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Nanomania and statistics

Collecting things with our children and grand-children can be great fun, and that is wonderful. However, an article in the FRC consumer association magazine for Romandie made me think. They have a very cynical and perhaps realistic view of such 'offers' - which every time boosts sales by a significant percentage. 50 million of Nanos were given out in the past 4 weeks, some more becoming available soon, as some shops 'run dry' of some items. For some jokers, like Luxibus and DJ Starlight- a minimum of 60CHF had to be spent, instead of CHF20 for the others- which seriously boosted sales for that period. A billion was spent during the availability period- the article does not make it clear to what extent this was higher than normal.

With each Nano weighing 8 to 9 gr, FRC estimates the amount of extra rubbish (as most Nanos will end up in the bin sooner or later) to be
400 to 450 tons! These will be incinerated like other rubbish, including the medal ball inside which cannot be easily separated (I've tried using a hammer after reading the article, NOT easy). Infrarouge, a TV programme, is currently trying to find a way to get rid of Nanos in a more ecological way- but has not come up with a solutions yet. FRC's facebook page is currently running a NanoBasta campaign to try and stop the huge waste created by such offers- production, transport and disposal. They are proposing that everybody who wishes to throw their Nanos away take them back to their Migros shop! In the meantime FRC reminds us that such 'offers' will continue on a regular basis if we, the customers, 'bite' but will soon go away if we do not. No wish to be a spoil sport - but it is worth thinking about the background and realities.
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If people are dumb enough to cave in... (do I need to complete the sentence?)
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If people are dumb enough to cave in... (do I need to complete the sentence?)
It's probably a telling sign of my parenting skills but when you have a wee fella pestering you and chivvying at your elbow and you have the world's longest queue behind you in Migros, caving in doesn't come from being dumb, it comes from a wish to get the hell out of the shop with your shopping and sanity intact.

Booo-hiss to Migros for giving parents no escape route (except maybe Coop, of course ).
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It's probably a telling sign of my parenting skills but when you have a wee fella pestering you and chivvying at your elbow and you have the world's longest queue behind you in Migros, caving in doesn't come from being dumb, it comes from a wish to get the hell out of the shop with your shopping and sanity intact.

Booo-hiss to Migros for giving parents no escape route (except maybe Coop, of course ).
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What? Childrens toys generating unecessary garbage? That's why I give my kids rocks and sticks to play with. It's not cuz I'm cheap, it's cuz I'm being "eco-friendly"
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Our cat walked into the kitchen the other day with something odd hanging off her collar, it was a nano stuck to her cat-flap magnet.
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Our cat walked into the kitchen the other day with something odd hanging off her collar, it was a nano stuck to her cat-flap magnet.
It did take me several throws to achieve that, but the first few goes were probably a bit too hard, as the nanos just bounced off her head. The gentler lob worked.
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Re: Nanomania and statistics

The article says exactly what many of us were saying on the Nano's thread. Nothing new here, but it just confirmed that we were right!

I am no Saint, I am no wiser than any other parents. But this Nano mania freak show made me learn something very important about what is coming next when my kids will be at the age of getting trap into those promotions.

Hopefully I'll be smart and strong enough to not cave in.
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And no Migros where you are heading, lol
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And no Migros where you are heading, lol

Anyway - just for a bit of fun, and to do our EF bit for ecology - can anybody come up with a creative way of using unwanted Nanos. Keep it clean - well sort of.
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It did take me several throws to achieve that, but the first few goes were probably a bit too hard, as the nanos just bounced off her head. The gentler lob worked.
The clues are already there.
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Drill holes in them and make necklaces/bracelets. Could double-up as magical health-magnet accessories
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Re: Nanomania and statistics

That's a very interesting statistic. Thanks for having posted it!
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Implant them under your skin to infuriate airport security staff.
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Plenty of metal in my legs to do that already (and M&S underwire bra - gets them every time!).
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I make jewellery as a hobby and that actually sounds like an interesting idea! I don't have and kids and I gave all my Nanos away though...

Anyone fancy posting some to me?

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I like Infrarouge, and plan on subscribing another consumer safety mag. What is frustrating, though, that at the end, all issues end up in a similar way. Hype over just barely proved facts here that are in fact already acknowledged abroad. No legislature to go after the menace and take reasonable steps. The mags do lack the depth of info, as if they assumed people who are reading are complete simpletons. For example the categories in safety/health concerns for cosmetic/food/kid products are often very formal and useless, the real info on content isn't there (they will tell you it is made in CH and exact price but if it contains toxins that are banned elsewhere they won't)

The Nano campaign is only very visible since Migros has made a fortune. The fact they have been milking the lack of public health/safety legislature for so long never interested anyone. They have been distributing dominos (how much garbage is that? Or are those biodegradable?), through their canteens/restos they gave so much plastic/useless garbage to kids for their kid menus, it's a trend that only became visible when the cash issue linked to Nanos appeared. Is anyone going after McDs and their pointless Happy Meals toys? Burger King? All those companies are trying to increase sales, so it would be a tad hypocritical to go only after Migros. This culture is not a culture of marketing and freebies much, so it is slowly creeping in, it will be a lot more intense soon. I can imagine people thought they might be getting these toys for free, or something.

I have a major issue with Nanos, since people went after it like crazy and overspent, becoming even more loyal to your pseudo community "family" shop. I think if some kids got some, who cares. But the whole timing, lack of planning, running out, arrogance of some cashiers who were very choosy with who will get them and who will not, and the completely ignored safety issue...Just another, not really thought through campaign (well, aside of the money generating).

Ok, phew, my rant of the month is over.
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There are 2 main consumer assocs + mags in Romandie 'Bon à savoir' et 'FRC'. I agree that compared to WHICH is the UK for instance, they are too small and without any clout. I've written to both to say it does not make sense to have 2 for such a small area and that it would be better to join forces, rather than compete with each other. Their reply was 'interesting but blablabla'!

Good points made MusicChick - perhaps it is time we refuse to be taken in by such 'free' offers and realise we are being taken for (an expensive and very wasteful) ride. It's just that we 'expect' MacDo to do that by now, but not the Saintly Migros I'm certainly glad FRC is having a campaign to make people more aware, and make a 'more informed' choice.

BTW I also got 'caught' - and collected some to keep here for when grand-children come over. BTW I've got a voucher for DJ Starlight, available from 19.4 - which i won't be using (visiting little ones in UK). Does anybody want it? Send snail mail by pm and I'll send it.

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Bon a savoir is great for French (also a tv program, interesting how little the region is, it does have tv/press/web to protect customers but virtually zero legislature to protect)and I completely agree with you, for how horrifically expensive it is here to actually have our own press (everything gets imported here from France, except very few mags), 2 don't make sense...

Unless..

There are different manufacturers/gov bodies invested in those mags and control of info.

I am so grateful to my colleagues who fill me in daily on sketchy things. Integrated within the community is priceless. Mags/TV/webs are super handy, but the word that gets spread is invaluable, and I am not talking about hyped up scandals, rather info on quality and services.

I am glad, too, Nanomania gets inspected. If only for bunch of kids that had no cash for them , it really was expensive.
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