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Wangen and Dubendorf

Hi all,

I am expecting a job offer to work for Skyguide at their facility near Zurich (I believe it is in Wangen?)

Not being terribly familiar with Switzerland, I have found this forum to be extremely helpful.

I have read the Sticky and appreciated the information it contained. I would like to also ask a couple of questions as well.

I have visited the homegate website many times, but it does not have a listing for Wangen, so I have been using Dubendorf to get an idea of rental homes for a family of four. Would the prices I find in Dubendorf be comparable to Wangen?

Thanks for the information.!
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Re: Wangen and Dübendorf

The Zürich facility of Skyguide is indeed located in Wangen between a highway and the Dübendorf military airfield. Living in Wangen is not a must, it's closer to the facility but Dübendorf is not that far away and there are bus connections as well as a bicycle lane between Dübendorf and Wangen.

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Would the prices I find in Dubendorf be comparable to Wangen?
Rental apartments in Wangen tend to be more expensive than in Dübendorf. Most buildings in Wangen are condominiums or single family houses, i.e., there is not much of a rental market. In addition, many locations in Wangen have great views while Dübendorf has almost no hills. Dübendorf has also more noise due to many main roads, railway lines, some industrial facilities and air traffic from/to Zürich airport.

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P.S.: Are you sure it's a good idea to work for a state-owned company like Skyguide?
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Re: Wangen and Dubendorf

Thanks for the quick reply. I currently work ATC in Canada and have a few friends who moved to Geneva to work with Skyguide. The live in Nyon, I think or possibly Lausanne.

What are the issues with Skyguide? Can it be worse than FAA or Nav Canada, which are essentially state run operations - especially the FAA. Any information to make my decision easier would be helpful. I'm note quite sure of the salary range, but my colleagues who work there seem to have great salaries and benefits. To give you an indication, the top Canadian salary is about $150 CDN.

Getting back to the areas, I seem to take from your post that Dubendorf would be the better location? Are there areas on the outskirts that have homes with good schools, some recreational activities, etc?

Thanks!!!
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Thanks for the quick reply. I currently work ATC in Canada and have a few friends who moved to Geneva to work with Skyguide. The live in Nyon, I think or possibly Lausanne.

What are the issues with Skyguide? Can it be worse than FAA or Nav Canada, which are essentially state run operations - especially the FAA. Any information to make my decision easier would be helpful. I'm note quite sure of the salary range, but my colleagues who work there seem to have great salaries and benefits. To give you an indication, the top Canadian salary is about $150 CDN.
It all depends on your prospective position within Skyguide. Are you an air traffic controller or a bureaucrat?
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Getting back to the areas, I seem to take from your post that Dubendorf would be the better location? Are there areas on the outskirts that have homes with good schools, some recreational activities, etc?
Wangen – despite of some downsides, i.e. noise from the nearby highways and its sub-par public transport (in particular no train station, i.e. living in Wangen without a car or maybe even two cars for a family is challenging), Wangen is usually preferred to Dübendorf. Many Skyguide employees settle in Dübendorf and other neighboring towns and villages nevertheless since the rental market there is more active. Recreational activities are usually not an issue in Dübendorf while the schools are probably mostly under average due to a high ratio of students with lacking German skills. Exceptions are Gfenn (although there's only a primary school) and Gockhausen (with aircraft noise in the early morning and often in the evening).

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Re: Wangen and Dubendorf

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Let us know which kind of schools You're expecting. Which age, local or international (English/French)?
I live in Duebendorf (quite close to Wangen actually), and I like it here. Very good connections to Zurich center (9-14min train ride, trains every 15min), excellent shopping possibilities (IKEA nearby, biggest food supermarkets, Media Markt, sports - all in the same area) in Dietlikon.
General suggestion - try to get a temporary rental for about 3 months, and take time to find a place you like. Arranging rentals take time here, and arranging everything in several days is almost impossible.
I recommend immo.search.ch for looking at the offers. Try also to ask people at Skyguide to support - there might be some people moving there, posting offers internally. Such offers are usually easier to get, and tend to tick many boxes for people working in the company.
Good luck!
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Re: Wangen and Dubendorf

Hi again,

I'm currently a controller for the last 20 years or so. I'm looking for a change and saw that Skyguide is looking for controllers for operational and instructor positions.

I'd just like to finish out my career in a beautiful place of the world where I can see a new part of the world.

I've been reading through these forums and Gfenn (Griefensee, I assume?) seems very nice and the prices are fairly attractive. But I need an elementary school for my two young teens.

What areas do you recommend that are within easy commuting distance, but fairly reasonable for rentals? Nightlife is not really a concern as we don't go to pubs very often. We do have an active Bernese Mountain dog though, so somewhere that we can walk her in a nice area would be great!
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Hi,
Let us know which kind of schools You're expecting. Which age, local or international (English/French)?
I live in Duebendorf (quite close to Wangen actually), and I like it here. Very good connections to Zurich center (9-14min train ride, trains every 15min), excellent shopping possibilities (IKEA nearby, biggest food supermarkets, Media Markt, sports - all in the same area) in Dietlikon.
General suggestion - try to get a temporary rental for about 3 months, and take time to find a place you like. Arranging rentals take time here, and arranging everything in several days is almost impossible.
I recommend immo.search.ch for looking at the offers. Try also to ask people at Skyguide to support - there might be some people moving there, posting offers internally. Such offers are usually easier to get, and tend to tick many boxes for people working in the company.
Good luck!
Marcin
Thanks for the suggestions! My kids are bilingual English and French, but I think I would prefer an English school. I think Skyguide does provide help with relocation in terms of furnishing allowance etc.

Dubendorf does sound like a nice area!
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