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Old 16.12.2010, 23:46
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what you describe here as "their" system is the one in Europe for a century. That Switzerland overall is among the slower ones hardly is surprising, but to describe it as "their" is simply wrong
We could sure do with Swiss banking efficiency! At least the US banks are better than the British.
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Old 17.12.2010, 20:12
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I love Hyabusas, unfortunately my husband prefers BMW.
BMW's new S1000RR is the only bike that I like from the German manufacturer,its focused and its mad...............its fast and its lovely.
Still if I am given a choice to go for one of the world's fastest bikes,it would definitely be the Hayabusa for its hypersports cum tourer character.

In the United States,Hayabusa is a legend,people swear by the name of this bike other than the Harleys which are definitely for a different set of people.

Japanese brands are slowly getting influenced by the USA culture,
The new Hayabusa was updated because,US bikers wanted it that way,fast,in your face and deadly.
The Yamaha Vmax became another legend in the USA and the new Vmax was conceptualised entirely out of US clientele's desire.The 200bhp Hyperbike machine with dragster dynamics between a cruiser and a race bike is very much the child of American biking dream.

The Toyota has an entire brand called the Lexus for US exclusive market.
The Honda has also the Acura car brand likewise.

Thing is,USA has other manufacturers to get it done,why worry Harley or Buell or General Motors to get the needful done.

But I definitely have to admit,when it comes to cars,
Europe tops the list,
Bugatti Veyron,Koenigsegg CCX,Lambhorgini Murcielago,Pagani Zonda,Ferrari 599GTB,Mercedes SLS AMG,Porsche GT2RS,Aston Martin DBS...............the mother and father of Supercars and performance,is all European.

Even the luxury ones like Bentley,Rolls Royce and Brabus are all European.
Audi,BMW,Mercedes,Volvo,Jaguar,BMW,Renault,Maserat i,Lotus,Volkswagen,Citroen,Seat...........talk cars and its hard not to mention Europe.The market is all European.

USA only got Ford and GM and maybe the Hummer and Wrangler somewhere when it comes to SUVs.
Mustang,Camaro,Corvette Z06 and GT.............good at high speeds and ridiculous at handling.

Japan and Korea has little to do when comes to cars,
Budget cars,helps you enjoy the comforts of a box on wheels but you go un-noticed.
Hyundai,Suzuki,Toyota,Honda,Mitsubishi and Subaru..........I had hard time finding these brands in the CH !!!!
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Old 17.12.2010, 20:39
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BMW's new S1000RR is the only bike that I like from the German manufacturer,its focused and its mad...............its fast and its lovely.
That's the one he test drove and was expecting me to be fobbed off agreeing to it if he got me BMW too. I called it a deathtrap and to stick to his modified k1200r. I have a friend with a Hyabusa so I'm covered for a pillion ride! I have too much invested in the husband.
We are incorporating pedal cycling, to keep fit. the US really does need to learn from the Swiss accommodations for cyclists; cycle tracks etc.
Off topic, one of the craziest places, I've seen for midlife crutch rocketing is the peak district in the UK, roadside warnings post the annual rate of fatalities and injuries-stonewalls and narrow country lanes are a bad combination, some fancy bikes though!
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I called it a deathtrap
Come on be optimistic,your hubby's a grown up man and I think he can be different sensibly.................if someone owns the S1000RR,he owns the king of Superbikes.

My best road on earth is surely the Autobahn,I often dream of going amock on that road on a Hayabusa.

I think there is this popular Biker who calls himself the "Ghost Reider",on youtube I get glimpses of his supersonic movements aboard a green Hayabusa and on the Autobahn And in CH I found his graffiti on several sound barriers and tunnel side walls.
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Come on be optimistic,your hubby's a grown up man and I think he can be different sensibly.................if someone owns the S1000RR,he owns the king of Superbikes.

My best road on earth is surely the Autobahn,I often dream of going amock on that road on a Hayabusa.
But the roads are STRAIGHT!

I guess that's why i geared my 999R down to a max speed of 240 (from the original 270), much more fun riding in the mountains!

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I guess that's why i geared my 999R down to a max speed of 240 (from the original 270), much more fun riding in the mountains!
Focussed corners are for tracks,while on a mountain road we would surely love some torque and medium cornering as we would love scenery and trying not to descend down some 1000ft or so everytime a corner is approached,a stock Busa is easily capable of that.

And there you do shorter gearing on the Ducati to gain some torque........fine,ya should never have had bought the 999R

But this thread is slowly converting into Biking thread !!!!!
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Old 12.12.2011, 10:26
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So yesterday, I went to shop in Basel as it was one of the 2 Sundays per year that stores are allowed to be open. I went not only because I liked the feeling of steppig into a store on a Sunday but I also went to observe. It was an amazing sight. There was a car line up into the city starting from the highway exit. It was amazing to witness the rush for the extraordinary and yet it is an event that billions around the world can enjoy every Sunday…just not in Switzerland. I went for a stroll in the city and then decided to step into the pinnacle of modern commerce..the Stücki mall. They had to hire additional security guards because traffic was crazy and all the parking lots were filled.
As I stood on the escalator, I was welcomed by the cacophony of modern pop music (most likely uncesored at that)…and the temperature wasn’t the usual 36C that is prevalent in most larger Swiss stores. I assume they did expect loads of people and thus turned the termostat down. As I arrived on the mainfloor, I got unusually excited, I mean, I’m in retail managment and I love seeing people spend money, furthermore I love seeing people willingy getting blindly robbed by those stupid "pathetic American corporations" . I mean, the busiest stores were the ones that had the most staff and coincidentally those were the American franchises (and Saturn). Now, here I was watching the stereotypical cliches of people….the uperscale Swiss family with all their expensive gadgets, the typical Turkish family…a man in greyish brown clothes, with his 2 children and his mumified wife; the mid 20s yugoslavian clan with the cool sideburns, the metrosexual shiny jackets, gelled hair and the homosexual shiny recreational wannabe sports shoes; the semi traditional hybrid Italian family that has been here since Granpa Giovanny emigrated back in the 50s; the typical Swiss man with his Asian wife and his hybrid children…..well, I could go on. My point is, they were all consuming. The line at Starbucks was almost as long as the Chinese Wall and Foot Locker couldn’t keep up with its customers…the Body Shop probably was left with one soap bar on the floor that everybody refused to pick up for whatever reason, McDonalds made more children happy than Michael’s Neverland Ranch (or whatever it’s called). It was all in all a beautiful sight.
Now, when I talk to people, they generally do nothing but bash the US. Oh, they don’t have decent food…they don’t know how to live….they have no money….their products suck. Nevertheless, these naysayers refuse to understand how they are being butt****ed by the very same country that they love to hate. In addition, I also find it interesting, that their whole lifestyle is being influenced without them noticing it and they simply accept it as change. Now, what would we wear, eat, listen to if the US wasn’t such a global influencial force…what if let’s say Russia or Inner Mongolia were the driving force in todays societies. I doubt that we would be sipping nonchollantly on our Tall Cafe Latte, whilst texting Cindy on our Iphones, wearing some Air Maxes, Levi’s bootcuts and a Tommy sweater (Note to reader: I don’t own neither of these products so please don’t get on my case). I don’t think that our lives would be so plush and comfy...nor do I think that we would be living in peace and quiet despite the fact that our big brethren across the pond has in recent history proven to bet he aggressor. Now, is this right? Can we allow this? Should be allow nations across the globe to deculturalize itselves or is it really just a change in time for the better?

So yeah, yesterday was one of them "approved" Sunday sales...and I saw the aforementioned scenario taking place again. In addition, I've also noticed, that many stores improved the visual appearance of their POS. Apparently, open Sundays, are the most profitable days of the year....I wonder, when stores start to realize, that it would improve a lot of things, if customers could finally choose when to shop.

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Old 12.12.2011, 10:59
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The only reason the Sundays are so profitable just now is because it's the run up to Christmas. If they opened for all Sundays in the year it would probably average out at a loss.
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The only reason the Sundays are so profitable just now is because it's the run up to Christmas. If they opened for all Sundays in the year it would probably average out at a loss.
No, simply check how well the gas station stores run on a Sunday...and it's mostly people byuing food. It has been proven before, people prefer to shop when they have time.

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Old 12.12.2011, 11:05
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No, simply check how well the gas station stores run on a Sunday...and it's mostly people byuing food. It has been prooven before, people prefer to shop when they have time.
Are we referring to the Swiss as people now?

You can't compare people buying gas and food at a gasoline station to people buying gadgets at Saturn.

Food and gasoline are thing that one buys continuously. An electronics or clothing store sees huge growth over the xmas period. Granted so would food over xmas and new year...but not the food you buy at gasoline stations.
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Are we referring to the Swiss as people now?

You can't compare people buying gas and food at a gasoline station to people buying gadgets at Saturn.

Food and gasoline are thing that one buys continuously. An electronics or clothing store sees huge growth over the xmas period. Granted so would food over xmas and new year...but not the food you buy at gasoline stations.
That's somewhat incorrect, as we all are driven by impuls, it is fair to say that overall sales would go up instead of down.
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That's somewhat incorrect, as we all are driven by impuls, it is fair to say that overall sales would go up instead of down.
And now we know why you don't fit on seats...
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And now we know why you don't fit on seats...
Look here mini-me...I know you've exhausted your extensive library of witty lolcatz and other random stupidity, that you've spent hours elaborting. Now, instead of trolling my threads, why don't you go greet some newbies or sell chiclets/oranges on the street for all I care. Your admiration for me recently is turning into some fatal attraction, as I cannot seem to do anything on the forum without you running some counter action....and just by the way, you gave me the greens which were meant for grynch.
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That's somewhat incorrect, as we all are driven by impuls, it is fair to say that overall sales would go up instead of down.
I think Porsche has a point, the costs of staying open and hiring staff (on Sunday rates) throughout the year would result in a loss. This is not a consumer society like GB and the USA where people are maxed up to the eyeballs in credit card debt and where shopping is an acceptable pastime. I was in Basel yesterday evening and I would say that about 75% of the people thronging the streets didn't have any shopping bags on them, it was just a chance to go for a stroll.
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I think Porsche has a point, the costs of staying open and hiring staff (on Sunday rates) throughout the year would result in a loss. This is not a consumer society like GB and the USA where people are maxed up to the eyeballs in credit card debt and where shopping is an acceptable pastime. I was in Basel yesterday evening and I would say that about 75% of the people thronging the streets didn't have any shopping bags on them, it was just a chance to go for a stroll.
It takes society some time to get adjusted to some improvement. You cannot just expect to open shop on Sundays and people will come running. Also, this is a consumer society, just like anywhere else, the only difference is, that marketing and options are weak. The even have lay-away appliances and electronic goods in stores. I'm certain, that given the option to shop on Sunday would benefit the economy and society in the long run.
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So yeah, yesterday was one of them "approved" Sunday sales...and I saw the aforementioned scenario taking place again. In addition, I've also noticed, that many stored improved the visual appearance of the POS. Apparently, open Sundays, are the most profitable days during the year....I wonder, when stores start to realize, that it would improve a lot of things, if customers could finally choose when to shop.
do youi know, until I read this I hadn't even realised shops were open. I was in Zürich West on Sunday morning with my camera. That's an area I don't normally go at that time of day so can't say what it's normally like but it didn't strike me as being much of a rush. I wasn't paying special attention to shops but none caught my attention. We went to the top floor of the WF car park. In case you don't know it, it's a scary rotting 1960s brutalist concrete structure with some neat graffiti and lots of pigeon droppings and is absoluely great for B&W photography. The car park was virtually empty. It never even occurred to me that any shops might be open.
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do youi know, until I read this I hadn't even realised shops were open. I was in Zürich West on Sunday morning with my camera. That's an area I don't normally go at that time of day so can't say what it's normally like but it didn't strike me as being much of a rush. I wasn't paying special attention to shops but none caught my attention. We went to the top floor of the WF car park. In case you don't know it, it's a scary rotting 1960s brutalist concrete structure with some neat graffiti and lots of pigeon droppings and is absoluely great for B&W photography. The car park was virtually empty. It never even occurred to me that any shops might be open.
Stores were closed in Zurich last Sunday (yesterday), they were only open in Basel Stadt.
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