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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Someone ban this guy and close this thread..
let not more people waste their time reading this thread.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

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'Basic principlesAbroad, Swiss citizenship is not automatically transferred from one generation to the next. As a result, the fact that you have a Swiss great-grandfather does not mean that you will able to obtain the red passport with a white cross. '

Loss of citizenshipIn fact, Swiss who are born abroad lose their citizenship once they are over the age of 22 if they have another nationality and if they have not indicated that they wish to maintain their Swiss citizenship.
If no notification has been given before this age, Swiss citizenship is lost and descendants will not be able claim it.If you wish to maintain your Swiss citizenship, you must submit a specific request to Swiss authorities before the age of 22.'
(source: isyours.com/e/immigration/citizenship/swiss_ancestors.html)

This specific request is then handled under the civil code, as been posted previously.


Seriously, stop trying to fool people here.

The reason why I am getting at you, as you are obviously having a laugh on the costs of some kind posters on EF who spend their time helping you and giving you adivce.

I understand if you genuinely think i'm taking the piss, but I'm not. You can't just italicize a sentence to make it true. You referenced naturalization law, which is irrelevant.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

I want to know more about Alaska!

I've got in-laws there, you know. Lovely people, although they're not eskimos, which is somewhat disappointing. You know what they say about eskimos, don't you? Or did Voltaire make it all up? Who knows?

Anyway, this is a town in Alaska. Do you know it?

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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

When I was 22 I worked 2 jobs for 6 months in the UK (low paying jobs) I saved every penny possible, then bought a one-way ticket to Australia. I had roughly 3,000 aus dollars with me. I put 1,000 into a bank account over there and used the rest to travel with. The 1,000 in the bank account was untouchable as it would have bought me a cheap ticket back to the UK if I couldn't make it/ran out of money/needed to get back quickly.

The money lasted about 2 months. I got to the Queensland coast with about 400 dollars left. Went to a place called Magnetic Island and found work on a nice camp site cleaning the showers and toilets and helping serve food in the restaurant at night, in return they paid me 3 meals a day and gave me a beach hut to live in. I stayed 2 months, it was like paradise. Then I bought a greyhound bus ticket to Sydney stopping off for a few nights along the way in Byron Bay. On arrival in Sydney I had a telephone number of the son of one of the regulars in the pub where I'd worked as a barmaid (and had never met) and approx 200 dollars to my name.

I called him up and he gave me his sofa to sleep on at his place in Bondi Beach. Then I went full steam ahead and literally knocked on every door in Sydney looking for a job. I had hundreds of no's. I went to agencies, bars, restaurants - everyday, no.

It took about 7 days before I found work "cold calling" at a call centre. Crap job, crap money - but money!! At least I could buy food and contribute a bit to where I was staying. I worked there for 3 weeks in the evenings and everyday spent my time trying to find a better job.

I had a teaching qualification but no experience whatsoever. But a college in Sydney asked me to go for an interview and the Director of studies took a shine to me. She said, I'll give you 3 days in the classroom and then come and observe you - and we'll see. I got the job and started earning really reasonable money. Paid my friend and found a very very small, cheap flat (shared bathroom - but who cared when I could see Sydney Harbour Bridge from my tiny kitchen window!) in an amazing location (Neutral Bay). (Building no longer exists - as it was prime waterside real estate, it was pulled down and made into luxury apartments - back then it was called Wallaringa Mansions!)

Worked there for 8 months, lived a great life - party life in Sydney! and saved several thousand dollars. At the end of my year, I bought a one-way ticket to Singapore and went with the flow - no plans, go where the wind and my mood blew!, seeing how far my money would go. I lived for 9 months and travelled extensively around Asia, eventually I flew from Hong Kong to Copenhagen and moved straight in with my Danish boyfriend who I'd met the year before in Queensland but hadn't seen for about 11 months. (He'd biked back overland to Denmark from Oz) I just turned up in Copenhagen and then moved in.

I did all my travelling alone and took calculated risks, did some really mad, spur of the moment things, saw and learned alot and experienced such freedom. Your twenties are the time to do things like that - so I would say, go for it. But be clever about it. I always had a back-up plan and enough money to at least pay for a flight back to the UK where I have a family base.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

I have been to Alaska, DB. There are six men to every woman, but the women tend to say "the odds are good, but the goods are odd", and I would agree with this. You meet a lot of immigrant workers from the Lower 48 states, as well as those that are on the run from the Lower 48 too. The only real Alaskans one gets to see are the First Nation peoples, and they are generally socially deprived.

As for the OP, if 150 CHF isnt all you have, then why not bring all you have? It would be ethically and legally very questionable if you fell on social services here whilst having a stash elsewhere.
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If you have any specific questions about my background then please ask. I have read all the responses. I don't see any real clear solicitation for further context. I'll re-read the thread to see if I missed some less obvious request for elaboration on my background that isn't rhetorical.

Perhaps I'm being distracted by the many comments questioning the validity of my passport, citing naturalization law, when that's obviously not how i came to be in possession of it, and the general (but understandable) disdain for my existence.

A lot of posters have given some good, helpful advice, which I appreciate. A lot of posters have told me things I already know, things that no reasonable person investigating this move would have missed. I don't mind that at all, since it's probably fair to assume that someone in my situation isn't reasonable. I don't mean to discourage commentary that might be redundant. I know it's coming from a spirit of kindness and, again, much of it is _is_ helpful.
I guess the main question that was asked but not answered was why you have to leave, are you in trouble of some sort. Some people have, perhaps facitiously, offered room, board, beer, food, but I would guess if I were offering up a place to crash I would like to know if there is a troubled past.
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I guess the main question that was asked but not answered was why you have to leave, are you in trouble of some sort. Some people have, perhaps facitiously, offered room, board, beer, food, but I would guess if I were offering up a place to crash I would like to know if there is a troubled past.
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Some people have, perhaps facitiously, offered room, board, beer, food, but I would guess if I were offering up a place to crash I would like to know if there is a troubled past.
If this guy is for real, he's posted 16 times and lied once. I wouldn't want to host somebody who lies 1 out of every 16 times he talks.
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If this guy is for real, he's posted 16 times and lied once. I wouldn't want to host somebody who lies 1 out of every 16 times he talks.
And there was me hoping to come and stay with you sometime...
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The thing I love about Alaska is how it all looks like the set of a cowboy film, but with more fish.

Not that I've been there, of course. But I seen pictures and that.




Of course, other parts of it are like something out of a Quentin Tarantino film...

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Well, I own a place in Steamboat Springs I'd let you crash at... but only because you "have a reputation beyond repute".
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Well, I own a place in Steamboat Springs I'd let you crash at... but only because you "have a reputation beyond repute".
It's amazing what a chap can buy with 150 CHF.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Daboy,

I've followed the conversation thus far and I respect the fact that as a Swiss citizen you want to emigrate to Switzerland. That is your right. However, putting aside all other considerations of the manner in which you are traveling to Switzerland, I wonder how much much thought you've given the fact that you are leaving the US with impresive academic credentials that are recognized in the US, and are entering a country which will provide you partial academic recognition at best. Your BA will get you a Matura level qualification (High School) and your JD will not get any recognition since it is considered a foreign professional degree . If you have a JD why not study for the bar, pass it and practice law in Alaska or wherever you choose to sit for the bar. Use your academic credentials that you have worked really hard for to your advantage instead of trying to start anew in Switzerland with basically no resources. I think that you stand a lot more to gain at least on the professional end by staying in the US.
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We had fresh Norway prawns for dinner tonight. They were very nice.

They came from this trawler...
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If this guy is for real, he's posted 16 times and lied once. I wouldn't want to host somebody who lies 1 out of every 16 times he talks.
I have not made any material misrepresentations. The situation is essentially as I explained it. All relevant/important information is as stated.

I'm not in any kind of trouble here, except of course, financial trouble, just like many people in the world right now. I don't _have_ to leave. I want to leave.

I'm not hiding assets. I estimate that I could have around 150-400 before I leave, based on what I manage to raise before then minus last minute expenses. This is after buying a ticket, since the paperwork involved in repatriation assistance takes a long time to process and i'm nowhere near a consulate general. 150 is just planning for the worst, though of course 400 isn't much better, obviously.
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

We are just pounding the poor guy .. welcome to Switzerland man..
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...and then what?! This has nothing to do with old people..this has something to do with logic. The simple 1 + 1 of life! How far do you think 150Chf willl last him in Switzerland..?
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

Right, specific question then: What's the rush? Why not wait until 'channels' (i.e. the Consulate General in LA or SF) can set you up with the repatriation assistance you are entitled to?
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Re: Arriving in CH on a one-way ticket with almost no money intending to stay. discus

The OP's proposed trip to Switzerland reminds me a lot of Snakebro's ill-planned journey to Mexico:

http://twitter.com/#!/snakebro

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Perhaps he's on the run from this fellow?



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