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Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

We are currently expats living in northern Germany, and my husband has a job offer in Zug. On paper, it looks like the place we have always wanted to settle down...big enough and international enough that we are not simply known as "The Foreign Family" as we are here, but not a huge bustling city.

But I am sort of hesitating about what my daily life as a stay-at-home-mom would be like. My son is 3yo and here in Germany he would be starting kindergarten this summer (so like preschool or nursery). I know kita does not start until 5yo in CH but what do the 3 and 4 yo do? Is there preschool or something where they can go even if parents are not working? Are there loads of mother&child playgroups, activities, etc? He is definitely "ready" for a preschool type program and I am looking forward to getting back to my own life...and am sort of concerned that by moving to Zug I am looking at another 2 years of being a bored SAHM without much to do? What do other non-working mothers do in Zug?

Are there job opportunities for women with little German? We have been in Germany for a couple of years now but what German I have learned is "playgroup moms chatter" not so much business or employment German, if that makes sense?

I have gone through the many threads and worked out costs of living and such, and am confident we can do it on one salary. But (and I am not sure how to word this well so bear with me) my husband is not a high earning businessman or in finance or banking or any other high paying field. So it's one thing for him to earn enough that we can live comfortably, but it is different if all of our social network (ie other expats) are living off of two good salaries or one sr management expat salary...does that make sense? I guess what I am asking is, are most of the expats in Zug on the very wealthy side of the spectrum or are there others who are "making it work on one income"....if that makes sense?

Sorry for the ramble....would love to hear from some others though on the day to day realities of life in Zug!
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

Wow!!! One person who actually checked that the slalary is enough to live on! Im impressed!!

Welcome soon to Switzerland
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

You've timed things quite well. The age for starting Kindergarten has come down around here in the past few years.

Kinder, die bis zum 28. Februar das 4. Lebensjahr erreichen, können für den Kindergarten angemeldet werden.
Die Anmeldeunterlagen werden direkt den betroffenen Erziehungsberechtigten zugestellt. Wer bis zum 16. Februar keine Unterlagen erhalten hat, kann diese beim Schulsekretariat der Stadtschulen Zug, Ägeristrasse 7, 6300 Zug, beziehen.

Die Zuteilung der Kinder zu den einzelnen Kindergärten wird durch das Rektorat entschieden
. Children, who are 4 on or before 28.February, can be for enrolled for the Kindergarten... contact:
Schulsekretariat der Stadtschulen Zug, Ägeristrasse 7, 6300 Zug.

Kindergarten Zug a bit of Info in English.

Hope you manage to get things sorted out successfully.
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

Interesting about the kindergarten age change, but sadly that would still be 2 full academic years away for us! He is 3yo this July....so would not be "4 before the end of Feb" for another 2 years. And thank you for that booklet in English (seriously, 5 year olds are encouraged to walk to kindergarten alone? OMG!)

But in the years before starting kindergarten, what do kids do? Are they generally at home with mothers, and daycare is only an option for mothers who work? Or are there preschool type places where they typically go for half-days (ish) from 3-4 years?

@gata: re the salary....we have moved SO much in the last decade (I think we are on 6 countries in 9 years, I have lost count!) so I am used to having to do some extensive research on whether we can afford it...and also used to expat forums that are sick to death of the salary question! LOL!
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

You do have preschool for kids but it is very expensive. My daughter goes 3 mornings (3 hours / morning) per week and it cost 540 chf / month. Some place can go up to 2500 chf / month for full time.
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daycare is only an option for mothers who work?
My limited initial research suggests that this is the case unless you are really able and willing to take a massive financial hit. I am looking for childcare options for my daughter so that I can negotiate a return to work but have quickly realised that even with what I thought was a good job in investment, I will be netting nothing (worst case possibly losing money!) if I hire a nanny, and losing the majority of my salary if I use daycare. Obviously there are other benefits to returning to work that are longer term in nature and I won't go into here, but it has been an eye-opener. Since nursery places are in demand here my husband's employer offers access to (independent, private) daycare but you can only go on the waitlist if you both work and only apply for the number of days that you are both working. I also believe that childcare costs are tax deductible (in Zurich at least) but again only if you both work.
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

Ok, thanks for this info! That IS expensive! Seems quite similar to London nursery prices, which I guess I shouldn't be shocked at.

Those of you in Zug....are most of the expat moms at home with their kids, leaving a bit of a mothers network and such? It took me SO long when we moved here to Germany to meet other moms and figure out where they all were and what they were all doing every day...not sure I can handle that settling in loneliness again, especially now if I am going to be a SAHM for another 2 years.

Is there loads of stuff for the kids to do? I mean, my nearly three year old is bored stiff and definitely ready for some sort of preschool program, I can't imagine keeping him home and trying to stimulate him for another 2 years!
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Ok, thanks for this info! That IS expensive! Seems quite similar to London nursery prices, which I guess I shouldn't be shocked at.

Those of you in Zug....are most of the expat moms at home with their kids, leaving a bit of a mothers network and such? It took me SO long when we moved here to Germany to meet other moms and figure out where they all were and what they were all doing every day...not sure I can handle that settling in loneliness again, especially now if I am going to be a SAHM for another 2 years.

Is there loads of stuff for the kids to do? I mean, my nearly three year old is bored stiff and definitely ready for some sort of preschool program, I can't imagine keeping him home and trying to stimulate him for another 2 years!
Hello mashi, there always are options. To prevent loneliness, it is good to start organizing your own get togethers, EF is great for that. Try searching the forum, too, for parenting and mom issues in Zug, something will come up. I have also gone through a major pain of figuring out stuff on my own when I had a newborn here and it was in a tiny place, not Zug. If there are morning programs (say you put your kiddo into daycare for 3mornings) you can organize the rest, before you even find out what is going on with babes and moms in Zug. People will show up and you will get filled in. The adjustment is not so painful, sometimes it will be in German, sometimes in English, if you remain flexible, it will surely work out. It is good,though, to stay in the mindset that not everything is organized here by communities (and if so, long waiting lists or sometimes big price tags, but there are inexpensive activities, sure), so in the meantime, one can become an organizer for a 3-4 moms and their kiddos.
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Ok, thanks for this info! That IS expensive! Seems quite similar to London nursery prices, which I guess I shouldn't be shocked at.

Those of you in Zug....are most of the expat moms at home with their kids, leaving a bit of a mothers network and such? It took me SO long when we moved here to Germany to meet other moms and figure out where they all were and what they were all doing every day...not sure I can handle that settling in loneliness again, especially now if I am going to be a SAHM for another 2 years.

Is there loads of stuff for the kids to do? I mean, my nearly three year old is bored stiff and definitely ready for some sort of preschool program, I can't imagine keeping him home and trying to stimulate him for another 2 years!
Some of the Expats wifes do voluntary work... Nursing homes, Claro Weltladen and ...
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Re: Daily life as a SAHM in Zug

The Zug women's club has many that are in your exact same situation.
It is a social club comprised of women from all over, but it is mostly
anglo-centric.

http://www.ziwc.ch/home.php

Good Luck!!
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