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Are they protestant? I always thought they carve out their own niche...
That's what protestantism is about!
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Are they protestant? I always thought they carve out their own niche...
They're protestant down to the bone, they only disguise themselves as cool people. However, they are not a church.
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That's what protestantism is about!
not really.
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What's a Hauskreis (house circle), then?
Never seen anything thelike nor heard about something thelike between Adliswil and Kloten ! Nor in places like Schaffhausen or Zug or Luzern.
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Never seen anything thelike nor heard about something thelike between Adliswil and Kloten ! Nor in places like Schaffhausen or Zug or Luzern.
Well I've been to one a few times, and they seem to spend a fair bit of time reading the Bible and talking about it, as well as sharing food and having a good natter, so they obviously exist.
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Well I've been to one a few times, and they seem to spend a fair bit of time reading the Bible and talking about it, as well as sharing food and having a good natter, so they obviously exist.
Exist they may, but not in a way to be noticeable in normal places, and by normal places I mean, Zürich-Wollishofen, Zürich-Enge, Zürich-Seefeld, Zürich-Wiedikon, Zürich-Oberstrass, Zürich-Oerlikon, Zürich-Seebach, Glattbrugg, Kloten, Adliswil, Schaffhausen, Schaffhausen-Herblingen, Stein-am-Rhein .... and to say it again, nobody I know ever mentioned something like it
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

ahh, being reminded of the subtle differences between religion, church, sect...
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Exist they may, but not in a way to be noticeable in normal places, and by normal places I mean, Zürich-Wollishofen, Zürich-Enge, Zürich-Seefeld, Zürich-Wiedikon, Zürich-Oberstrass, Zürich-Oerlikon, Zürich-Seebach, Glattbrugg, Kloten, Adliswil, Schaffhausen, Schaffhausen-Herblingen, Stein-am-Rhein .... and to say it again, nobody I know ever mentioned something like it
OK. I'll explain it as clearly as I can:
  • The OP is seeking a protestant church where there is the possibility of attending Bible study meetings.
  • There are protestant churches at which such meetings exist, even in Zurich. I know this because I have attended them myself. In Zurich.
  • Knowing that such protestant churches exist in Zurich might be helpful for the OP, as it increases the likelihood of such churches existing where she lives.
  • Your contribution isn't actually helping very much, as you are, quite frankly, talking nonsense.
What are you trying to prove, exactly, and how is this supposed to help the OP?
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ahh, being reminded of the subtle differences between religion, church, sect...
I laugh because nowerdays the lutherin church in Wellington where my father goes, sometimes has drums not just an organ. This takes a lot of getting used to for some.


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.......In Zurich.....
.......where she lives.
....... how is this supposed to help the OP?
She is in Untersiggenthal.
Theres is a Protestant church in her extended village a lot of English speakers, its been pointed to in 2 posts.
It may not be as penticostal as some she is used to, but she may still be able to find the connection she wants. Moving churches is like moving families. Hard enough without silly arguments
If its Latter Day Saints she is after, there are these guys in Wettingen.
I dont think there are many English speakers there, but i've never been.

Lets all go retrieve our Nukkis, just thrown out of the playpen, and show this new girl a bit of class, leave our differences in belief systems to be fought over by those guys in the middle east with guns.
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They're protestant down to the bone, they only disguise themselves as cool people. However, they are not a church.


i dont get this completely...they disguise as cool people but not a church..u mean not registered/official, but real (cool)believers? that sounds good to me since im not looking for an old fashioned church as i have personal issues about organized religion itself. Iv experienced and i expect to be judged (tattoos and all). Im more of a bible person and as long as thats the central basis of the fellowship, thats what im after.

Thanks so much for the help, but i would need my husband to look up those websites in german.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

"A lot of English speakers" is one thing, "services in English" unfortunately another.

If you are prepared to muddle through it in German (which is what I did - understood next to nothing at first but the fellowship was great even across a language barrier - and you'll be surprised how fast you learn), there is almost certainly a Bible study group in your village. Contact your local 'Reformierte' church and ask about a Bibelgruppe or Hauskreis. These normally meet on a weeknight, once or twice a month. Often in the case of a Hauskreis you have a potluck dinner followed by Bible study and prayer... maybe even a little bit of singing. (Top Tip: German hymns are an excellent way to learn the specialized vocabulary you need to cope with church services in German. )

They will also have a Frauengottesdienst (sometimes called Frauenkreis, Frauentreff, Frauenzmorge...) which is more official, like a Ladies' Bible Study back home - church ladies meet in the church, one morning or afternoon a week, and talk about... something. Back home it usually is a theme from the Bible, here it is just as likely to be "Wonderful Medicinal Plants God has Given Us for the Common Cold." (I am not making that up!) Either way though, a nice and instructive coffee morning/afternoon with fellow believers.

More information here (sorry it's all in German - run it through Google Translate and you should get most of it though)
http://www.refkirche-baden.ch/html/u...ng-gruppen.php
It looks like they also have an ecumenical Young Mothers' Group - might be perfect for you!

(Note that this page doesn't give any information on Bibelgruppen or Hauskreise specifically. That's not because they don't exist, but because these groups are privately organized by people in the church, not part of its official offering. The church secretary will definitely know though. Call or email her and ask.)
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i dont get this completely...they disguise as cool people but not a church..u mean not registered/official, but real (cool)believers?
No. People that wear hoodies and jeans and use what they think is youth-slang to brainwash young people with their extremely backward, intolerant and homophobic view of the world.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

Thank you FrankS for your charming summaries. The OP is looking for a church, so we're going to keep this thread for positive and helpful recommendations or tips on that specific subject.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

FrankS - I suggest you take it to the religious musing thread.

I missed out one important English speaking protestant church in Basel. The anglicans. oops . (Just for completion - it seems the OP has been nobbled by the Zürich mob )
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Thank you FrankS for your charming summaries. The OP is looking for a church, so we're going to keep this thread for positive and helpful recommendations or tips on that specific subject.
Shouldn't we also warn her if there are highly non-recommendable groups?
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Shouldn't we also warn her if there are highly non-recommendable groups?

Perhaps, but I think you've already done enough of that for now, any more and it'll derail the thread. Thanks.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

I could try going to different churches sunday after sunday (or saturday after saturday). But it would make much more sense if i first do some research which i already did but came up with around 10 international churches, including some even as far as Luzern. So its very hepful, the links u gave me. English service is important as i dont go to church to learn some more german (i have twice a week swissgerman classes) but to catch up on my spiritual life by listening, understanding and talking about it in a fellowship.
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Here are some photos of churches in your Canton

But for me, I would ask here
http://www.universitieshandbook.com/...lical-theology

It seems this institute studies exactly what you're looking for and it's in your Canton. I would approach them. Either you can study with them directly on a part time basis, or perhaps they can organise something for you and your family on a Saturday or just refer you (to where they go, I'd assume).
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I could try going to different churches sunday after sunday (or saturday after saturday). But it would make much more sense if i first do some research which i already did but came up with around 10 international churches, including some even as far as Luzern. So its very hepful, the links u gave me. English service is important as i dont go to church to learn some more german (i have twice a week swissgerman classes) but to catch up on my spiritual life by listening, understanding and talking about it in a fellowship.
I understand what you are saying, but would recommend considering a German-speaking church, maybe not immediately but in the longer term once you've got the grasp of the basics of the language. It is good to be able to break out of just hanging around with other English-speakers and get to know some locals and many churches are very open and welcoming to newcomers and will make you feel at home very quickly. As for the difficult language, it is true that some of the more old fashioned churches still use Bibles and hymn books that read as if they haven't been re-edited since the 18th Century (personally I'm actually a big fan of the older hymns), but there are also quite a lot of churches that do go with the times and speak perfectly normal everyday German. Furthermore, whereas international churches tend to collect people from over half the country, in a German-speaking Church there will be mostly locals and getting to know them will help you integrate much more quickly in your area. And remember actually speaking the language, even if you make 1000 mistakes, is a far better way to learn it than attending classes and the letting it rest for the remainder of the week.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

I agree. I'd also recommend giving the local Protestant church a try. For me, it was not my first choice, as the majority was not in my age group. But they were very welcoming, quickly got me involved, and in the end I stayed for a few years before moving on to another church. Besides, there is something to be said about learning different styles of worship.
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