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...I know that this child came here illegally but she's not doing anyone any harm.
Well, the child was brought here illegally. It's a subtle, but important difference.

If the parents, as seems to be the case, broke immigration law, then I'm sure the authorities have done the right thing. No question as far as I am concerned. However, it doesn't mean that my daughter and her friends, who are here perfectly legally btw, feel any better about it, nor that the lass in question hasn't also been torn away from her friends, by the action of a third party over which she will have little or no control. This to my mind is pretty horrible thing for anyone to go through.

As I said at the start. It's all very sad. And that was the point I wished to share when starting this thread. Before the xenophobe(s) started their knee-jerk slathering.
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Not mine - but that of a classmate of my daughter's. (Swiss school)

There was a girl in their class, who started at the school six months ago. She was quite a popular lass. Today, the class teacher informed the class (ages 13-14) that the girl and her family had been deported. They're all very upset - my daughter was in tears.

It seems that the family had been in Germany, then came to Switzerland. Somehow, the German authorities found out that the family were here, and informed the Swiss, who then acted to deport them back to Germany, from where, it seems, they'll be deported to Kosovo. Obviously there were irregularities.

I don't know the ins and outs. But it's clear that this poor kid, who is innocent of any wrong-doing is the one who loses out. And her friends. It's all very sad.
A similar thing happened in my hometown in the UK but the residents kicked up a huge stink, contacted the local paper, collected loads of signatures and generally made their voice heard.

They argued that the kids were more British than their original nationality and were settled in school and had friends and a life. The girls in the family would have been forced to give up school if they were sent back and it was inhuman for them to be sent back to what is essentially an alien culture.

I know that girls are schooled in Kosovo and it's probably not all that bad there but couldn't the local people and the school start some kind of campaign, basing it on the effects of a major upheaval to the young girl of the family?
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Re: "My best friend just got deported"

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I know that girls are schooled in Kosovo and it's probably not all that bad there but couldn't the local people and the school start some kind of campaign, basing it on the effects of a major upheaval to the young girl of the family?
maybe the locals are sick of illegal immigrants?
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:09
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exactly. some bleeding hearts don't seem to understand this
Did your brain get deported? No one has said that everyone should be allowed to stay. Even the OP didn't say that the family should be allowed to stay. He simply said that it's sad, as the child and her friends are affected through no choices they made themselves.

All this "bleeding heart" right wing crap - you're on the wrong thread.
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maybe the locals are sick of illegal immigrants?
There's very few immigrants, legal or otherwise, in our Gemeinde. Except for Nils.

@Sandgrounder: I don't the family were integrated enough to get that kind of support.
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yes, illegal immigrants are very popular in the UK. NOT!
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:12
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Troll alert. What a prat.
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There's very few immigrants, legal or otherwise, in our Gemeinde.
do you fell deprived? they are plenty of neighbourhoods you can move to where you can enjoy all the benefits of illegal immigration
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Re: "My best friend just got deported"

Yes, it's sad but could you show me where the following 'right' is enshrined as law anywhere?

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Since after all it is pure accident where we are born and it a fundamental right to travel and live elsewhere
Many countries have rights of free travel within their borders, and they have rights to leave and to return (for citizens) I don't believe any states, even the UN, state that travel and habitation anywhere you choose is a natural right.
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Troll alert. What a prat.
you are unable to engage in rational debate
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exactly. some bleeding hearts don't seem to understand this
I don't mind someone having bleeding heart but then they should put their money where their mouth is.

NotAllThere why don't you sponsor this kid and send her CHF 1000 every month so she can have a fabulous life in Kosovo? Also sponsor her to visit Switzerland regularly on holiday so your kid can play with her?

Friends come and go when you are a kid or even an adult. Your child will get over it so stop being so melodramatic.
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:15
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Re: "My best friend just got deported"

Yes, the authorities have a job to do and the parents messed up, but in these sorts of situations anywhere, it's the children that always suffer the most IMHO.

Poor child. I hope she will be okay...
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:15
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I refer readers to this thread. And reiterate what I said there: "I can only think you are either very silly or deliberately trolling.". Two strikes.

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Old 14.04.2011, 15:16
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I refer readers to this thread. And reiterate what I said there: "I can only think you are either very silly or deliberately trolling.". Two strikes.
you linked the rep giving thing ...

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this kid's family are illegal immigrants and now they have been deported. The alternative is a free for all.
There is no alternative to a fact, they have been deported period.

No one is discussing THAT.
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:20
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Old 14.04.2011, 15:21
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We simply cannot have it both ways.

There are too many foreign children in my child's class at school and she is not making the progress she should.
We should be nice to folk who come over here to look for a job and let them live off our taxes until they find one.
I cannot find a flat as a hundred people apply for each one I see.
I'll happily pay higher sickness benefit premiums so that newcomers with small children can have free health care.
I feel scared when I walk home in the dark late at night as there are so many groups of teenagers wandering about and I cannot understand what they are saying.
I cannot find a job as there are too many applicants.
It doesn't feel like Switzerland any more as in the train I only hear foregin languages.
I know that this child came here illegally but she's not doing anyone any harm.
Erm...

- nobody said they should be allowed to live from "our" taxes
- nobody asked for free healthcare.
- it's not the teenagers fault if you are scared of foreigners without them doing anything but talking to each other
- Switzerland has always been a melting pot in the middle of Europe. It is quintessentially Swiss in the most positive sense for me that I hear so many different languages in the street.
- flats are in high demand in the cities and yes, it is hard to find a good one for a decent price. Foreigners typically have the harder time to find one and are in no way preferred by landlords. The "the many foreigners push up the rents" followed by "they are dumping our salaries" is the default argument by the SVP - and makes no sense at all. Either or but not both. I personally do believe in a free market and do not believe in a constitutional right to be granted an appartment in the inner city on an average income.
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Re: "My best friend just got deported"

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A similar thing happened in my hometown in the UK but the residents kicked up a huge stink, contacted the local paper, collected loads of signatures and generally made their voice heard.

They argued that the kids were more British than their original nationality and were settled in school and had friends and a life. The girls in the family would have been forced to give up school if they were sent back and it was inhuman for them to be sent back to what is essentially an alien culture.
We had a similar one a while back, though the discussion level was about the same...

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NotAllThere why don't you sponsor this kid and send her CHF 1000 every month so she can have a fabulous life in Kosovo? Also sponsor her to visit Switzerland regularly on holiday so your kid can play with her?
NotAllThere has gone very quite all of a sudden
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NotAllThere has gone very quite all of a sudden
Yeah - lets throw out all the people from poor countries that only leech on other tax payers money. When will you go home to Ireland?
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Re: "My best friend just got deported"

Typical internet behavior. People start threads and want everyone to sob and agree with them. If someone does not agree or does not see what the big fuss is they start ganging up lol

Girl is from Kosovo, Kosovo is not a war zone, Kosovans wanted their own country and they got it so maybe time to build it up instead of running away and being deceptive in a law abiding country like Switzerland?
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