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How little is too little and how much is too much?
Anyone who earns more than me is to be resented as an overpaid, spoilt parasite feeding upon the sweat of the honest working man, who toils in misery to fund the expensive holidays, fancy cars and posh dinners of his toadlike overlords, always labouring in the knowledge that without his rich masters he wouldn't be able to eat, clothe himself or find shelter.

Anyone who earns less than me is to be despised for being a miserable pauper, who probably smells bad, feeds his children toenail clippings for breakfast and who really ought to be in the workhouse rather than blocking the aisles in Denner when I pop in to buy a bottle of cheap plonk to decant into the empty bottle of posh plonk I was given for Christmas in 1998.

How much I earn, of course, despite being the determining factor in how much I feel entitled to resent or despise you, must remain secret. All you need to know, therefore, is that I dislike you thoroughly however much you earn.

*******s, the lot of you!
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

C'mon DB - what's that quote from Mr. Micawber?
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

I consider rich to define the state when an increased income will not change your style of life?
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C'mon DB - what's that quote from Mr. Micawber?
Which one? This one?

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Welcome poverty!..Welcome misery, welcome houselessness, welcome hunger, rags, tempest, and beggary! Mutual confidence will sustain us to the end!
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

Sorry, should have made it clear.
More coming in than going out = happiness
More going out that coming in = despair.
And honestly I did try to find it... here

Of course, I could have the wrong book; or even the wrong author...
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Sorry, should have made it clear.
More coming in than going out = happiness
More going out that coming in = despair.
And honestly I did try to find it... here

Of course, I could have the wrong book; or even the wrong author...

Ah! That explains it! "Nineteen pounds, nineteen and six... &c"

No wonder I'm always in a state of despair... my expenditure is significantly more than twenty pounds a month...
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

I think that the definition of whether you're rich or poor is completely relative: two people may earn the same amount and one feel poor and one not.

I think it depends on what your priorities are.

I think that if you earn enough money to pay your rent and insurance, have a good diet, drink merlot , socialise AND save 10% of your wages each month, you're not poor.

It really depends on how you socialise though. If your only way of having a good time is going out clubbing or to cocktail bars and getting smashed 3 times a week, or often eating out at expensive restaurants then you would of course need a lot of money to do this!

If you, however, like having good friends round for dinner and drinks, nights in with the OH with a bottle of wine, picnics by the lake etc (in summer of course :P) this wouldn't cost very much at all.

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I consider rich to define the state when an increased income will not change your style of life?
I really like that as a definition of rich.

What about a definition for poor that is similar?
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I think that the definition of whether you're rich or poor is completely relative: two people may earn the same amount and one feel poor and one not.

I think it depends on what your priorities are.

I think that if you earn enough money to pay your rent and insurance, have a good diet, drink merlot , socialise AND save 10% of your wages each month, you're not poor.

It really depends on how you socialise though. If your only way of having a good time is going out clubbing or to cocktail bars and getting smashed 3 times a week, or often eating out at expensive restaurants then you would of course need a lot of money to do this!

If you, however, like having good friends round for dinner and drinks, nights in with the OH with a bottle of wine, picnics by the lake etc (in summer of course :P) this wouldn't cost very much at all.

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This is just my humble 'british' opinion though :P
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

Stupid Question: What is Canton Congo?
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

Thanks to DB and Mr Micawber (David Copperfield - Charles Dickens)

"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
It isn't quite the same thing as rich and poor but basically it shows the direction. Once debts start to occur, the road is definitely downhill. Paying more for accomodation that one can really afford is the downhill push-off for some people here.

For me, poor is having to think twice (or three times) before you buy ANYTHING. Rich is the situation where you can decide what you 'need' and buy it if you fancy it. There's quite a big range in between and probably most of us belong in there.
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Stupid Question: What is Canton Congo?
A picture can explain it better than a thousand words:

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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

you're all so sentimental

here's the breakdown

poor = gross income less than 60k/year

rich = gross income in excess of 750k/year


everything in between is so so.
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

Rich means you can afford to go to the dentist here, poor means you take a trip to Budapest.
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Poor - someone who is able to afford a new one of these and has a professional crew to fly one round in it
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Rich - someone who can afford a second-hand one of these, but flies it themself
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Beyond Tawdry Wordly Wealth - someone who understands what's really important in life (viz. a tailskid)
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

Okay how about this as a set of definitions after having given it some thought:

1. Rich is when your passive income is greater than your living expenses.

2. Poor is when your active income is less than your living expenses.
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

If you have enough money that you don't have to constantly think about it, that's rich enough.

Ironically, the really rich get that way by thinking about it, obsessing about it, above all else. Which begs the question, are they really rich?
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

This thread is hilarious. I feel like I am listening in on a conversation between my (grown) children.

Y'all are confusing rich and wealthy.

Rich: You shop by brand name, not by price tag.
Wealthy: You don't shop. The last time you bought a consumer item was 1983--unless it was for your dog.

Rich: You read fancy travel magazines to decide where you are going on your next vacation or where you might buy your next vacation home.
Wealthy: You own a little publishing company that prints fancy travel magazines. Your vacations are all spent in a draughty chateau in a town that bears your mother's maiden name.

Rich: You go to the car show in Geneva to drool over the latest models and start searching the internet for a way to buy your favorite for less than the outrageous retail price.
Wealthy: You send a man out every morning to start up your 1976 Silver Cloud to warm it up. You smoke in your car. On the way to your appointment with your private banker.

Must I go on? Because I can if you need me to.
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Ironically, the really rich get that way by thinking about it, obsessing about it, above all else. Which begs the question, are they really rich?
This is absolutely not true. Wealthy people never obsess about money. Never. It's beyond gauche.
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Re: What is your definition of Rich and Poor in Switzerland?

The helicopter is in the hangar, needs an avionics update. Have you seen the price of fuel? It costs a fortune to fly over all the poor people caught up in their ordinary vehicles down there in miniature land as we whisk by overhead.

Spare a shekel for the ex. pauper guv?
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