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Animal, yip you can say that again....

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Old 24.04.2008, 00:57
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Animal, yip you can say that again....

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I apologize for my rude remark. The Breathalyzer on the keyboard malfunctioned, allowing me to type and post when it should have prevented me.



I am sorry. I think bringing an N-registered plane here instead of succumbing to moronic ICAO / JAR / Swissie regulations makes a whole lot of sense.

What kind of bird do you have??
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Do you talk like that in person ?

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Old 24.04.2008, 10:13
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Do you talk like that in person ?

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No, I was trying to introduce humor, but I know that's not perfectly appropriate on a Swiss forum, at least without a detailed explanation.



Actually I wanted to say Roger but the forum made me post 10 letters min.

And I sometimes talk like that in person (sort of) when I communicate with ATC in my best Chuck Yeager impersonation voice.



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I am commencing drooling now.



Yes, I really think you should move the Bo to Switzerland.
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I might.......although the TIS collision avoidance won't work, nor will the NEXRAD weather receiver.... I don't think my WAAS GPS's will work here, but I would have to research that further. There's a seemingly permanent icy deck at 1,000 - 1,500 ft above Zurich from Nov - Mar and I do not have de-ice. I'll think about this stuff a little more before I make the trek accross the Atlantic. Having the equipment not work is not the deal breaker, as I have flown many years without it. Being grounded 5 months a year would not warrant the expense of bringing it over
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Old 24.04.2008, 11:09
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Re: Any pilots out there / in here?

TIS I am not sure about, NEXRAD I think you are right and it doesn't work, your GPS will work fine (albeit no WAAS approaches).

I have done quite a bit of flying around here during the winter month, and all of that was in a C152 with no de-icing equipment, so it's definitely possible. You may have to pick your days and check the weather carefully, but I've been into Samedan and crossed the Alps going into Lugano all in the last 3 or 4 months.
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TIS won't work in Europe. Real Men use TCAS which is MEL if you are flying a proper aircraft

GPS obviously will and EGNOS data corrections should give better accuracy.

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I might.......although the TIS collision avoidance won't work, nor will the NEXRAD weather receiver.... I don't think my WAAS GPS's will work here, but I would have to research that further. There's a seemingly permanent icy deck at 1,000 - 1,500 ft above Zurich from Nov - Mar and I do not have de-ice. I'll think about this stuff a little more before I make the trek accross the Atlantic. Having the equipment not work is not the deal breaker, as I have flown many years without it. Being grounded 5 months a year would not warrant the expense of bringing it over
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Re: Any pilots out there / in here?

TCAS is a little rich for my blood......Looks like I'll have to go without until I can afford SKYWATCH. (US$15k - US$20k, depending on the system)

I just installed the WAAS upgrades to the GPS's and installed the NEXRAD receiver, so I need to recharge my financial batteries.

I appreciate the tip on the need for de-ice.

I hate to inquire about the recent price of AVGAS. The last time I checked it was ChF 2.50 per liter.......at 2 litres/min at takeoff power and 1 litre/min at cruise, this could get pricey.
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TIS won't work in Europe. Real Men use TCAS which is MEL if you are flying a proper aircraft

GPS obviously will and EGNOS data corrections should give better accuracy.

dave
Of course the Swiss would tell you that FLARM is king, not TCAS (because it's Swiss-made, just like they think that Zug is better than Miele).



EGNOS is Europe's version of WAAS, correct? At a quick glance, it looks like a GPS receiver should pick it up just like a U.S. WAAS signal?
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.I hate to inquire about the recent price of AVGAS. The last time I checked it was ChF 2.50 per liter.......at 2 litres/min at takeoff power and 1 litre/min at cruise, this could get pricey.
When a Cessna 152 rents for 250 Swiss Francs per hour (*) you know you are in for a lot of pain.



(*) Does not include departure, ATC, landing, passenger, security or noise charges.
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Yeah, EGNOS transmissions are simple confidence corrections already embodied in the GPS data stream from three other sats and some ground stations. WAAS relies on correlation of ground stations alone, and is for girls.

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Of course the Swiss would tell you that FLARM is king, not TCAS (because it's Swiss-made, just like they think that Zug is better than Miele).



EGNOS is Europe's version of WAAS, correct? At a quick glance, it looks like a GPS receiver should pick it up just like a U.S. WAAS signal?
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Re: Any pilots out there / in here?

I heard about departure fees, but please do elaborate on the frequency and magnitude of the others. (ATC, landing, passenger, security, noise charges,etc.) I can't wait to hear the answer........also are some airports better than others regarding the severity of the fees other than the ATC fees?
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FLARM operates on a "licence-free" radio band. Mmmmm.

Quite apart from the integrity issues, correct functionality of collision warning systems depends on use of transponders and the other aircraft being fitted with the same. Fine for GA, not much good for seperation incursions with an A330.

"The small-size, low-cost, low-power device FLARM broadcasts its own position and speed vector (as obtained with an integrated GPS) over a license-free ISM band radio transmission. At the same time it listens to other devices based on the same standard."

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EGNOS is Europe's version of WAAS, correct? At a quick glance, it looks like a GPS receiver should pick it up just like a U.S. WAAS signal?
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Old 24.04.2008, 13:00
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I heard about departure fees, but please do elaborate on the frequency and magnitude of the others. (ATC, landing, passenger, security, noise charges,etc.) I can't wait to hear the answer........also are some airports better than others regarding the severity of the fees other than the ATC fees?
You will pay some sort of fees at every single airport in Switzerland.

For the little Cessna 152's and 172's I am flying they can range from 10 CHF in Speck (small grass strip near Fehraltorf) to 20 CHF in Sion or Lugano. When there is a tower, they add on ATC fees even for VFR traffic. Then there is a passenger charge in Zurich, currently 8 CHF per head, soon 15 or 20 CHF, can't remember.

Usually less service = cheaper fees. So park your plane in Birrfeld (LSZF, I think) and life is better.
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FLARM operates on a "licence-free" radio band. Mmmmm.

Quite apart from the integrity issues, correct functionality of collision warning systems depends on use of transponders and the other aircraft being fitted with the same. Fine for GA, not much good for seperation incursions with an A330.

"The small-size, low-cost, low-power device FLARM broadcasts its own position and speed vector (as obtained with an integrated GPS) over a license-free ISM band radio transmission. At the same time it listens to other devices based on the same standard."

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Well, my half-joking comment apparently did not trigger your sarcasm-o-meter.



I think FLARM is a nice idea, it was invented for the glider community, but ANY collision avoidance system should make compatibility its major selling point, and I agree 100%, FLARM sucks in that aspect.
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That's because this extended outside my forum-persona into things that matter...

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That's because this extended outside my forum-persona into things that matter...

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I think I really need to sit down with you over a bier or two and learn a lot about avionics ...

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Questions for all the Pilots located in switzerland

I was wondering if anyone is studding for ATPL theory and, if there is a place where students meet and help one another, like in a Library or somewhere that any student can go anywhere in Switzerland and get together with a groupe and prepare for the exams....
Other than a school. Mostly all the school is this country they have distance learning....

Please let me know if anyone can share some information.

Much appreciated....

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