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Old 22.07.2011, 15:05
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

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> The Normans were related to their Norwegian "cousins", sure, but were the folks of the Normandie. The only part of the Normandie, which remained with the English monarchy is Jersey+Guernsey
I remember going to German evening classes in the U.K. with a linguistic scholar.

One day she came into the class in a very excited manner; a copy of the bible had just been discovered in Guernsey, written in GuernÚsiais, the original Norman language spoken there.

We didn't share her excitement.
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OK, a potted history for those who left school a very long time ago...

End of the last Ice Age: migrants wander over to the peninsular that would later become the island of Great Britain. Their descendants are still there, but call themselves English, Scottish or Welsh, depending upon where they live.

1st Century BC: Either the Celts arrive and take control of British society or the Britons take on aspects of Celtic culture because it is so dominant on the continent at the time (archeologists are still arguing over this one)

1st Century AD: The Romans arrive and build roads and stuff.

5th - 6th Centuries AD: The Romans bugger off home because Rome is threatened by Barbarians. Several Germanic tribes arrive in Britain and take all the best jobs and women. Some Britons flee to Wales, Cornwall and Brittany. Most probably stay and become English.

8th Century or thereabouts: the Danes arrive and take over half the country. They eventually became Yorkshire folk. Which really does explain a lot.

1066: The Normans arrive and build castles. They are very nasty. They speak French, even though they are really Norwegian.

There you go. We're all Britons, with the exception of a few people in Essex, Suffolk and Kent. We just call ourselves "English", "Welsh" or "Scottish" because the Romantic poets were obsessed with nationalism, blood and soil and all that nonsense.

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Sorry that is so over simplified!! C'mon DB The English are not and never have been Britons!
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Old 22.07.2011, 15:29
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The pedant minute of the overpaid teacher: Nordmann-territories did not necesserily mean the ones know today as Norway. Nordmannen were all people coming from the costal regions of today's southern Norway, Danmark and south-west swedish cost. That means that we can not now with certainty whether the Normands invading Hastings were great children of Norwegian, Danish or Scanian Vikings.
Spoilsport!!! Fancy introducing facts into such a fascinatingly uninformed discussion!
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OK, a potted history for those who left school a very long time ago...

End of the last Ice Age: migrants wander over to the peninsular that would later become the island of Great Britain. Their descendants are still there, but call themselves English, Scottish or Welsh, depending upon where they live.

1st Century BC: Either the Celts arrive and take control of British society or the Britons take on aspects of Celtic culture because it is so dominant on the continent at the time (archeologists are still arguing over this one)

1st Century AD: The Romans arrive and build roads and stuff.

5th - 6th Centuries AD: The Romans bugger off home because Rome is threatened by Barbarians. Several Germanic tribes arrive in Britain and take all the best jobs and women. Some Britons flee to Wales, Cornwall and Brittany. Most probably stay and become English.

8th Century or thereabouts: the Danes arrive and take over half the country. They eventually became Yorkshire folk. Which really does explain a lot.

1066: The Normans arrive and build castles. They are very nasty. They speak French, even though they are really Norwegian.

There you go. We're all Britons, with the exception of a few people in Essex, Suffolk and Kent. We just call ourselves "English", "Welsh" or "Scottish" because the Romantic poets were obsessed with nationalism, blood and soil and all that nonsense.

HTH
Peninsula. (It's sooooo good to pick DB up on spelling.)

But what has all this to do with soup spoons?
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Old 22.07.2011, 17:06
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Genetic research doesn't really work anymore as we are all interbread.
...and we were inter dipping our bread inter our soup, which enabled us to consume it witbout worrying about sipping delicately from the side of the (round!) spoon but would have had us, if we were caught at it, eating standing up in the kitchen as punishment.
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...and we were inter dipping our bread inter our soup, which enabled us to consume it witbout worrying about sipping delicately from the side of the (round!) spoon but would have had us, if we were caught at it, eating standing up in the kitchen as punishment.
Never had to do that. Infact I was always bollocked for eating standing up!
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Wrong generation, mate.
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We just call ourselves "English", "Welsh" or "Scottish" because the Romantic poets were obsessed with nationalism, blood and soil and all that nonsense.
No, we don't. We call ourselves "Scots".
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Wrong generation, mate.
Probably not the wrong generation, My parents probably thought I'd be happy standing!
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