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Happened in Zurich, last week outside Amber club (Central)

Friend (woman,mid 40's,german) went to unpark outside Amber at about 10 o'clock at night-while she was doing that a woman was knocking on her window-she asked her what she wanted and the woman told her that she hit the car behind-she came out to see,didnt see anything and she left-went home and at 3 in the morning the police was at her door! opened the door they asked her to examine the car,went to the garage,they examined the car and then asked her to do alcohol test which she did! all these at home at 3 o'clock in the morning! test showed 0.8 although the woman had 2 glasses of prosecco and 1 campari some hours ago-she contacted lawyer next day who told her that the police has the right to do what they did-she wrote complain letter to the police and they sent her a generic document mentioning in which cases they have the right to do what they did-now she waits to see what happens as she doesnt know who accused her,of what,what was the problem with the other car,who is the owner of the other car.

Yes my friends...this is a nice aspect of swiss people...dont you agree?
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Happened in Zurich, last week outside Amber club (Central)

Friend (woman,mid 40's,german) went to unpark outside Amber at about 10 o'clock at night-while she was doing that a woman was knocking on her window-she asked her what she wanted and the woman told her that she hit the car behind-she came out to see,didnt see anything and she left-went home and at 3 in the morning the police was at her door! opened the door they asked her to examine the car,went to the garage,they examined the car and then asked her to do alcohol test which she did! all these at home at 3 o'clock in the morning! test showed 0.8 although the woman had 2 glasses of prosecco and 1 campari some hours ago-she contacted lawyer next day who told her that the police has the right to do what they did-she wrote complain letter to the police and they sent her a generic document mentioning in which cases they have the right to do what they did-now she waits to see what happens as she doesnt know who accused her,of what,what was the problem with the other car,who is the owner of the other car.

Yes my friends...this is a nice aspect of swiss people...dont you agree?
Or nice aspect of a stupid woman....

She went out of the car, had a look and left? She didn't talk about it to the other woman? Didn't take any informations? Didn't see what to do next?

If she had 3 drinks and few hours later, she still had 0.8 of alcohol, obviously, she shouldn't have drive...

That has nothing swiss in there, in my home country, we have the same laws...

Edit: Seeing it from the other woman's point of view (and probably the police as well), it is a hit and run under alcohol influence...
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Old 11.01.2011, 13:47
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

That's a rough situation.

Back home (in more northern parts) it's very common if one drinks-and-drives, to have a hidden flask on the person.

After refusing the breath-a-lizer, and on the way for a blood test, said person takes a swig from hidden flask and gets off without the criminal charges.
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That's a rough situation.

Back home (in more northern parts) it's very common if one drinks-and-drives, to have a hidden flask on the person.

After refusing the breath-a-lizer, and on the way for a blood test, said person takes a swig from hidden flask and gets off without the criminal charges.

urban myth, the police are well used to this trick and can work out how pissed you where at the time by blood tests
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Wait---did she have the alcohol before the alleged accdient, or within the time between the 'accident' and the cops showing up. In which case IMO they have no impaired driving basis.
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Old 11.01.2011, 13:53
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urban myth, the police are well used to this trick and can work out how pissed you where at the time by blood tests

Well perhaps the actual carrying of a flask and using while in custody is an urban myth.
But I know of a few cases personally where the police could not prove that alcohol was consumed before or after the accident, and therefore could not charge criminally.
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

I find the whole issue of a home breathalyser, hours after the event a real joke; and surely the results can't be admissible in any kind of legal capacity?
I've been no saint in my time, but as a rule will not drink, or only one beer, if I'm driving ... but when I get home, I'll crack open a couple and, when it's cold, have a wee niffter. So on this principle, plod can knock on my door, in the middle of the night, breath test me, and because some one saw me out driving hours before, then accuse me of drinking and driving?
If plod, in the case of your friend, is pursuing drunk-driving, then surely they haven't got a leg to stand on. She may need to consider a different lawyer.
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Happened in Zurich, last week outside Amber club (Central)

Friend (woman,mid 40's,german) went to unpark outside Amber at about 10 o'clock at night-while she was doing that a woman was knocking on her window-she asked her what she wanted and the woman told her that she hit the car behind-she came out to see,didnt see anything and she left-went home and at 3 in the morning the police was at her door! opened the door they asked her to examine the car,went to the garage,they examined the car and then asked her to do alcohol test which she did! all these at home at 3 o'clock in the morning! test showed 0.8 although the woman had 2 glasses of prosecco and 1 campari some hours ago-she contacted lawyer next day who told her that the police has the right to do what they did-she wrote complain letter to the police and they sent her a generic document mentioning in which cases they have the right to do what they did-now she waits to see what happens as she doesnt know who accused her,of what,what was the problem with the other car,who is the owner of the other car.

Yes my friends...this is a nice aspect of swiss people...dont you agree?
Are you sure its 0.8 and not 0.08??

Your "friend" is either fibbing about the amount of alcohol she consumed because 0.8 is 10 ten times the legal limit of many countries. And the test was done at 3am, I dread to think what it would have been then - unless she had a little party of her own when she got home.
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Happened in Zurich, last week outside Amber club (Central)

Friend (woman,mid 40's,german) went to unpark outside Amber at about 10 o'clock at night-while she was doing that a woman was knocking on her window-she asked her what she wanted and the woman told her that she hit the car behind-she came out to see,didnt see anything and she left-went home and at 3 in the morning the police was at her door! opened the door they asked her to examine the car,went to the garage,they examined the car and then asked her to do alcohol test which she did! all these at home at 3 o'clock in the morning! test showed 0.8 although the woman had 2 glasses of prosecco and 1 campari some hours ago-she contacted lawyer next day who told her that the police has the right to do what they did-she wrote complain letter to the police and they sent her a generic document mentioning in which cases they have the right to do what they did-now she waits to see what happens as she doesnt know who accused her,of what,what was the problem with the other car,who is the owner of the other car.

Yes my friends...this is a nice aspect of swiss people...dont you agree?
I honestly do not see what that has to do with Swiss people Your friend was drinking, couldn't move her car without hitting someone else's, was informed about this but chose to ignore it ("didnt see anything"), and now gets all in a tiff because the police actually followed up on the complaint.
What would your opinion be if it was your or your friend's car which had been hit by someone who had obviously been drinking?
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Old 11.01.2011, 14:07
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

Read all about it....

A drunk woman has accident and is too drunk to realise:

A woman over the drink-drive limit gets into her car and whilst leaving a car park, and manages to reverse into another car without realising.

She refuses to accept that she has done this and does not swap details for insurance as required by law.
Instead, she drives off.

The other person rightly calls the Police who breath-test the woman and still find her over the limit several hours later.

Why is this for everyone's information? To warn us about the perils of drink-driving?
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

the comment about swiss people has to do with the fact that a strange woman reported her in the police for hitting the car whilst unparking, thats the point. It was concidered hit and run maybe by the police but that was not what happened. She didnt hit the other car,she didnt have any scratch at hers. If a strange tells you that you hit the car behind and you see that you didnt, what you are suppose to do??
For God sakes, the sense of community and the habbit to interfere with every ones business and involve the authorities are two completely different things!
And we are not talking about a drunko here. She is a top employ in CS and went for after work drink
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the comment about swiss people has to do with the fact that a strange woman reported her in the police for hitting the car whilst unparking, thats the point. It was concidered hit and run maybe by the police but that was not what happened. She didnt hit the other car,she didnt have any scratch at hers. If a strange tells you that you hit the car behind and you see that you didnt, what you are suppose to do??
For God sakes, the sense of community and the habbit to interfere with every ones business and involve the authorities are two completely different things!
And we are not talking about a drunko here. She is a top employ in CS and went for after work drink
A witness claims she hit another car. She drove off, witness calls police. That's hit and run.

Perhaps witness was wrong, but she was wrong to leave.

Did the police find evidence her car made contact with another?

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the comment about swiss people has to do with the fact that a strange woman reported her in the police for hitting the car whilst unparking, thats the point. It was concidered hit and run maybe by the police but that was not what happened. She didnt hit the other car,she didnt have any scratch at hers. If a strange tells you that you hit the car behind and you see that you didnt, what you are suppose to do??
For God sakes, the sense of community and the habbit to interfere with every ones business and involve the authorities are two completely different things!
And we are not talking about a drunko here. She is a top employ in CS and went for after work drink
Doesn't matter who she is, she can be the Queen, if she drank 3 glasses in a few hours, she is off limit for alcohol test.

That someone who saw her and told her was perhaps the owner of the other car? And if you see someone doing something illegal, or bumping into someone's else car, you won't say anything? Maybe her cars didn't have scratch, but it doesn't mean the other car didn't.

Were you there? were you a witness? Did you see both cars?
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...She is a top employ in CS and went for after work drink
thats why the law doesnt apply to her?
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

O.k. fair enough - she didn't notice any damage or scratches to her car. I used to drive a Land Rover Discovery and would also not have noticed any damage to my car, even if the damage to somebody else's was evident.

I now drive a mini and would be very much aware of somebody scraping around my bumpers, if you'll pardon the expression.

She's not going to get blasted for this, but the police are within their rights to follow through on this type of complaint. It's obvious that the other person noted her registration number and, as a rule, "Swiss people" don't do that just for the hell of it
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Re: real story: for everybody's information!

me was not there
i was just kind of shocked with this story putting myself in her position?
what i could that i dont even speak the languange
first of all maybe i would even be afraid to get out (if i know that i didnt hit any car)
even if i would go out and had an argument in swiss german if i hit a car or not -not with the car owner- and i am sure i didnt hit the other, what i was suppose to do?? call the police to prove the whitness that i didnt hit the car?
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the comment about swiss people has to do with the fact that a strange woman reported her in the police for hitting the car whilst unparking, thats the point. It was concidered hit and run maybe by the police but that was not what happened. She didnt hit the other car,she didnt have any scratch at hers. If a strange tells you that you hit the car behind and you see that you didnt, what you are suppose to do??
For God sakes, the sense of community and the habbit to interfere with every ones business and involve the authorities are two completely different things!
And we are not talking about a drunko here. She is a top employ in CS and went for after work drink
This statement would have held more weight, if not for the fact that she tested 0.8 (!!!) at 3am in the morning.

I see nothing wrong with a SOBER witness calling the police if the offender denied any damage and driving off. Its the word of someone who has had 3 drinks (might be even more) against the word of a sober witness.

Sorry, but the fact that your friend has been tested positive for alcohol, and at such a high level at that, rips any credibility she might have to shreds.
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the comment about swiss people has to do with the fact that a strange woman reported her in the police for hitting the car whilst unparking, thats the point. It was concidered hit and run maybe by the police but that was not what happened. She didnt hit the other car,she didnt have any scratch at hers. If a strange tells you that you hit the car behind and you see that you didnt, what you are suppose to do??
Just curious, in what way was the "strange woman" strange according to the drunk foreign woman?
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Happened in Zurich, last week outside Amber club (Central)

Friend (woman,mid 40's,german) went to unpark outside Amber at about 10 o'clock at night-while she was doing that a woman was knocking on her window-she asked her what she wanted and the woman told her that she hit the car behind-she came out to see.....etc.etc.
...I knew this story wasn't real to begin with. (LIB ducks for cover)
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I think it would be wise to advise all chicks to STAY IN THE CAR if someone comes tapping and asking you to get out at that time of night. In a case like this tell the accuser to call the cops and wait until they're there. If they don't call and abruptly leave, well, go home and have a drink.
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