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Old 09.03.2011, 19:32
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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

Take public transport.

And those old fat men on this forum should stop driving those Porsches...
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Old 09.03.2011, 20:03
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We should all use less water.

Let's all have a shower/bath together, an EF regular event. We need a big bath, does any one have a big bath ? Please ??

Actually, I have been house hunting with a friend this week in the UK and it seems that all the showers in new houses are double sized for 2 to share...

No big bath but can suggest a couple of quite large lakes for an EF event
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Old 09.03.2011, 20:06
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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

My behaviour is already sustainable. I can be sarcastic all day if necessary, without any ill side effects.
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Old 09.03.2011, 22:07
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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

Great input! Thank you everybody!

So in summary we have these suggestions:
- consume/buy less
- buy more quality (longer life)
- buy local products
- use public transport (when not inthe middle of nowhere) / more tele-work
- reduce paper and water consumption ...including common bathing suggestions ;-)
- recycle more

Now, how to make it more "hassle free" (as said) and "sexy" (the dancers?)?

For sure recycling should be made easier (more collections / facilities/ opening hours).

I also think that sustainablility information should be made available and be clearer. For instance I found it very useful while renting a car on a website to have clearly available the emissions per car (in the first screen listing the cars available, just after the car type).

Any other experiences/ideas?
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Old 09.03.2011, 22:32
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Now, how to make it more "hassle free" (as said) and "sexy" (the dancers?)?
Companies could make public transport a "sexier" proposition for their employees by subsidising the cost of a GA or local bus pass. After all, they do it with subsidised canteens, so why not transport ?

Of course, driving to work is always going to be the only realistic option for a lot of people, but there are many others who drive when it would only take ten minutes longer by bus, bike or walking - subsidies could make a difference there.

The council in Neuchâtel gives local residents a 130 CHF voucher towards the cost of an annual bus/train pass (normal price 570 CHF or more depending on the number of zones) every year on simple proof of residency in the town. A very good initiative I think.
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It's a naughty Monkey. I have to spank it every day.
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Old 09.03.2011, 23:13
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Great input! Thank you everybody!

So in summary we have these suggestions:
- consume/buy less
- buy more quality (longer life)
- buy local products
- use public transport (when not inthe middle of nowhere) / more tele-work
- reduce paper and water consumption ...including common bathing suggestions ;-)
- recycle more

Now, how to make it more "hassle free" (as said) and "sexy" (the dancers?)?

For sure recycling should be made easier (more collections / facilities/ opening hours).

I also think that sustainablility information should be made available and be clearer. For instance I found it very useful while renting a car on a website to have clearly available the emissions per car (in the first screen listing the cars available, just after the car type).

Any other experiences/ideas?
Am I the only one who is getting the impression of a student writing a paper?

Is your list above the first time that you've considered these (obvious*) points in your life?

*sorry if that's harsh, but they are, you'd need to be a 10 year old or less to not know about them, or have your head buried in the sand for the past 20 years.
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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

Stop travelling to work.

Telecommute!
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Old 09.03.2011, 23:48
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I have always pushed my last few employers to let me work from home a few days a week. Generally they don't like it even though I perform better at home. In the end they back down and it works out well for everybody.

I would therefore try to educate employers to measure their staff on productivity and not location. Many of us can cut out a lot of travel, but of course homeworking is not for everybody.
You know the old saying, 'Be careful what you wish for, as it might be granted to you'?

My husband's company has started just such an initiative - employees are encouraged to work from home a certain number of days per month.

What a wonderful, caring, green and family-friendly company, right?

B*ll*cks.

The reality is that my home is now no longer mine - my home has become an extension of my husband's office. The usual goings-on of our daily lives are unacceptable background for a professional setting - and of course when one is working from home one is still expected to maintain professionalism. So the family has tip-toe around on eggshells while OH works from home.

It was bad enough that his work day runs until the US closes... I could handle a few hours of tip-toeing in the evening, but now that it's all day long...

What the company has done is essentially shifted it's overhead costs to the employees. (Guess who is paying the heat, electric, phone, etc. for those working at home days?)

Jumping on the green bandwagon is all well and good; the work-from-home idea is fine if the employee is the only person at home. But what about the rest of the family? We not employees! Working from home - meaning the family has to be organized around the company schedule - can be a huge imposition.

OK - I suppose that you can argue that this has a net green effect - 'cause when I finally get fed up and put hemlock in OH's soup that will be one less carbon footprint on the planet...


(Just joking about the hemlock... I think. )

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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

Use less energy, shut down your PC at night.
Cook your pasta with HOT tap water instead of cold tap water.
Reduce the amount of water used for the cleaning of dishes.
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Use less energy, shut down your PC at night.
Cook your pasta with HOT tap water instead of cold tap water.
Unless you have a private water boiler. In this case it has been proven that the most efficient way to boil water is in an electric kettle. It is also almost always the case, that you have to keep the water running for a while until the hot one starts coming out = even more waste.
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Old 10.03.2011, 09:33
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Ban capsule coffee machines, before we end up buried in these:

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Or use one of these and separate the coffee grounds to compost and aluminium to recycle...

Outpresso

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Old 10.03.2011, 10:02
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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

It has a lot to do with self-discipline and the actual want to do something. You have to make decisions to change conciously, in other words, live aware of your surroundings.
I have made recycling a habit, never go to the store without my bottles to drop on the way, and make sure I know when the paper collection will be. My driving point was I hated having so much garbage so I made it a point to not throw away anything that can be recycled. I might be a little extreme in that respect but the difference is I can get by with a 17ltr trash bag for 2 weeks. The new place I live in does not have a compost, so I am currently creating my own compost in a plastic bucket.
Make life interesting for yourself - want a day out? Then make it a point to take public transport instead of your car. You'll see Switzerland from a different perspective if you take the train or even the post auto. I made it a point never to have a car, I cycle and take public transport.
Electricity - it's only by forming a habit of turning things of that you can succeed. The multi plugs with the switch on them are good for that. But there are certain things you shouldn't turn off, like Cablecom receiver boxes. But your tv doesn't have to be on standby.
There is no way to make living greener well and truely "sexy". You simply have to want to change.
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It's a naughty Monkey. I have to spank it every day.
OOoooh errr missus.

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Re: What would you need to behave more sustainably?

I'm considering recycling the neighbors. It's not that they're quite dead yet however. In all honesty though, most of them are past their sell by dates anyway and some rich dude will probably still be willing to pay a few bucks for their key organs. With the proceeds, I'd plant a tree or two and then use the rest for a trip to the North Pole to slaughter those Polar Bears that are peeing in the water and causing global warming. Furry bastards.
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