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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

yes im also interested in the local church for the long run, but should be ok temporarily in an english speaking church. In the meantime we have no time yet for sunday/saturday service as we have alot of preparations to do for wedding in May. We use the weekends to drive around, make reservations, personally invite his friends from all over germany. Also i have a fear of being judged for living together before marriage. I dunno how it is here but from where im from, most churches (even my own)would frown upon my status.
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Also i have a fear of being judged for living together before marriage. I dunno how it is here but from where im from, most churches (even my own)would frown upon my status.
Don't be afraid. Switzerland is not Saudi Arabia.
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... I dunno how it is here but from where im from, most churches (even my own)would frown upon my status.
You are likely encounter this in Switzerland as well, very much depending on the flavour of the particular church, so be prepared. (Edit: but you won't get stoned for it! ).
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

I didn't see if this has been mentioned before but there is also St Andrew's Anglican church in Zürich. They have a monthly service in English at the Reform Church at Turgi (quite close to you)

http://standrewszurich.org/Site/Turgi.html

The link will take you to the homepage, click Daughter Communities then click on the picture of Turgi church (the modern /ugly looking one with the tall tower on the left)

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You are likely encounter this in Switzerland as well, very much depending on the flavour of the particular church, so be prepared. (Edit: but you won't get stoned for it! ).

I know! thats why i hesitate to just walk into any church i see. I must know the attitude of the congregation first since its inevitable that i introduce myself and spill some personal info sooner or later. It could be embarrassing and/or traumatic.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

If the church is your village church, chances are fair that half the people in it are aware of your situation already. Either they have met you in Migros already, or have heard from one of your neighbors about the lovely young couple who just moved in, or their husband works with your fiancé and knows he is getting married, or they know his family and have heard it all from his mother four months ago, or one of a hundred other ways. If nobody is looking daggers at you across the checkout line already I wouldn't worry too much. (Looking daggers, I said. Staring doesn't count; they're Swiss, they can't help that. )
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If the church is your village church, chances are fair that half the people in it are aware of your situation already. Either they have met you in Migros already, or have heard from one of your neighbors about the lovely young couple who just moved in, or their husband works with your fiancé and knows he is getting married, or they know his family and have heard it all from his mother four months ago, or one of a hundred other ways. If nobody is looking daggers at you across the checkout line already I wouldn't worry too much. (Looking daggers, I said. Staring doesn't count; they're Swiss, they can't help that. )


Why am i abit creeped out by this? lol and to be honest, i really dont know about this "migros" thing...and iv been here only since february 1. Neighborhood seems very nice though but not nosey either. Which i kinda like
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sorry migros, we go shopping in germany...
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If the church is your village church, chances are fair that half the people in it are aware of your situation already. Either they have seen you in Migros already, or have heard from one of your neighbors about the lovely young couple who just moved in, or their husband works with your fiancé and knows he is getting married, or they know his family and have heard it all from his mother four months ago, or one of a hundred other ways. If nobody is looking daggers at you across the checkout line already I wouldn't worry too much. (Looking daggers, I said. Staring doesn't count; they're Swiss, they can't help that. )
You're absolutely right, MN. I just experienced this very phenomenon this weekend. A complete stranger walked up to me and asked if I worked at ... Bakery? I said I did, and she launched into a rapid fire one-sided conversation: I was having a coffee with Jakob, whom clearly you know (not a clue ), and I thought that was you. Anyways, he said you moved here in ... year with your husband who works with ... company. We live in a building directly across from yours. We've seen your daughter playing with the children from ... family as well. You have a dog too don't you? Well it's nice meeting you. Do you attend church here too? Maybe we'll see each other there soon then. Take care, happy Sunday. It went by so quickly and before I knew it she was gone and I was exhausted . I was silly to think that living in anonymity was remotely possible in such a small town.
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I could try going to different churches sunday after sunday (or saturday after saturday). But it would make much more sense if i first do some research which i already did but came up with around 10 international churches, including some even as far as Luzern. So its very hepful, the links u gave me. English service is important as i dont go to church to learn some more german (i have twice a week swissgerman classes) but to catch up on my spiritual life by listening, understanding and talking about it in a fellowship.

We tried attending different church services for 6 months and gratifyingly ended up at ICF Zurich. My recommendation especially since you have a German speaking husband would be to go to the 9.30am service (Chinder Express and also English Translation is catered for). Most importantly ICF is a CHURCH that utilises modern technology.

Evaluate how biblically based their services are for yourself by clicking on last Sunday's english message about the "Ruth Principle".

http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/icf-...io/id270775124

They have an English Prayer Meeting every Friday night and also family activities like this Saturday's International picnic.

So our journey at ICF has been a consistent 2 years where we have got to know many locals and international families as well...but i just still have not met any hoodies who have been brain washed using youth-slang from the ICF "evergreen" 50's and over group nor any other ICF family or teenage group.

Later on when you do feel comfortable with the German language you can attend the ICF in Aargau. All details are on their website and in English
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Don't be afraid. Switzerland is not Saudi Arabia.
You'd be surprised how close fundamental Christians can get to fundamental Muslims when it comes to backward moral ideas... it's as if they had the same God!
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I know! thats why i hesitate to just walk into any church i see. I must know the attitude of the congregation first since its inevitable that i introduce myself and spill some personal info sooner or later. It could be embarrassing and/or traumatic.
But you will never know what their attitudes will be unless you go and see for yourself. Yes, you can learn about some churches that advertise on the web, but even with that, what is advertised is often not what you get. I think you may be surprised. It is very likely the members will be discreet and respect your privacy. And if there are any problems, you can go elsewhere.
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Check out the International Protestant Church of Zurich:
http://www.ipc-zurich.org/

I was going to say the same. I like that Chruch.. I go there whenever I'm in the area
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You'd be surprised how close fundamental Christians can get to fundamental Muslims when it comes to backward moral ideas... it's as if they had the same God!
I know, but Suisse 2008 was talking about going to a local protestant church, not about one of the Freikirchen.
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But you will never know what their attitudes will be unless you go and see for yourself. Yes, you can learn about some churches that advertise on the web, but even with that, what is advertised is often not what you get. I think you may be surprised. It is very likely the members will be discreet and respect your privacy. And if there are any problems, you can go elsewhere.
Yes, and also remember that anything negative you may read on the web (including a forum such as this one) may just be that one individual letting off steam over some personal disappointment or disagreement. The very fact that there are other people who do still attend that church shows that for some people the church is doing something right. Try out different churches and work out for yourself which style you prefer.
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Re: looking for a church to join in AG

If it's any help, ICL (Luzern) is very nice and do have homegroups. When we attended there, there was no judgement on people living together before the marriage. Although there is a different pastor now so things could be different. Our current church, which we switched to so we could improve our German and be somewhere a bit more local than Luzern, is one of the Freikirche - the "Free Churches" - and again, no judgement at all. But I realise that's a bit far for you!
Hope you find something suitable.
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I know, but Suisse 2008 was talking about going to a local protestant church, not about one of the Freikirchen.
But the OP was talking about a church that keeps the sabbath... that's not your ordinary protestant church.
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But the OP was talking about a church that keeps the sabbath... that's not your ordinary protestant church.
Sure. People that observe Sabbath are typically called Jews.
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In (UK) English, "the Sabbath" indicates the day of rest - for Jews normally Friday evening to Saturday evening, for the majority of Christians, Sunday. The OP is somewhat different from the majority of Christians for wishing to observe the Sabbath on a Saturday. Funny thing is, this is the second time I've encountered this view, this month.
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The ideal group for the OP: Messianic jews http://www.chai.ch/jmg/web/home.html
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