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It's weird how the pedestrian is so diligent about stopping for the red man yet the average driver or cyclist has a wanton disregard for their red lights.
I disagree. My experience is people jumping in front of my car all the time. I get a yellow, I hit it but there's always some lunatic running in front of me despite the fact that he's had a red light for ages!! Those people are playing with their lives. I don't run a red light if it's been red for a few seconds, yellow yes sometimes but never a red.

The worst are the drunken people at midnight at the Bellvue. No traffic, which means I do the 50km/h (not the 5km/h like during the rush hour), it's dark which means I don't see them very well, especially considering most people wear dark all the time.

A red is a red and that applies to all of us. It doesn't work when some people think the rules don't apply to them


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Not only separating their own purchase from the next customer's, but sorting their own stuff on the belt according to some (certainly highly relevant) criteria - and then explaining their system to the cashier in great detail. But they do so only when shopping in Germany - no doubt Swiss cashiers have seen it all and don't raise an eyebrow.
It's simple: Hard stuff goes first so it ends up at the bottom of the bag. Fragile and light stuff goes last so it's on top and not damaged. Simple, really. And I don't explain it to anyone (except the english forum)

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Pulling out in front of you, only to turn off 100m down the road.
So true.
Also, changing lanes at all cost in a traffic jam only to change back 100m down the road, overtaking maybe two cars in the process. Pointless.
Also, not hitting the accelerator pedal on the ramp to the highway. Which, officially is named "Beschleunigungs-Streifen" which literally means "Acceleration-Strip"... accelerate then, pleeeeeze.
And the followup to this is: Changing onto the highway with 80 when there's a 120, not realizing that you almost caused a huge accident and are causing a small traffic jam.
If you drive a car, pay attention! You can sleep at home or on the train but please please not on the road!!

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Weird facial hair trimming styles
Pointing out that 20% of the population is not Swiss and therefore implying that the auslanders are responsible for all of the bad things.
Which is statistically proven.

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Swiss like crazy foreigners.
You make our dull, clean and orderly lifes fun please stay (unless you're a criminal of course :P)

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Pressing the "Door Close" button in an elevator as soon as they enter
I'm on a mission, the elevator is my rocket. Can't waste any time here! Also, the chances of me being alone in the elevator are higher so I can look at myself in the mirror and checking if I look just great or awesome! That's probably not swiss, just me

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Next time you put that separating thingy down, put it down length-ways or very skewed. The Swiss person behind you WILL straighten it.

It works every time.
Gotta try this :P

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-Insisting not to be Germans, while bringing stereotypes that other peoples have about the Germans to perfection.
This is very important! Especially on holidays. You have no idea what a difference it can make when the service personell realizes you're not German but Swiss. Everybody loves Swiss people whereas the Germans are more like, hated...
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Specially in the protestant Neuchatel - preferences are on ignoring foreigners, and being proud saying " Nooo, we don't speak English" as well as " ..never heard of German".
Yeah that's probably why many people from the Swiss-German speaking areas consider them "Russians", and it's not meant in a nice way.

Also, french people should not be allowed to write software, it always ends in desaster (personal experience from several software projects where french products were involved).

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In restaurants, (almost) everyone orders just for oneself. Ok that's one thing, because the menus are of course different than greek/japanese where more sharing is involved afaik. But when it comes to paying they make the waiter stand at the table, break down the bill to every item, while not even remembering what they were eating 5 min ago, counting to the Rappen what their share of the bill is...grrrr

ups, wrong place for a mini rant...soo they like things to be neatly separated
I do order for myself and a date or friends. But It'll only be a chaos if someone changes her mind on the last chance.

We can eat together but that doesn't mean I'll pay for you. I expect from a waiter to do the calculating and so on... I probably don't have enough change and small banknotes on me anyway (that's why the waiter has this big portemonaie!). Also, no tip if he doesn't come back after that to then do his job. That's just bad service in my opinion.

Also, waiting in a restaurant to pay and leave. It just takes 2 minutes, why do I have to wait 15mins? Don't you realize that our seats will be empty and new guests can eat there, generating more cash? It makes me furious but I'm passive aggressive about that...

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Ive just spent a few days on the road so here is what I have found they like:

Not checking the road when crossing at pedestrian crossings, they wouldnt last 5 minutes in Australia
Not indicating when changing lanes,although to be fair I must say they seem to be well aware of all the other traffic around them.
Absolute fury at anyone in the left lane not doing at least 20 over the limit
Putting up speed cameras in work zones with reduced speed limits although there is not a worker to be seen anywhere.
A car driver MUST halt for pedestrians at the yellow zebra thingy. BUT not looking if there are cars and they're braking is just plain suicidal!

Not indicating... guilty but only when there are no other cars around. And Yes! I do try to be aware of all traffic around me.

The left lane is for overtaking. Do it or get out of the wa because I'm not allowed to overtake on the right lane... I have to say though, I drive a lot on the left lane, especially when I've just been overtaken and he/she pulled in in front of me with 5m distance (terrible habit that many people have and drives me crazy). So then I promptly pull out to the left so I can see farther than 5m and see what the rest of the traffic ahead is doing.

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Swiss people like telling you where you went wrong.
I know! but we just are that pedantic

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And yet they ticked the box for "jeglicher Fahrbahnwechsel muss angezeigt werden" (any changes of lane must be announced) in their theory test... Knowing the highway code off by heart is a bit annoying in town because you see people not giving a t0ss about it all the time. Like stopping on pedestrian crossings, drives me nuts as you practically have to slide over a bonnet to get to the other side...
Also: you have no right of way when changing lanes. But many people just pull over anyway almost causing an accident.

Having to stop at pedestrian crossings is nonsense... I have to brake, stop, then accelerate again... Think of the environment! All the extra exhaust fumes and braking pad dust people have to inhale...

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I have sometimes looked at those gelatine covered beauties with morbid fascination. One of these days, I'll work up the courage to try one of them - plus some Schabziger, er, maybe not together but just to take advantage of a sudden gastronomical adventurousness (is there such a word?).
check out the american series "bizzarre foods" with andrew zimmern. that man has some courage, all the stuff he's eaten... fascinating series...

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I can't; every time I see the gelatine covered sandwiches I have the impression that some employee covered it with own saliva.
what? i just had 3 of them... 2 with egg, one with tuna... they're delicious!!

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Swiss people love reading certain threads on EF to learn new things they are meant to love, like or constantly do.

Well, at least one Swiss guy I know as closely as it can get does.
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I always appreciate the amount of time it must take to half-fold and then quarter fold each Frank/note in their wallet so they're individually seperated and of course sorted into descending order. At the check out they also make sure to give you your coin change first, allowing time to toss them in your purse/pocket before giving you the bills.

*I don't know if it's specifically Swiss but it's definitely not done where I come from.
I sort them too (usually, it's not an obsession). But folding? Get a bigger portemonaie!

Hm and paying at migros/coop/whatever "Warted Sie, ich has passend" (wait, I've got the right amount here) and then taking aaaaaaages to find all the right coins, turning each one around a dozen times to be certain it's the right value...

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For the record our experiences differ.

I usually make them give me the coins first as they try to pile them onto the note they are also trying to give to me.

I've also had to explain why - on more than one occasion - when being charged 15.45 CHF for some goods, I am giving them 20.45 CHF in cash. Bless.

Although, much less so recently, I'll admit. I think they finally cottoned on to the benefits of the occasional shrapnel clear-out...
I like it like this: put the coins in the palm of my hand, then give me the notes so I can hold them with 2 fingers. When somebody gives me the notes and makes a tower of coins on top of them I always take extra time and care to stash it all... such a simple thing yet it annoys me so much...

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Hating /hated ???? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wolly


I am not swiss then!! I have nothing agings Germans,or AustriansI maybe dislike some individuals but hating
Austrian's I'm cool with. Germans? Some can get quite annoying. But that doesn't apply to all of them of course.

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Just to clarify, hate is a strong word and using it in an American context can distort the meaning I was trying to convey. From my experience Germans and Austrians are the butt of most jokes in Switzerland and many of my friends will just continue to speak Swiss-German to Germans when they try to engage them in conversation, although the Germans will not be able to understand them. Also, Swiss mock the German and Austrian accents. So maybe hate would be too strong of a word in this context.
I talk German in Germany, I talk English in England... Please at least try to understand some Swiss-German (why am I writing english on a swiss forum again? ). Why should it be any different in Switzerland? I also know a lot of Germans who have to tell Swiss guys to just talk Swiss-German because the Swiss High-German is the worse of the two. I a adapt to newbies for a while but after some time I expect you to understand my native tongue. It's the way I naturally speak. I don't mind if you speak your own language (as long as it's German, English, even French might work (haven't used it in a long time)).

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To be fair, the Swiss are absolute beginners at this particular art form compared to the British.
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UHT tastes like the container it comes in, horrible stuff. It belongs in a fall-out shelter. Some people claim not to be able to tell the difference between normal milk and UHT milk - but then I think you need your taste buds checked. It's like not being able to tell the difference between fresh milk from an udder and 'normal' pasteurized milk.

For a dairy nation, I am not surprised that there aren't milk-men, little electric milk trucks and milk dispensing satellites scattered around town and cities. I'm surprised there's not a town call Milch!

Fresh Milk has yet to be marketed here. We should tell Coop and Migros to get on to that one. This summer's latest food craze... Fresh Milk.

Esch frisch... esch guuuuet!
I can taste the difference but I don't think it's *that* bad. Have you ever tried milk fresh from the cow? Still warm? That's the stuff

The problem is, 2-3 days after opening the can, UHT still tastes the same whereas PAST turns sour. And since I don't use much milk and I just want to have some waiting for me in the fridge when I want some, UHT is the way to go.



Sorry for the ranting but It had to be said (not that it'd make any difference)...

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Sticking rigidly in the centre lane of a 3-lane highway, even if the inside lane is empty as far as the eye can see. Especially on the hill coming up from Vevey
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Next time you put that separating thingy down, put it down length-ways or very skewed. The Swiss person behind you WILL straighten it.

It works every time.
Tried this in Aldi last night. Bloke behind me left it alone...


...for a quite a while. Then, as my shopping was being scanned, he straightened it. I nearly laughed out loud.

He'd already put his stuff on, so it wasn't as if he was moving it to make room or anything.

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Tried this in Aldi last night. Bloke behind me left it alone...


...for a quite a while. Then, as my shopping was being scanned, he straightened it. I nearly laughed out loud.

He'd already put his stuff on, so it wasn't as if he was moving it to make room or anything.

Thank you Traubert! It made my day.
I have to admit, I do this too (then again, I am Swiss now). Maybe it's my sense of neatness and order, as I also hate seeing cupboard doors ajar and drawers slightly open, does my head in.
Surprising really, seeing as my desk at work is utter chaos.
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Most of the above are amazingly accurate, here's s few more (siorry in advance if they've been mentioned already):

- practicing their English (no matter how bad it is) which I admire
- smiling when they're in the wrong (my neighbour is especially good at that)
- knowing better
- punctuality
- travelling
- triple checking
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I talk German in Germany, I talk English in England... Please at least try to understand some Swiss-German (why am I writing english on a swiss forum again? ). Why should it be any different in Switzerland? I also know a lot of Germans who have to tell Swiss guys to just talk Swiss-German because the Swiss High-German is the worse of the two. I a adapt to newbies for a while but after some time I expect you to understand my native tongue. It's the way I naturally speak. I don't mind if you speak your own language (as long as it's German, English, even French might work (haven't used it in a long time)).
I agree with the amount of deference foreigners should have towards the native language in the Deutsch-Schweiz (Swiss-German). However, it's not that simple. In the Swiss school system you are required to speak High-German if you go to school in the Deutsch-Schweiz. That may be a soft rule that is enforced unequally throughout different schools in that region, but a student's education through high school (Oberstufe) is mostly communicated to him/her in High-German. At least in my experience it was. (I went to school in Kanton Zurich and Thurgau) So the ability to converse in High-German is there with most Swiss people. Plus Swiss-German is not a written language, it is only spoken. ( There are attempts to write in Swiss-German but everyone's interpretation of the language is different). Additionally, many dialects vary so much that people from different Kanton's make fun of each others accents. (Thurgauer vs. Zurcher or Berner vs. Zurcher). So when I hear Swiss people conversing with Germans in Swiss-German instead of German, I interpret it as an indirect way of punishing Germans for not speaking Swiss-German. Whether that's fair or not is a different story but it's a mild form of humiliation or "erniedrigung" in my opinion.

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Sticking rigidly in the centre lane of a 3-lane highway, even if the inside lane is empty as far as the eye can see. Especially on the hill coming up from Vevey
They probably learned to drive in Italy.

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I agree with the amount of deference foreigners should have towards the native language in the Deutsch-Schweiz (Swiss-German). However, it's not that simple. In the Swiss school system you are required to speak High-German if you go to school in the Deutsch-Schweiz. That may be a soft rule that is enforced unequally throughout different schools in that region, but a student's education through high school (Oberstufe) is mostly communicated to him/her in High-German. At least in my experience it was. (I went to school in Kanton Zurich and Thurgau) So the ability to converse in High-German is there with most Swiss people. Plus Swiss-German is not a written language, it is only spoken. ( There are attempts to write in Swiss-German but everyone's interpretation of the language is different). Additionally, many dialects vary so much that people from different Kanton's make fun of each others accents. (Thurgauer vs. Zurcher or Berner vs. Zurcher). So when I hear Swiss people conversing with Germans in Swiss-German instead of German, I interpret it as an indirect way of punishing Germans for not speaking Swiss-German. Whether that's fair or not is a different story but it's a mild form of humiliation or "erniedrigung" in my opinion.
regarding the bold part: I consider this complete nonsense. Or are the Brits talking American-English in School? No they talk their own language. Educating our children should be done in the one language that is natural to them which, in this part of the world, is some slang of Swiss-German.

Writing SG works just fine, I even understand written Bern-Deutsch and all others. It's a matter of training I guess

Yeah, making fun of non-Zurich people is always great

But seriously, like I mentioned, I do adapt to newbies but after a year of living here, as a German, come on you should understand me pretty well already. I don't think of it as a humiliation, absolutely not. What's great is, every now and then, I have discussions about particular words (be it SG or HG) and it makes me think more about my own language and what some words actually mean.

Ok, ok... I can be pretty mean, talking SG from the first day someone new is here and if you're not exposed to the SG at all then how are you going to get used to it? Some German friends have even told me about situations back in Germany when suddenly, they use Swiss words or sayings and get weird looks from their old friends That's how everyone changes over time.
Oh and, Bavarian people don't need any adaption time at all. Bavaria should be part of Switzerland anyway (Weissbier, Weisswürstel, Bretzen, Süsser Senf... Epic!! ) but that's a whole different topic

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Hating /hated ???? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wolly


I am not swiss then!! I have nothing agings Germans,or AustriansI maybe dislike some individuals but hating
even TYPICAL Swiss then, because most Swiss do not "hate" Germans, only dislike some (German) individuals
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No what I meant was during my time at school (Primarschule) in Switzerland as a kid the Swiss Military was stationed at our school. They performed military exercises at our gym and would hand out chocolate to us if we asked them for it. I only had the dark military chocolate. I agree its really good. I'm a big fan of Traubenzucker myself, but I'm also Swiss so no surprise.



Well that might be different from my experience, because every time I was at a "Lager" whether it was through school, Ice Hockey or Cevi we were served iced herbal tea. I liked it when there was enough sugar.

actually I was thinking of the Fasnacht parade in Winterthur. I would opine that they have a decent parade, not as good as Basel or Luzern.

actually I was thinking of places like the USA, South America, Asia or Africa. Case in point last autumn I was Glouchester, MA, USA on a whale watching tour. My girlfriend and I happened to sit next to Swiss people, from Kanton Schwyz of all places. I've met Swiss vacationers in Indonesia, L.A and New York. I think its cool that Swiss travel quite a bit, may it be because of the extra vacation time or because of the strong CHF.
- only dark chocolate can be done with a relatively high melting point
- at our football-club, we had this herbal-tea (Pfeffermünz-Tee / mint-tea), which was the cheapest thing available, until the next coach, much to my liking, replaced the stuff by some decent black tea
- travelling internationally started right in the 1950ies, when the CHF was not yet as strong as now. That however most Swiss people were used to "crossing borders" and to the strange fact that other people have the unpleasant habit to speak "Ausländisch" ! for sure helped them when travelling elsewhere. Let's not forget that in the 1950ies into 60ies, most holiday destinations were in the Italian regions of Liguria, Toscana and Emiglia Romagna.
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Spoken like a true Zurichois for all the Swiss...
If you exchange the nations and figures, it works for most areas (except Graubünden and Geneva) but from most places, the farthest neighbour country is less than 250kms away. More special even is that at least 30% of all Swiss live in areas less than 30kms away from the next border
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The taste.

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I in my first 12 or so years was used to milk delivered by the milkman fresh, then to pasteurized milk (of which I did not like the taste), and then later to
UHT milk (of which I regard the taste as the same as the fresh stuff)
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I in my first 12 or so years was used to milk delivered by the milkman fresh, then to pasteurized milk (of which I did not like the taste), and then later to
UHT milk (of which I regard the taste as the same as the fresh stuff)
I can drink UHT milk on cereal and even put it in coffee but for some reason it makes black tea taste weird.

Also, (although this could just be my cooking skills) I find it takes ages to make a white sauce or custard thicken. "Normal" pasteurised milk speeds the process along a lot quicker. I'm comparing like for like, too - (i.e. milk drink with the same fat content).
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I can drink UHT milk on cereal and even put it in coffee but for some reason it makes black tea taste weird.

Also, (although this could just be my cooking skills) I find it takes ages to make a white sauce or custard thicken. "Normal" pasteurised milk speeds the process along a lot quicker. I'm comparing like for like, too - (i.e. milk drink with the same fat content).
oooops ! I never use full Swiss milk on black tea ! In case of drinking tea with milk use "Magermilch" --- any kind of milk with a reduced cntent of "Niiidlel"
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Re: Things Swiss People Like

I don't know if they like it, but there'll always pop out someone who'd tell you that you can't park you car here and there (even if you only stop to pick up a friend.. in which case he/she is watching you until you leave)
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