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Old 23.01.2011, 10:08
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Re: Constrasting realities: who´s wrong

I'll only reply to nb1 and nb2.. your aquaintance must be joking.

I lived in Geneva most of my life. Even 20 years ago it was next to impossible to find a house for less than 3000.-- SFr.

- Deposit is 3 months in Suisse Romande. It's the norm
- For 3000.-- SFr one can find a flat, if there is one to be found.
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Keep your aim very wide. Check out the canton of Vaud and consider the commute. It might be easier.

Differences between cantons in regards to renting real estate:
- a 5 room flat in Geneva means 1 kitchen, 1 living room + 3 bedrooms
- a 5 room flat in Nyon or Lausanne (Vaud) means 1 living room, 4 bedrooms + 1 kitchen, but the kitchen is not counted as part of the equation so it actually means 1 room more.
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Old 23.01.2011, 10:58
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I'll only reply to nb1 and nb2.. your aquaintance must be joking.

I lived in Geneva most of my life. Even 20 years ago it was next to impossible to find a house for less than 3000.-- SFr.

- Deposit is 3 months in Suisse Romande. It's the norm
- For 3000.-- SFr one can find a flat, if there is one to be found.
The Forum is completely correct

Keep your aim very wide. Check out the canton of Vaud and consider the commute. It might be easier.

Differences between cantons in regards to renting real estate:
- a 5 room flat in Geneva means 1 kitchen, 1 living room + 3 bedrooms
- a 5 room flat in Nyon or Lausanne (Vaud) means 1 living room, 4 bedrooms + 1 kitchen, but the kitchen is not counted as part of the equation so it actually means 1 room more.
a 5 room flat in Zürich means 1 bathroom (incl toilet), 1 kitchen and 5 other rooms (real apartment rooms). A high percentage (possibly a majority) also have one or two balconies, which are counted in regard to the square-meters.

To find a house inside the City of Zurich or the nearer outer suburbs is practically impossible.
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Re: Constrasting realities: who´s wrong

I lived in France before coming to Lausanne and I think the clothes there are cheaper. Happened to notice last trip to France that a Maje dress that is 520 CHF in Lausanne was 249 Euros - it's a French brand but that's a ridiculous markup.

I don't mind paying a bit extra as the salaries here are better but that's a complete rip-off and I don't understand how it can be justified.
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Re: Constrasting realities: who´s wrong

i find that clothing can be cheaper in france, but not in paris. for example, visiting the smaller cities or countryside, when we visit family in brittany or the north west france, prices are much cheaper. when in paris, it is pretty much the same price, give or take a bit.
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I lived in France before coming to Lausanne and I think the clothes there are cheaper. Happened to notice last trip to France that a Maje dress that is 520 CHF in Lausanne was 249 Euros - it's a French brand but that's a ridiculous markup.
It's pretty much in line with many clothing brands' pricing policies: They simply multiply the price in Euros by two - voilŕ: the price in CHF!
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Re: Contrasting realities: who's wrong

It all depends where you live in Switzerland. Near cities, housing is more expensive. The farther away it is from a popular spot, the cheaper it gets.
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It all depends where you live in Switzerland. Near cities, housing is more expensive. The farther away it is from a popular spot, the cheaper it gets.
That's exactly right. And the reason we changed our plan from looking at somewhere between Kirchberg-Horgen to a broader view, and ended up in Richterswil.... But with an actual house with garden and view, in walking distance of the train station. Our budget in f.e. Thalwil would probably have given us a 4 room apartment in a very ugly building....
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Re: Contrasting realities: who's wrong

Thanks Sky.

It seems "contrasting realities" should have been "construing realities." The more I look--I searched around today, comparing apartment prices in the cantons of Geneva and Vaud--the clearer I see how my acquaintance´s view (of rental prices certainly) is skewed. It´s the same all over, really: prices, value. I have already made several moves in my life, following my wife´s career, and if there´s anything I´ve learned it´s that the market is smarter than the individual (of course, individuals make up the market, but what equation goes into determining the value of something is beyond the grasp of most of us).

My pocketbook is already in Vaud.

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