Poll: How do you feel about living and working in Switzerland? - Page 8

#**141** 20.03.2011, 21:59

	Quote:	Nil
	You've been a good teacher too.... don't be modest!

Thanks. I know what I do Nil, and I don't really go of off the feedback. I drive myself.

Sleepless · #**142** 20.03.2011, 21:59

	Quote:	Phos
	Let's analyze the results: #1: 4 #2: 5 #3: 6 #4: 5 #5: 43 And it doesn't even include people who would have voted for a #6. The results: This poll is absolutely useless. But it does show that the sampling of foreigners, EF members in this case, have by and large a fairly positive attitude towards Switzerland.

I think the issue is, the stages are designed for grief. For example, the #3 option is when someone wants to bargain for a few more years with a lost loved one . Is this what people thought as they were voting, that they are in the stage of bargaining for one more year with their former country?

Probably, you do go through something like grief as an expat (in ANY country!), but end up on a roller coaster ride going through the stages. I want to vote(in the poll

) but can't. I'm not sure I'm at the bottom of the hill -- or on the way up again. But, I do know it goes up and down and am trying to just take it in stride. I also know that I've reached a point someone described in an earlier post -- home is no longer 'home' and CH is not yet 'home.'

#**143** 20.03.2011, 22:03

	Quote:	Sleepless
	I think the issue is, the stages are designed for grief. For example, the #3 option is when someone wants to bargain for a few more years with a lost loved one . Is this what people thought as they were voting, that they are in the stage of bargaining for one more year with their former country? Probably, you do go through something like grief as an expat (in ANY country!), but end up on a roller coaster ride going through the stages. I want to vote(in the poll ) but can't. I'm not sure I'm at the bottom of the hill -- or on the way up again. But, I do know it goes up and down and am trying to just take it in stride. I also know that I've reached a point someone described in an earlier post -- home is no longer 'home' and CH is not yet 'home.'

That is correct. It is derived from Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's steps for accepting death. The process of acclimating to another culture is often compared to it. There are some parallels. Transitioning to another culture is a bit like the death of one's previous identity. I went through this here as well.

I was just commenting on how the presumption of this poll is that all EF members are undergoing this process. But many of us have long gone through this. We can't vote on this poll.

It's for the F.O.B.s

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

#**144** 20.03.2011, 22:13

	Quote:	Sleepless
	I want to vote(in the poll ) but can't. I'm not sure I'm at the bottom of the hill -- or on the way up again. But, I do know it goes up and down and am trying to just take it in stride. I also know that I've reached a point someone described in an earlier post -- home is no longer 'home' and CH is not yet 'home.'

Sorry, I missed this.

It sounds like you already got the jist of it, and are able to conceptualize it. But that at times, you fall. That is alright, and no need to kick yourself for it. It takes a bit of practice, which becomes discipline. It isn't a singular transformational event. It is a bit more like conditioning.

st2lemans · #**145** 20.03.2011, 22:19

	Quote:	Phos
	It is derived from Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's steps for accepting death.

Yes, but having done that as well, I call it nonsense.

Some people may go through it, but hardly all.

Tom

#**146** 20.03.2011, 22:22

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Some people may go through it, but hardly all.

And those who do can tick a box on the poll.

I doubt the OP intended quite this much analysis to take place on what was clearly intended to be a lighthearted poll.

#**147** 20.03.2011, 22:23

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Yes, but having done that as well, I call it nonsense. Some people may go through it, but hardly all. Tom

That is absolutely true. Some decide to stay in misery by denying it and burying it in their mind. Blaming something outside of oneself is an indicator they aren't dealing with their own personal reality. This just prolongs it.

(Little do the readers of this thread know that I am actually doing them a huge favor. But no need for any sort of acknowledgment or compensation. I get my payment elsewhere.)