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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

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One does not "slurp" soup. One sips one's soup silently from the side of one's soup spoon.
Thanks for the vocab... replaced with the right word above, it was exactly what I meant, just wrong vocab. Sorry for my shortcomings in English.

So English sipping from the side is one thing, putting the tip of the pointy spoon frontally into the mouth is continental. Tools must be used the way they were intended.
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

Geez, is this really an 18 page thread about soup spoons? I read the first few pages and then skipped to the end and yes, still talking about soup spoons! What about grapefruit spoons or espresso spoons (demi-tasse)? Aren't they worthy of equal attention?
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

We didn't want to confuse the Swiss with all the types of English spoons in one Thread. I don't think Wollishofener has got the soup ones right yet!
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Old 21.07.2011, 18:22
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Geez, is this really an 18 page thread about soup spoons? I read the first few pages and then skipped to the end and yes, still talking about soup spoons! What about grapefruit spoons or espresso spoons (demi-tasse)? Aren't they worthy of equal attention?
What about them? No, they're not, not in a thread about soup spoons.


Feel free to start a thread about one or the other, tho' Or indeed, both...
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We didn't want to confuse the Swiss with all the types of English spoons in one Thread. I don't think Wollishofener has got the soup ones right yet!
He probably know this goes very well with milk bowl and Foifliber, a hammered dulcimer, and Swiss Oergeli.
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In your link, the 'Swiss' bouillon spoon looks pretty similar to the English soup spoon.

And although your link purports to show a wide range of cutlery items, I think that most of them are fairly recent imports from France and the U.K. where formal dining has existed for far longer.

And you can't get those bouillion spoons easily here, anyway.
Some GB expats complained (see farther above) that it is impossible to get them here



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There are two ways of eating soup, thus two main shapes of spoons:
1. Lateral sipping = round shaped
2. Frontal eating = lengthy shaped

Depending on whether good manners demands 1 or 2, you will find generally the corresponding shape of spoon in said country.

P.S. lateral sipping is rude in France, remember that when you go to a 3-stars michelin. Just sayin'....
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One does not "slurp" soup. One sips one's soup silently from the side of one's soup spoon.
From the side ? You rather sip it silently and efficiently right from the front. Which is much easier


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The French of course are right
Well, there's a first time for everything. Unfortunately, it's still not time.

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You rather sip it silently and efficiently right from the front. Which is much easier
No Wolli, one doesn't, if one was brought up properly. You might, but one doesn't. Easier still is to put the bowl to one's lips and pour, but even the french don't do that
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

This is why the Swiss eat salads.
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This is why the Swiss eat salads.
Ooooooh, don't push that particular button!!!



"And so, my fellow Gastronomes, ask not why the Swiss eat their salads, rather ask how they eat their salads!"

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Well, there's a first time for everything. Unfortunately, it's still not time.



No Wolli, one doesn't, if one was brought up properly. You might, but one doesn't. Easier still is to put the bowl to one's lips and pour, but even the french don't do that
No, the French, as outlined above, know how to do such things
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No, the French, as outlined above, know how to do such things
I personally don't care how people eat their soup, but it is definitly bad manners not to know the good manners expected in a given restaurant in a given place, be it in France, in the UK or on the moon.
Discussions about manners are heated here so I keep it short, but looking at the shape of the spoon just tells the soup eater how to eat it. Simple.

An other detail: it is rude in continental Europa to keep your hands under the table (on your lap) during dinner when not eating whereas that's the expected good manner in the UK. I've noticed numerous differences of this kind. The vegy eating tricks with the fork, f.ex. also the opposite continent/UK. Generally speaking, I regret the disparition for knif-holders in restaurants. I'm a snob, I know.
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An other detail: it is rude in continental Europa to keep your hands under the table (on your lap) during dinner when not eating
And rightly so! One needs to know where a Frenchman's hands are at all times
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

There we go again, folks: My upbringing is right, everybody else's is wrong.

When in the USA, I still cut my steak as I eat it, in order to keep the big chunk warm. It's not because of my upbringing, but because it's practical. For Americans, however, it's a sign of bad upbringing.

You should see their faces when I tell them that their way of first cutting all the meat down to tiny pieces, then switching the fork from the left to the right hand actually dates back to the years before the advent of toilet paper, when the left hand was the dirty one, not to be used for shoveling stuff in your mouth, which still shows in the fact that in many languages the word for the opposite of "left" still is the same as the word for "correct."
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My upbringing is right, everybody else's is wrong.


That can't be right. You're not English!
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

In fact, the Latin word for "left" is "sinister."

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You should see their faces when I tell them that their way of first cutting all the meat down to tiny pieces, then switching the fork from the left to the right hand actually dates back to the years before the advent of toilet paper, when the left hand was the dirty one, not to be used for shoveling stuff in your mouth, which still shows in the fact that in many languages the word for the opposite of "left" still is the same as the word for "correct."
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In fact, the Latin word for "left" is "sinister."
just in contrast to Arabic where "Socialist" and "Justice" (Ishtiraqiya) are the same word
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In fact, the Latin word for "left" is "sinister."
Indeed, and the Latin for "right" is curiously close to the descriptor for, erm, the penultimate point of the digestive tract, shall we say. Which throws the claim that "left" is for the bogroll into contention.

But we digress from soup spoons!
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You should see their faces when I tell them that their way of first cutting all the meat down to tiny pieces, then switching the fork from the left to the right hand actually dates back to the years before the advent of toilet paper, when the left hand was the dirty one, not to be used for shoveling stuff in your mouth, which still shows in the fact that in many languages the word for the opposite of "left" still is the same as the word for "correct."
I had the impression this comes, at least in America, from the wild western times where you always had one hand on your Smith & Wesson. Otherwise you risked, as we Swiss say, to hand over your spoon too soon.
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That can't be right. You're not English!
My opinion too.

All this talk about foreign dining etiqutte and its superiority is simply a joke.

It is us who have set the proper standard worldwide and for a long time too, as far back as the time when the Romans left us I suppose.
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My opinion too.

All this talk about foreign dining etiqutte and its superiority is simply a joke.

It is us who have set the proper standard worldwide and for a long time too, as far back as the time when the Romans left us I suppose.
You might clarify who you mean by "us"
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