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Old 18.02.2011, 14:39
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Urimat: Good idea?

I've noticed "Urimats" (water-less urinals) becoming more and more popular in public rest-rooms around Switzerland (looks like it's a Swiss company). Is it just my bad luck, or does every rest-room that has urimats smells like a dead fish? I get the general idea, that if you multiply x number of urinals by y number of liters of water, then wow, look at all the water being saved. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for being eco-friendly, but well, indoor plumbing was invented for a reason, and I think this is one of them. I guess we could also just go back to peeing in buckets and throwing them out the window once a day too, but I guess we have to draw a line somewhere. I think urimat is walking that line.

PS- For our female population who has never seen a urimat (or maybe any urinal at all):
http://urimat.de/cms/cms/front_content.php?changelang=5

PPS- I do think the advertising idea is brilliant, I mean they do have a captive customer for 30 seconds or so, may as well exploit it.
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Old 18.02.2011, 14:45
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

I was looking for the "don't really care much either way, I'm not there for long" option, but couldn't find it ...
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Old 18.02.2011, 14:48
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I was looking for the "don't really care much either way, I'm not there for long" option, but couldn't find it ...
Sorry, it's a black and white world I'm living in. Pick a side. "You're either with us or you're against us"
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Old 18.02.2011, 14:52
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

I like the idea of not using water. But I havn't experienced them working too well as mentioned above.

In countries where water conservation is important, they would be useful. But in countries like here where, countless fountains run constantly, I'd prefer a uninal with a rinse.
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Old 18.02.2011, 14:55
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

We have one at work and i have managed to have just the opposite experience. Maybe we have decent ventilation but ours don't smell and I appreciate not having to touch the flushing bar.
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Old 18.02.2011, 14:59
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But in countries like here where, countless fountains run constantly, I'd prefer a uninal with a rinse.
Good point. Never thought of that. There's thousands of these water fountains everywhere, then you go pee in a waterless urinal. Very Swiss. Kind of like everyone has to be quiet after 10pm and on Sunday, but the church bells can go nuts day and night.

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Good point. Never thought of that. There's thousands of these water fountains everywhere, then you go pee in a waterless urinal. Very Swiss.
No, very logical actually.

Fountain = tax payer's money.
Urimat = restaurant owner's money saved.

In other words - would city councils use the tax money as carefully as a restaurant owner uses his own money... well, we guessed that before didn't we...
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Old 18.02.2011, 15:22
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

I first read this as Aromat: Good Idea?
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Old 18.02.2011, 15:25
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

So its basicly a toilet without any water to flush.. so just a pipe down the sewer and thats it?

Has to smell.. yuk...
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Old 18.02.2011, 15:34
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So its basicly a toilet without any water to flush.. so just a pipe down the sewer and thats it?
Not quite. The thing itself has a nano coating with "lotus effect"


Then it has some "valve" at the end that should cover the downpipe when not in use.
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

you see them in about every gas station in Germany. I don't have the experience that they are smelling.
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

they do not smell...until everybody's aim is good...
the rest depends on how often you clean the surroundings.
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they do not smell...until everybody's aim is good...
the rest depends on how often you clean the surroundings.

I think the smell has to do with the drainage U-bend. Convential appliances use a bit of liquid here (the last of the flush liquid) to stop sewer gases from coming up. Not sure how these new fixtures work, but if they use a similar system, it would be a pool of urine sitting in open air.
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Not sure how these new fixtures work, but if they use a similar system, it would be a pool of urine sitting in open air.
Let me google that for you. I already mentioned that they have a valve that closes...



I guess the yellow coloring... never mind.
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Let me google that for you. I already mentioned that they have a valve that closes...



I guess the yellow coloring... never mind.
Wait, it uses electricity? This thing is not as "green" as I thought. Actually, judging by the picture it looks more "yellow" than "green"
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Old 18.02.2011, 17:18
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

"Save water, save the nature" is a great slogan to sell your items. But lack of water isn't an issue here, there's enough of it. Instead, I'd prefer toilets that use rainwater for flushing instead of drinking water.

Also, saving too much water can cause hygiene problems when the sewage network isn't rinsed well.
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Old 18.02.2011, 17:29
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No, very logical actually.

Fountain = tax payer's money.
Urimat = restaurant owner's money saved.

In other words - would city councils use the tax money as carefully as a restaurant owner uses his own money... well, we guessed that before didn't we...

Errr.... the water from one of them needs to be cleaned. Big, or rather "gross" difference.

Are you suggesting that in order to save money, the city of Bern should cut off the water supply to the historical fountains. Isn't that just slightly over the top?


BTW, where is the "In Switzerland we have enough water, but we should try not to pollute it if we don't have to" option.
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Wait, it uses electricity? This thing is not as "green" as I thought. Actually, judging by the picture it looks more "yellow" than "green"
Is there not a warning to come with this, just like you should not pee on a wire under voltage?

Not sure if electrics and water mix well.. if you see someone behind the petrol station watering the trees, its me.. i will not risk to be shocked..

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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

Very happy to be female on this occasion!
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Re: Urimat: Good idea?

I don't like them at all.

At first I thought there must be some radiation there to kill the smell, and I wasn't too happy putting Percy in a neutron beam. So I was very relieved to find that the urine is heated to kill the smell, and pleased to see it is only 24 volts (Hopefully no misprint there!)

However if we all save water here, the Dutch will have nothing to drink!
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