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So the US has always been a cosmopolitan melting pot without a dominant culture?!
Agree totally with Treverus on this because given their indigenous status, the Native American Indians were once the dominant culture in the US . . .
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America maybe loves to imitate the semblance of other cultures but mostly it's a disneyworld-style front tacked onto the basic framework of their own culture. All the immigrants do their best to be Americans and most get there in less than a generation while the Americans love the romantic feeling of being able to savour other cultures as long as they don't have to stretch beyond their rather limited comfort zone. Places like London are far more genuinely multicultural than anything I've ever seen in America.
That's utter nonsense. Not the bit about London; that might be true. But the bit about America is just utter nonsense. Where and what have you seen in America that caused you to reach such an ill-informed conclusion?
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Agree totally with Treverus on this because given their indigenous status, the Native American Indians were once the dominant culture in the US . . .
Not to get too technical, but the natives had largely been wiped out in the colonies by the time the US was formed.
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From top left: Amogles, Downerbuzz, Dodgyken, Economisto, GastroGnome
From bottom left: Mirfield, Karl (we gave him to the Brits), DB (crossed legs), Porsch1909, Slammer (LIB ducks for cover before bows start flying)
Very clever; one way to beat the shopping laws. Please provide driving directions to the reservation- and details of deals on cigarettes, booze or gambling packages.
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That's utter nonsense. Not the bit about London; that might be true. But the bit about America is just utter nonsense. Where and what have you seen in America that caused you to reach such an ill-informed conclusion?
You hit the nail on the head.
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Old 14.12.2010, 18:55
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From top left: Amogles, Downerbuzz, Dodgyken, Economisto, GastroGnome
From bottom left: Mirfield, Karl (we gave him to the Brits), DB (crossed legs), Porsch1909, Slammer (LIB ducks for cover before bows start flying)
Guess the pic was taken after a big pow-wow timeout somewhere real hot and sunny .

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Old 14.12.2010, 18:58
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Not to get too technical, but the natives had largely been wiped out in the colonies by the time the US was formed.
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Gastronnome looks miffed, Mirfield puzzled/ concerned, While DB is carrying his usual supercilious sardonic smile.
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Agreeing with the overall theme of this thread, re. limited retail hours, I have to send out my sympathies to my colonial cousins, for the agonies you must put yourselves through. Every Sunday morning, racing out to the car, list in hand, yearning for your retail therapy, after a hard week slaving over a hot keyboard, only to have the striking, nay, shocking revelation that you're not in Uncle Sam's land of the free, but you are in fact, in .... in .... ah shucks ... only Switzerland. A land that maybe isn't as Americanised (with an "s"), as maybe you thought it should be - after all, it's still retaining some it's identity and culture.
My heart bleeds for the pains you must put yourself through -- who on earth could have subjected you to such torture -- labouring all day for a pittance, living in a European shanty-town ghetto, with no modern amenities.
".... if only someone could get us out of here, so we could escape back home ...." I hear you cry -- so you could spend all your free leisure hours down the mall, or outlet parks ..... ah, if only .....
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So the US has always been a cosmopolitan melting pot without a dominant culture?!


It totally is. There really isn't a dominant culture. And even if one can be identified, the vast majority would not pay a pittance to it. America is more accurately defined as a conglomeration of many cultures.

What differentiates America is the individual's drive for self-actualization, which is rare to find in other cultures. It's not so much about the culture of America, rather about the individuals who live there. In other places, the way of the individual is to conform to society. I mean, you live and look like a hundred thousand others of your peers, no? You don't really have much room to deviate from "the norm".



So in America, there is a freedom of choice in terms of lifestyles, and it does go into the far fringes. A vast number of people live alternative lifestyles. Some are ridiculous and some are genius. And its not always easy to predict who is who.

So everyday individuals are free and encouraged to invent themselves. In fact, they are pressured to invent themselves. Whereas this is a big "no-no" in many cultures, especially germanic cultures. Those who succeed in inventing themselves generate a lot of by-products in the process. And those by-products are packaged, marketed and sold to people in other parts of the world. Perhaps sub-consciously, those who buy these things believe that by osmosis they can be just like the freed individual. But they can't. Because those are only by-products of the artist.... the husk... the shell... the soap scum.... the poop. The real essence has to be lived and earned, not bought.
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Americans work longer and more unsociable hours. If retail hours did not adapt to suit working hours then not much would be sold. They also have to fit around the football game. I managed to stop panic buy rush before the game at Walmart by suggesting to the management that they put the game up on the big LCD TVs- it worked!
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by suggesting to the management that they put the game up on the big LCD TVs- it worked!
..yeah, but see, here you probably needed a permit for that.
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Look at all these people waiting from 3AM to get into the store for Black Friday sales.

I'll pass on that.




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Look at all these people waiting from 3AM to get into the store for Black Friday sales.

I'll pass on that.
It's the size of the average walmart shopper that frightens me, the door should act as an ass gauge, but they somehow mange to morph and squeeze through.
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It totally is. There really isn't a dominant culture. And even if one can be identified, the vast majority would not pay a pittance to it. America is more accurately defined as a conglomeration of many cultures.

What differentiates America is the individual's drive for self-actualization, which is rare to find in other cultures. It's not so much about the culture of America, rather about the individuals who live there. In other places, the way of the individual is to conform to society. I mean, you live and look like a hundred thousand others of your peers, no? You don't really have much room to deviate from "the norm".



So in America, there is a freedom of choice in terms of lifestyles, and it does go into the far fringes. A vast number of people live alternative lifestyles. Some are ridiculous and some are genius. And its not always easy to predict who is who.

So everyday individuals are free and encouraged to invent themselves. In fact, they are pressured to invent themselves. Whereas this is a big "no-no" in many cultures, especially germanic cultures. Those who succeed in inventing themselves generate a lot of by-products in the process. And those by-products are packaged, marketed and sold to people in other parts of the world. Perhaps sub-consciously, those who buy these things believe that by osmosis they can be just like the freed individual. But they can't. Because those are only by-products of the artist.... the husk... the shell... the soap scum.... the poop. The real essence has to be lived and earned, not bought.
I agree that there are a good number of individuals in the USA who have broken out of the norm and achieved great things by doing things their own way, be it in music, in art, in politics or in business (and others who have only succeeded in making themselves to jokes, Sarah Palin for example, or people who pursue totally insane conspiracy theories or join peculiar cults and sects). But I don't think that this is the same as saying that everybody unleashes the maximum of individuality. These individuals who do live to the maximum their right to individualise are a minority. Adverising-led consumerism seems to me to be the antithesis of creative individualism and breaking out of the mold. Yet advertising plays an important part in America and I don't think the advertisers would be sinking millions into it if all consumers were ignoring them. Go to the suburbs of any major city and you will find large numbers of near-identical houses and the people living in them pursuing near-identical lifestyles, with those unable to afford that lifestyle nevertheless dreaming of getting there one day. I don't think in that respect America is too different from any other country I know and I don't know in what way that doesn't reflect a dominant culture.
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I would spend my time to doing so for other documents, however, an informal blog is not at the top of that list.
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I think the OP meant Maranello. But how can Mercedes-Benz be compared to Fiat?
Mercedes-Benz can be compared to FIAT, as what Mercedes is to Stuttgart is FIAT to Torino. Mercedes may be more noble than FIAT. And FIAT, which includes Alfa-Romeo, Lancia and Chrysler, is a very successful group of companies. And Torino, the historical Capital of Savoie-Piemonte-Sardinia and in the time of the Risorgimento the one of the Kingdom of Italy, is one of the more beautiful cities on this continent
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Old 14.12.2010, 21:14
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Mercedes-Benz can be compared to FIAT, as what Mercedes is to Stuttgart is FIAT to Torino. Mercedes may be more noble than FIAT. And FIAT, which includes Alfa-Romeo, Lancia and Chrysler, is a very successful group of companies. And Torino, the historical Capital of Savoie-Piemonte-Sardinia and in the time of the Risorgimento the one of the Kingdom of Italy, is one of the more beautiful cities on this continent
In contrast to Stuttgart which doesn't qualify as one of the most beautiful cities on the continent by a long stretch.
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Old 14.12.2010, 21:25
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America accommodates all types even the Swiss and their offspring.

http://rvtravel.com/blog/boondocking...-boo-boos.html
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