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Old 21.01.2011, 15:01
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Organ donation or scientific research?

It seems that in CH you can't do both. I'd like to give as many bits and pieces that can be of use to others when I pop my clogs (ski boots) - and then give my body to scientific research. I've been told I can't do both - and must choose between one or the other. So far I err towards organ donation.
Can anybody help me make my mind up, please?
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Old 21.01.2011, 15:03
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It seems that in CH you can't do both. I'd like to give as many bits and pieces that can be of use to others when I pop my clogs (ski boots) - and then give my body to scientific research. I've been told I can't do both - and must choose between one or the other. So far I err towards organ donation.
Can anybody help me make my mind up, please?


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Old 21.01.2011, 15:11
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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

Would you care to clarify please? (perhaps in some parts of the world where organs are still sold).
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Old 21.01.2011, 16:24
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In Switzerland, we miss Organ donors so I guess you would be welcome, in case.....

I have myself my card, but it seems that law should change and everybody will become a donor but if they have clearly said they did want.
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Old 21.01.2011, 16:37
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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

I always thought that if you are an organ donor, your body is given back to your family for burial after all the useful 'elements' have been taken.

Wheareas if you donate your body to science, they obviously keep it and use it (medical students, etc.). Therefore, no burial/cremation will be possible.
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That would be absolutely fine by me. I have no desire whatsoever to be buried or cremated. What I'd like to be able to do, is to give any organs that may be of use, then the rest for scientific research. What they do afterwards is of no concern to me. My OH and children understand this.
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I'd definitely recommend making donation the number one option, as the need is much greater. Only a small portion of people who die are suitable donors, as many types of death render donation impossible. They generally can only take organs from people who are already in hospital and are brain dead, and have no other medical issues that would be a risk for the recipient. This is why transplant numbers are so low even though registered organ donors are dying all the time: the vast majority of cadavers aren't in good enough condition to collect organs from. The only people I know of who have actually donated their organs have either had a stroke or been in a car accident, and once their vegetative state was established a decision was made by the family to pull the plug, and their organs were collected. If your body is riddled with cancer, or if you die of a heart attack in the middle of the night and are cold by morning, your organs can't be used. This is why increasing the donor participation rate is so important: on the rare occasion that someone is actually medically suitable to become a donor, if they aren't registered as a donor their organs will go into the crematorium as opposed to another person, and that is a shame. One could double the amount of organ transplants in a year and hardly make a dent in the number of bodies available to science if only more people became donors.

I would assume that one can register as a donor, and you can specify in your will that if your cause of death renders you unsuitable as a donor (say you die of a heart attack or cancer), then your body can go to science. Signing an organ donation card doesn't preclude you from giving your body to science, it only precludes you from giving your body to science if you died in a way that allowed your organs to be used for transplantation. So if you are an donor first and a scientific donor second, whatever happens to you in the end, someone will benefit. And most the most likely outcome is that your body will be used for science, but if you save someone's life, it's definitely worth signing that card.

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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

It depends on what scientific research entails.

As I'd guess that it's generally for medical students to dissect I'd stick with the organ donation (= bias against self-important med students). Possibly though if you cop it miles away from a hospital and when they roll you in and your innards are all past their sell buy date you could be moved down to the med school anyway and do your bit for the next generation of doctors?
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Self important or not - I'd rather medical students practised on cadavers before their have a go at me or mine.
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Self important or not - I'd rather medical students practised on cadavers before their have a go at me or mine.
Hmm, that is a good point...

Can we just do something about the smugness though.
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Hmm, that is a good point...

Can we just do something about the smugness though.
Get a tattoo, that sais: "anyone who uses my body for science is not allowed to me smug afterwards, thank you."
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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

If those of us who are potentially mad cows becasue we ate beef in the UK and therefore prevented from donating blood can we donate organs or are they refused too?
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That's a valid point.
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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

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It seems that in CH you can't do both. I'd like to give as many bits and pieces that can be of use to others when I pop my clogs (ski boots) - and then give my body to scientific research. I've been told I can't do both - and must choose between one or the other. So far I err towards organ donation.
Can anybody help me make my mind up, please?
It is fairly easy. If you never had a severe illness, do not drink much alcohol and do not smoke, to become a donor makes sense.

I upon having survived cancer in 1988 (4 years after my 2 years older brother who then passed away in 1994) I "opened my files" for the international cancer research, which means that the scientists in charge, who have me with a kind of identification-code, know all details about me permanently. My doctor told me after having been at a congress of doctors that his colleagues from around the globe wished me to become 120 as I was a delight for them from a scientific point-of-view. I replied that I regarded life as delightful and would love to oblige, or in the words of Air France "toujours ŕ votre service" !
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Re: Organ donation or scientific research?

I was going to start a new thread but I just saw this one so decided to add to it. I hope I don't offend the OP by hijacking this thread. I have one further question to Organ donation. Having carried a organ donor card for most of my adult life and also donating blood on an irregular basis I have now started thinking about the possibility of Living organ donation.

What are peoples view on donating a kidney to either a family member or indeed a stranger while still being alive?

I've being thinking about this quite a lot the last month and have thought about the pros and cons of donating to a stranger. But overall I think it would be an amazing thing to be able to give another human being a 2nd chance in life. That doesn't mean I am going to go out tomorrow and donate, but I am going to think about it some more and maybe sometime in the future who knows.

Information can be found here for Switzerland Living organ
http://www.nephro-basel.ch/de/english.html

There is also a good story here of donor and receioent in the USA

I'd like to hear peoples views on this.
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