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Old 05.02.2011, 13:24
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In the interests of fair disclosure, I should declare that I'm fat. I might even be obese, but I've never been bothered to check.
And I thought you looked like Paul Whitehouse, after a night at a private girls' school.
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Here are a few obese ones for you. I don't think anyone here on EF looks like this:
I feel like the woman on the far right most of the time shape-wise. There are much fatter women out there but I'm pretty large compared to the people not on the photo. I really need to find something different to deal with stress and unhappiness than food. I guess this is another factor, my Swiss workmates say stuff like 'Man, I feel stressed, I think I'll go to the gym after work'.
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Old 05.02.2011, 17:40
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Re: Swiss women are the slimmest in Europe and British women are....

To be honest Kittster, I think you see yourself as much bigger than what you are. Honestly, when I've seen you I've seen a tall lass but certainly not an obese one.
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Re: Swiss women are the slimmest in Europe and British women are....

I think it all has to do with the beer. In Britain, the beer is fantastic. In America, the beer is cheap. In Switzerland, it is neither.

I agree about the food prices... if you can afford to eat plenty of meat, cheese, and other great food then you will.
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Two bars of choclate a day is what doctor adviced me to take.
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I think it all has to do with the beer. In Britain, the beer is fantastic. In America, the beer is cheap. In Switzerland, it is neither.
You've never made it further west than Milwaukee, have you? Northwest microbrews are excellent beers! Oddly enough, with all the mountains and outdoor pursuits in the Northwest, people are very fit despite the delicious beer. Check out http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/ and http://www.bridgeportbrew.com/ Yum!!
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I think it all has to do with the beer. In Britain, the beer is fantastic. In America, the beer is cheap. In Switzerland, it is neither.

I agree about the food prices... if you can afford to eat plenty of meat, cheese, and other great food then you will.
So how do you explain that obesity in the US and UK is very often a class thing. The rich and powerful are very rarely obese. Most communities were obesity is really a big (!) problem are poor.
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So how do you explain that obesity in the US and UK is very often a class thing. The rich and powerful are very rarely obese. Most communities were obesity is really a big (!) problem are poor.
I would agree with this and I am not sure if it comes down to greater awareness v ignorance, or what, as it has been proven that one can eat good wholesome food just as cheaply as convenience rubbish.
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I feel like the woman on the far right most of the time shape-wise. There are much fatter women out there but I'm pretty large compared to the people not on the photo. I really need to find something different to deal with stress and unhappiness than food. I guess this is another factor, my Swiss workmates say stuff like 'Man, I feel stressed, I think I'll go to the gym after work'.
It's difficult no doubt about it. Especially emotional eating. We all take a binge sometimes, and other times its hard to control. Weight loss is like any other habit-it takes time. Don't worry yourself about it. Whenever you get that "will" together you'll drop the extra pounds or kilos. I think a problem many of us go through is we try to eat the same as when we were younger. As we get older the body doesn't need as much food, and definently not the same amount of calories. Then comes the bellies, wide hips...LOL
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I love THAT old picture, it reminds me of some old nieghbours back in the UK.
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Where did you live? (God I hope you were not my next door neighbour)!
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Old 05.02.2011, 20:12
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I think it is also due to the idea of multi course meal. While normally people have a piece of fruit or a bit of a salad, it was only UK that I remember people went throught the pain of sittin through the usual main meal, salad and a sweet desert. In the US, it was the apetizer, that elsewhere would actually be just a main meal, adn then the rest of it, with the super sweet oversize late.A snack was a giant bagel with ton of other things served with it. Sweet drinks, meal counting food that is presented just as a "little something", "something tiny for the sweet tooth" or whatever other corny phrase, that actually means 600cal heavy duty thing. Even the veggie or fruit smoothies are actually meal worthy, but people don't realize that since it's the health hype thing.

People are thin, but I am not sure how healthy it really means. To hang with people who obsess about body weight gets annoying, as much as it is to hang with some hypochondriacs. There is nothing nicer than to have a decent bite, and do some physical activity with chill people. So far I have seen extreme amounts of very thin people, and I admire the self control (or not willing to spend so much cach on food). But we have no idea if they are healthy. Especially the chicks surviving on cigs and red bulls. What irks me that the standard meal portion for a 4yr old translates into 3 table spoons of pasta, in our local creche. That's just being stingy.



Is it really society? Or chicks who buy into this...
A) Multi-course meals ? You see in the statistics that exactly French women show up as fairly slim. Exactly a nation where meals consist of various courses, but generally relatively small portions, and decent breaks in between. If you are guest in a traditional French household on a Sunday at 12.30, the meal likely will go on until 3pm, with breaks, but with up to 6 different courses, three sorts of wines and some digestif at the end.

B) obsessed about body weight is not really what Swiss people are. This is NOT the reason. But apparently, the lifestyle, by which Swiss women when going shopping love to walk around (in open air) to have a look at the shop-windows, at new shops and new cafés etc, and of course walking around, is better to the health as I might have expected

C) what went wrong in Britain ? I remember the early 70ies when "British cuisine" (an oxymoron in itself) was something to be described by "flavoured water + vinegar" . Later on, the upper class in Britain and intelligent people in Britain, started into a love affair with Indian cuisine, Italian cuisine, and Italian and Spanish wines, the "lower classes" (whatever this is) went into a love-affair with hamburgers and other US-fastfood. This, combined with good but calories-rich British beer and traditionally excellent English confectionary, inevitably results in a "calories-bomb" ! That there in Britain in the years in between has been a kind of rebirth of traditonal English cuisine, often combined with imported delicatessies, did not help the "masses". --- If you want to check my ideas up, go to places like Malta and watch the British tourists. Why are those Brits in the expensive hotels and in the good restaurants slim and trained and good looking ? and those in "tourist spots" and "fast-food outlets" looking like the human remains of their grand-parents ?
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Re: Swiss women are the slimmest in Europe and British women are....

I used the term nieghbour loosley! We used to live in Reigate, but when we over crossed the border into Redhill THAT picture reminded me of some of the slimmer females there.
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The food culture/education plays an important role here. I like to remember an old story in a small italian city where McDonald was forced to close because of the excellent bread, pizza, focaccia made by local shops.
In the 50s war was between the priest Don Camillo and the communist mayor Peppone. Today it's good & healthy food against the fast food culture.
You have made my day. There is hope for the future if these things can happen. Grew up in the USA and McD's hasn't been worth eating for more than two decades.
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Re: Swiss women are the slimmest in Europe and British women are....

But are they the healthiest? Happiest?

I think smoking probably has something to do with it.

In the 50's when my mother gave birth to my sister, in the UK, the doctor told her to take up smoking to lose weight.

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But are they the healthiest? Happiest?

I think smoking probably has something to do with it.

In the 50's when my mother gave birth to my sister, in the UK, the doctor told her to take up smoking to lose weight.

Here we go again - shifting the blame onto something else. Do people really believe that the world-wide obesity epidemic is due to smoking cessation?

All of the Swiss women whom I know who are of normal weight are non-smokers.
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I'd ask the question differently ' are the slimmest, healthiest '?

There is no question that being obese has multiple risks for health. Diabetes, joint damage, heart problems, and it seems now clear, some cancers and all sort of nasties. So I can't go with the 'jolly and happy, obese is wonderful'. I look at Dawn French, and think how long can you survive this and keep the 'jolly' image **ap. However, I know many young women who are very slim, thin even, and who have a very unhealthy lifestyle, little exercise, or too much exercise spending hours in the gym or running endlessly, very poor diet with risks of osteoporosis- and who keep thin with fags, barbs or even cocaine derivatives.

Soon we will have two main types - the obese and the far too skinny- neither being good for health. It is clear that a slightly chubby person, with a good diet and exercise regime, can be indeed very fit and healthy. And so can a slightly underweight person. Weight/looks per se are not indicative of good health.
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This is a very beautiful picture, you should use it for your avatar! It would fit you well!

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