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Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

I was crossing the road near the office, on the cross. As I approached the crossing, one car accelerated, but that was no problem, as I would have gone behind it anyway. The next car didn't stop - so I frowned and looked angrily at the driver... who suddenly stopped, and the driver, a sweet old lady, wound down her window and apologised most profusely.

Now I feel really guilty!
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:08
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I was crossing the road near the office, on the cross. As I approached the crossing, one car accelerated, but that was no problem, as I would have gone behind it anyway. The next car didn't stop - so I frowned and looked angrily at the driver... who suddenly stopped, and the driver, a sweet old lady, wound down her window and apologised most profusely.

Now I feel really guilty!
Lucky you, last time that happend to me , the french plated car laughed at me while passing by.. plunker..
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:09
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I was crossing the road near the office, on the cross. As I approached the crossing, one car accelerated, but that was no problem, as I would have gone behind it anyway. The next car didn't stop - so I frowned and looked angrily at the driver... who suddenly stopped, and the driver, a sweet old lady, wound down her window and apologised most profusely.

Now I feel really guilty!
Have you checked your wallet?
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:12
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

I couldn't see the look on the face of the driver who stopped to let me cross the main road near here once last winter. As he/she stopped all the snow on the roof shot down and covered the windscreen.
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:13
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

Once a guy slowed down and expected me to cross. I just stood there because some truck had had spilt some small stones the day before and the cars where usually skidding when they stopped or slowed down. Sure enough he skidded then flipped me off for not crossing...

I thought it was suppose to be civilised here!
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:21
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

I went out to lunch a couple of days ago and by walking into the crosswalk I pretty much forced a car to stop...it didn't look like he was going to.

As I crossed the crosswalk I glanced at the license plate

" CD / 1 : 06 "

oh fuggggg, the Director General of the org. I work for.

sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry boss.
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:27
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I couldn't see the look on the face of the driver who stopped to let me cross the main road near here once last winter. As he/she stopped all the snow on the roof shot down and covered the windscreen.
That what happen when people are too lazy to clean up the snow on the roof of their car. This is very dangerous to drive like this!
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:36
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I was crossing the road near the office, on the cross. As I approached the crossing, one car accelerated, but that was no problem, as I would have gone behind it anyway. The next car didn't stop - so I frowned and looked angrily at the driver... who suddenly stopped, and the driver, a sweet old lady, wound down her window and apologised most profusely.

Now I feel really guilty!
Don't.

Probably inappropriate, and not the place, (and I'm not ageist, either), but I sometimes wonder if the oldies behind the wheel are equally as dangerous, as the "boy racer" is perceived to be. In short it's wrong to generalise, but I wonder if they sometimes struggle in the modern driving environment, having supposedly learnt and done a fair amount of driving in far less hectic times (in less powerful cars, maybe).

As my daughter is 5th class, I was asked if I could assist with the school crossing patrol (patrouille), one lunchtime per month. One time, I was in position early and there was a kindergarten class returning to the school from some expedition with 2 teachers (front and back), so I naturally did my duty and stood in the middle of the street to stop any traffic.
There was actually none and everyone crossed, but just as the last ones were starting to cross a car appeared with a "sweet old lady" at the wheel. The last kids and teacher were barely across the middle (where I was also stood with glow-yellow jacket and hand-held lollipop), and she just continued at the same speed without even attempting to slow down or stop.
Two things occurred to me as I glared at her:
1) either she assessed that her side of the road would be clear, and therefore would not need to stop (although she was close enough to myself and the others still on the crossing for it to be deemed dangerous); or
2) she was completely oblivious of what was actually going on around her, and what she was supposed to do.

They can smile and nicely say sorry as they plough into pedestrians, equally the same as the boy racer can snarl and curse, for the same.
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:37
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

Girlfriends father always sayd " who has time to blow his horn, has time to brake " .. damn right he is
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Old 24.02.2011, 14:38
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Girlfriends father always sayd " who has time to blow his horn, has time to brake " .. damn right he is
Clearly not a tram driver then.
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Old 24.02.2011, 15:01
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

After returning to Switzerland from Italy I almost got knocked over at the metalli traffic light - I was doing it the Italian way..
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Old 24.02.2011, 16:44
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

As an aside, I saw an article in 20 min* t'other day mentioning that road accidents at pedestrian crossings is on the up - mainly seems to be driven (pardon the pun) by pedestrians talking on the phone rather than looking at what's happening around them.

Next step (aarrggh another unintentional pun): banning mobile phone use while walking... you heard it here first folks...

*sorry, can't find the link
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Old 24.02.2011, 17:10
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

Apparently, in Switzerland, you don't need to stop at a pedestrian crossing if you're driving a 4X4 SUV.

(That's my observation anyway).
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Old 24.02.2011, 17:32
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As an aside, I saw an article in 20 min* t'other day mentioning that road accidents at pedestrian crossings is on the up - mainly seems to be driven (pardon the pun) by pedestrians talking on the phone rather than looking at what's happening around them.

Next step (aarrggh another unintentional pun): banning mobile phone use while walking... you heard it here first folks...

*sorry, can't find the link
This was not only a 20 min article, it was the annual traffic accident statistic which was published last week. Bottom line was: Although the number of vehicles is growing did the number of death decline. With one exception: Pedestrians.

So I heard a radio interview with the researchers and to be more precise: The accidents that killed people and drove the statistic up did in a vast majority of cases NOT take place at crossings. It is people on phones walking across the street where drivers do not expect them to do so.

And yes, I can fully relate to this: I have more than once been able to avoid an accident on the last second with pedestrians or cyclists having headphones on (!) and not looking when crossing a road somewhere where they are hard to see and have no right of way. The same is true for cars. Whenever I think "this guy is driving really weird" I can usually see the driver on the phone or playing with the radio...

In short: If we would all pay a bit more attention, less people would die - hardly a surprise. More surprising was the conclusion of the expert who - after saying that it probably is iPods and phones - suggested a general speed limit of 30 in towns. What for? So that people can safely wonder around without looking? I doubt this works...
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Old 24.02.2011, 17:35
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Apparently, in Switzerland, you don't need to stop at a pedestrian crossing if you're driving a 4X4 SUV.

(That's my observation anyway).
Or a bike.
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Apparently, in Switzerland, you don't need to stop at a pedestrian crossing if you're driving a 4X4 SUV.

(That's my observation anyway).
Or a bike.
<groans>

You are just sooooooo naive.

Cars break the law.

Bikes are a law unto themselves.

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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

My first visit to Switzerland I had problems with the pedestrian crossings ......I would stand on the pavement, and an approaching car would stop 50m away.....the driver signaling me to cross.

Asking about this weird phenomonon I was told they HAVE to stop, and I had the right of way.

But ..... 6 years down the line .....and changing times...... I learned to take the advice of the policeman who trains the kindergarten kids ..... wait for the car to actually stop first!

Drivers, some of them, seem to look annoyed at having to stop, or try to ignore me waiting for them .... so I now signal them, with a big sweeping wave, to "carry on", and I cross when the road is clear.
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My first visit to Switzerland I had problems with the pedestrian crossings ......I would stand on the pavement, and an approaching car would stop 50m away.....the driver signaling me to cross.

Asking about this weird phenomonon I was told they HAVE to stop, and I had the right of way.

But ..... 6 years down the line .....and changing times...... I learned to take the advice of the policeman who trains the kindergarten kids ..... wait for the car to actually stop first!

Drivers, some of them, seem to look annoyed at having to stop, or try to ignore me waiting for them .... so I now signal them, with a big sweeping wave, to "carry on", and I cross when the road is clear.
That's nothing to do with the law and everything to do with children unable to judge road traffic.
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Old 24.02.2011, 18:16
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

What irritates me is that some people dont even look whilst crossing just expecting you to stop. Once a group of kids with a teacher present did the same. Not a good thing to teach kids. In the UK kids are taught to look left and right when using a crossing. Also why so many crossing especially at roundabouts?
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Re: Crossing the road, cars failing to stop

That is still the case in Basel. I always stop for Pedestrians and they smile and wave at me. The favor is returned when I am on foot.

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My first visit to Switzerland I had problems with the pedestrian crossings ......I would stand on the pavement, and an approaching car would stop 50m away.....the driver signaling me to cross.

Asking about this weird phenomonon I was told they HAVE to stop, and I had the right of way.

But ..... 6 years down the line .....and changing times...... I learned to take the advice of the policeman who trains the kindergarten kids ..... wait for the car to actually stop first!

Drivers, some of them, seem to look annoyed at having to stop, or try to ignore me waiting for them .... so I now signal them, with a big sweeping wave, to "carry on", and I cross when the road is clear.
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