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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

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Fairy nuff.

For what it's worth, though, I think Europeans who use chopsticks where there are knives and forks available are pretentious knobheads.
I think it is not pretentious at all. Asian cuisine culture does not stop at "duck fried rice" and I enjoy to go to authentic places - and this includes to eat it in the authentic way.

BTW, just as I always advocate to at least try to learn German and try to integrate a bit if you decide to live here - the same is true for any other culture - people will respect you more if you at least try to eat they way they do and not bring your own English silverware with you... You used to be a more open, I guess you are too long in central Switzerland already.
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There is nothing 'closed minded' about choosing to use utensils with which one is comfortable when one eats. I can use chopsticks, but where there is an alternative available, I use it.

The same applies, to bring this thread back on topic, to the use of proper soup spoons.
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Old 05.04.2011, 12:39
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

The soup spoon thing is probably all of the continent as far as I can make out.
However there are countries where they eat sandwiches (even crunchy toasted ones) pastries, cakes etc. all with whopping big knives and forks. Try cutting a salad sandwich without the filling becoming an unguided misile!
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

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There is nothing 'closed minded' about choosing to use utensils with which one is comfortable when one eats. I can use chopsticks, but where there is an alternative available, I use it.
Your statement on insisting to use a fork for sushi reminds me of an extremely funny scene in the Japanese movie, "Tampopo". The Japanese really dislike losing "face". So in one scene some ladies are taking strict anal-retentive lessons on Western food etiquette and the proper way to spaghetti with a fork. Then they watch in horror at the next table where a man is chowing down on his spaghetti with chopsticks!

So in your case if you were in Japan, I'll bet all the European tourists in the sushi bar will be looking at you in horror as you "properly" eat your sushi in the English manner!
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I think it is not pretentious at all. Asian cuisine culture does not stop at "duck fried rice" and I enjoy to go to authentic places - and this includes to eat it in the authentic way.

BTW, just as I always advocate to at least try to learn German and try to integrate a bit if you decide to live here - the same is true for any other culture - people will respect you more if you at least try to eat they way they do and not bring your own English silverware with you... You used to be a more open, I guess you are too long in central Switzerland already.
Since when has silverwear been English. I believe all Europeans eat with silverwear or have I missed something?
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There is nothing 'closed minded' about choosing to use utensils with which one is comfortable when one eats.
No, but calling everyone who has a different opinion "knobhead" is in my eyes... everyone to his own.

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The same applies, to bring this thread back on topic, to the use of proper soup spoons.
And, indeed, to the proper use of said proper soup spoons.

The reason for using the soup spoon in a motion away from one is, of course, to touch the bottom of one's spoon on the far rim of the bowl, to remove any soup hiding there and not have it down the front of one's clothes.


And the reason for the UK's propensity for the washing-up bowl ( plastic these days, but I can remember enamelled metal ones ) inside the "sink proper" is summed up in one word - hygiene.
Yes, believe it or not, even in the UK there was a time before "2.5sinks, dish washer, utility room" was the norm.
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No, but calling everyone who has a different opinion "knobhead" is in my eyes... everyone to his own.

That video may have some relevance to the discussion of soup spoons, but I'll never know. Perhaps it's my lack of integration that's to blame, but sadly, like many on this forum, I can't understand the strange words emanating from the mouth of the woman in the video.

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Old 05.04.2011, 13:11
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So, I guess if you were in the U.S., you would eat a hamburger with a knife and fork as well, rather than as than with your hands as the locals do?
I sure do.
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I do. Cant stand all that blurge on my fingers.
I absolutely agree. I wouldn't object if the whole barbary where limited to McDonald's and suchlike, but there are also rather decent restaurants with white tablecloths, woven napkins, upholstered chairs, candles and all the other bells and whistles, but they have burgers and sandwiches on their menu, each of them at least 5 inches thicks, with everything inside, including soup, salad and dessert (well, at least it's a lot of high-fructose corn syrup anyway). Even after squeezing it with all your force, without the special American kind of jaw hinge (articulation temporo-mandibularis americana in correct medical jargon) you just cannot put it in your mouth without dislocating the joint.

Then you look around you and you see your friends (all of them, of course with an impeccable up-bringing and education) gleefully devouring those giant chunks, with rolled-up sleeves, all the sauce running down their forearms and dripping on the white cloth, their pants etc.. So you decide you rather use a fork and knife. That's what I do. Fortunately, Americans are tolerant enough not to make snide remarks -- those I know anyway. They do not even give me funny looks, which I very much appreciate.
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Soup spoons ... six pages.

Soup spoons.
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Since when has silverwear been English. I believe all Europeans eat with silverwear or have I missed something?
Most of what you call silverware is not silver, neither in England, the British Isles in general nor on the continent.
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Most of what you call silverware is not silver, neither in England, the British Isles in general nor on the continent.
I believe that most people are aware of that but it is an English language word describing knives, forks, spoons (inc. soup spoons). Be they made of the metal or not!
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Re: Soup Spoons [and other things "missing" in Switzerland]

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Fairy nuff.

For what it's worth, though, I think Europeans who use chopsticks where there are knives and forks available are pretentious knobheads.
Firstly the subject was why don't they use soup spoons here is Ch, which is a valid question.
We have been to many Asian Countries and always use chop sticks for no other reason than embracing the culture, and being polite. Do you know anything about such things?
So does that make us Knobheads?
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DB you are aware that you eat Lokum with your fingers, don't you?
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DB you are aware that you eat Lokum with your fingers, don't you?
I'm guessing he doesn't, actually.

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Firstly the subject was why don't they use soup spoons here is Ch, which is a valid question.
We have been to many Asian Countries and always use chop sticks for no other reason than embracing the culture, and being polite. Do you know anything about such things?
So does that make us Knobheads?
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Is there really a need for personal insults?
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Firstly the subject was why don't they use soup spoons here is Ch, which is a valid question.
We have been to many Asian Countries and always use chop sticks for no other reason than embracing the culture, and being polite. Do you know anything about such things?
So does that make us Knobheads?
You really are a Legend in your (Own Lunch Box!!!)
So can we conclude that you have to adapt a bit to the country you go to? Use chopsticks in Asia and be willing to sacrifice your soup spoons or dessert forks when eating in a cantine in Switzerland? (Good restaurants surely have them... in the case of the dessert forks I actually believe even the Migros restaurants have them...)
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Most of what you call silverware is not silver, neither in England, the British Isles in general nor on the continent.
One's butler confirms that standards elsewhere may have slipped somewhat since Queen Victoria (may God bless her) departed. He also mentioned something about people drinking wine without it having being decanted. Honestly!
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So can we conclude that you have to adapt a bit to the country you go to? Use chopsticks in Asia and be willing to sacrifice your soup spoons or dessert forks when eating in a cantine in Switzerland? (Good restaurants surely have them... in the case of the dessert forks I actually believe even the Migros restaurants have them...)
With a sound conclusion comes closure.
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Back open ... but please, keep personal insults out of this forum.

Also, if the thread wanders back off the "things mising from Switzerland" theme, it will be moved into the General Off-Topic forum.
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