire USA is shit.
And this from someone who lives in a place called "Paradiso"!
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Err, no.
One parent has to be Swiss, and in addition you have to live for several years in CH to be eligible for a CH passport.

Sorry, but I am not buying into this story...




In case there really had happened mistakes when you applied for the passport, they'll very likely find out when doing the background check if you apply for welfare benefits.
Sorry, but you're wrong. Yes, one parent has to be Swiss. How it works if you are born abroad to Swiss parents is that you have until you're 23 to declare your intention to keep your Swiss citizenship (unless you aren't automatically conferred any citizenship in your country of birth, since it's frowned upon by international law for one to be stateless). I didn't really know my parents, but I'm assuming my mother must have done this, and probably also registered my birth with the consulate in NZ. When I was twenty my application for my Swiss passport served to do the same thing for me, "declare my intention to remain Swiss."

The notion that they mistakingly gave me a passport is comical, but then this whole situation is, pretty much.
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Old 03.12.2010, 19:42
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The notion that they mistakingly gave me a passport is comical, but then this whole situation is, pretty much.
That's highly unlikely, I agree.

The one piece of sound advice that you have been given, even by people who think you are crazy, is that CHF 150 is not going to get you far. Try and save some more before you come and try and arrange as much as you can before you come. You are not going to walk into a welfare office and walk out with money. It can last a while before they process all the paper work...and paper work there will be. Talk to the consulate...

I don't know what it is like now, but when I was in the army there were some guys from abroad who had come back just to do military service. The government paid their air fares...just a thought.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

The towns and villages are obliged to support someone in difficulty if they have lived there 6 months. Otherwise help is refused. I think you will be shown the door and told to go and try the charities for alcoholics etc. However I think your Heimat village is obliged to do more, but I am not certain!

As many people have said already you should stay where you are until the consulate have arranged something for you.

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Old 03.12.2010, 19:52
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Yes, one parent has to be Swiss. How it works if you are born abroad to Swiss parents is that you have until you're 23 to declare your intention to keep your Swiss citizenship (unless you aren't automatically conferred any citizenship in your country of birth, since it's frowned upon by international law for one to be stateless). I didn't really know my parents, but I'm assuming my mother must have done this, and probably also registered my birth with the consulate in NZ. When I was twenty my application for my Swiss passport served to do the same thing for me, "declare my intention to remain Swiss."

The notion that they mistakingly gave me a passport is comical, but then this whole situation is, pretty much.
I agree, this is comical that so many people have offered help but you remain ever mysterious. I cant imagine that you would expect to come on an open forum and not open up. Many questions have been asked, but no answers provided.

You are obviously reading the replies. I would think after all of the outpouring of support and great advice you would at least provide a bit more background.

This is starting to feel like a very bad twin peaks storyline.
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Yes, one parent has to be Swiss. How it works if you are born abroad to Swiss parents is that you have until you're 23 to declare your intention to keep your Swiss citizenship (unless you aren't automatically conferred any citizenship in your country of birth, since it's frowned upon by international law for one to be stateless). I didn't really know my parents, but I'm assuming my mother must have done this, and probably also registered my birth with the consulate in NZ. When I was twenty my application for my Swiss passport served to do the same thing for me, "declare my intention to remain Swiss."
So your mother had a CH passport?

I thought you applied for the passport due to:


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I was born and raised in New Zealand, and so was were my parents, but apparently it was enough that my grandmother was Swiss for me to get a passport when I left NZ in 2000. I renewed it in 2007, so it's valid.




In addition, to back up my previous post with the relevant article:

7. Artikel 58a BŁG
Auslšndisches Kind aus der Ehe einer Schweizerin mit einem Auslšnder, das mit der Schweiz eng verbunden ist. ('eng verbunden'= means to have spent several years in CH.)
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So your mother had a CH passport?

I thought you applied for the passport due to:




I'm assuming either she had a passport or otherwise made her intentions clear that she wished to remain Swiss. It is, as I had originally stated, ultimately due to my grandmother being Swiss though, since my mother was born in Australia and grew up in NZ. Since my mother was essentially useless, my grandmother must have done whatever provisional paperwork would have been necessary to first maintain my mother's Swiss nationality and then mine.
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Your mother must have had a passport, but in addition I doubt how your grandmother/mother got around the part to prove that you have spent time in CH?
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Your mother must have had a passport, but in addition I doubt how your grandmother/mother got around the part to prove that you have spent time in CH?
She didn't. It wasn't something to have been worked around, because, again, you are _wrong_. It isn't required. You're obviously confused. Research jus sanguinis. I didn't naturalize. A previous poster has already observed that this is how it works in continental Europe.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

What I am wondering is, if you only have 150 CHf to your name, who is keeping you in the US? If you are being kept, you are in a better position than you would be in CH, so consider staying where you are.
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Old 03.12.2010, 20:28
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She didn't. It wasn't something to have been worked around, because, again, you are _wrong_. It isn't required. You're obviously confused. Research jus sanguinis. I didn't naturalize. A previous poster has already observed that this is how it works in continental Europe.
I gave you the relevant article of the Swiss Civil Code.
There is no uniform law of jus sanguinis wich is eligible across Europe.


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