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what is the actual height of them in centimetres ?
After the carnage wrought by the slug invasion, about 10cm of raggedy chewed-off stems.

In their full glory, my lupines are generally 60-100 cm. The first year they tend to be small-ish, ca 30-40 cm. They reach their full height the second or third year. Fantastic flowers.

In some climates, lupines can grow even taller.

(As for the on-going Schneckenkreig... oh how I wish the hedgehog family would come back!)
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Old 21.05.2011, 17:04
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Re: Rain storms!

Might be quite a good thing if you do lose some as lupins self-seed all over the place and I remember desperately trying to get rid of them.
They're not as bad as japanese anemonies, though, which are beautiful, I admit, but oh boy do they travel.
The picture of lupins you posted is beautiful. Are they your's?
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Old 21.05.2011, 17:26
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After the carnage wrought by the slug invasion, about 10cm of raggedy chewed-off stems.

In their full glory, my lupines are generally 60-100 cm. The first year they tend to be small-ish, ca 30-40 cm. They reach their full height the second or third year. Fantastic flowers.

In some climates, lupines can grow even taller.

(As for the on-going Schneckenkreig... oh how I wish the hedgehog family would come back!)
Thanks. I remember that my grandmother had some flowers of that kind, but did not speek about Lupinen but used a local name. They were between 30 and 50 cms in height. She fought against the slugs permanently and successfully. But that was back in the 50ies and 60ies. Flowershops sell "Böppeli" (the size of very large pills), but you have to ask to get a sort which is alright with hedgehogs. You ought to establish good conditions for hedgehogs (ask a specialist about this). AND you can plant Thymian and Sage right around the Lupines.
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Old 21.05.2011, 17:30
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Might be quite a good thing if you do lose some as lupins self-seed all over the place and I remember desperately trying to get rid of them.
They're not as bad as japanese anemonies, though, which are beautiful, I admit, but oh boy do they travel.
The picture of lupins you posted is beautiful. Are they your's?
The picture of the lupins is out of the internet, but reminded me of beloved Grandmum (passed away in 64). I do not have garden, only my "plantation" on the balcony, and for that the lupines are bit too high (unless I place the "container" onto the ground ! )

The ideas outlined above actually are those of her, with my memory helped by consulting google.com
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Old 21.05.2011, 17:42
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They were between 30 and 50 cms in height.
Those would be dwarf lupines - I actually like the dwarf variety better than the standard as I think they are easier to work with. When the dwarf self-seed they tend to fit in just about anywhere, don't need staking as the very tall ones sometimes do.

Hmmm... maybe the slugs have done me a favor - I'll look for the dwarf variety as replacements.
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Old 21.05.2011, 22:29
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Those would be dwarf lupines - I actually like the dwarf variety better than the standard as I think they are easier to work with. When the dwarf self-seed they tend to fit in just about anywhere, don't need staking as the very tall ones sometimes do.

Hmmm... maybe the slugs have done me a favor - I'll look for the dwarf variety as replacements.
Dwarf Lupines ! Sounds like a nice idea for an additional "container" on my balcony ! For caution I will add a bit of Thymian and Basilica to the arrangement. Not least as I love the flavour of these two, but also to protect the lupines


AND, this link
https://www.fibl-shop.org/shop/pdf/mb-lupinen.pdf
shows what the problem is. Looking back I wondered why Grandmom had them but Mom in the garden (Schrebergarten) did NOT. The reason is simply. The garden of Grandmom was in Schaffhausen in a relatively dry area (SH is much dryer than Zurich), while the one of Mum was South-Zurich near a forest with millions of slugs nearby. And looking back I now realize why Grandmom had them in a kind of elevated positions close to the housewall. So that to have them in "containers" away from the ground may be necessary.

My personal favourites then in the garden of Grandmom were these plants here



the Leuemüüli (lions mouth), which when you push them from both sides open their mouths soooo nicely ....................


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Old 22.05.2011, 16:10
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Re: Rain storms!

Another storm has just started in Zurich. It must be right above my head, I could actually feel the thunder , I've never had that before.
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Old 22.05.2011, 18:26
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Another storm has just started in Zurich. It must be right above my head, I could actually feel the thunder , I've never had that before.
When I returned from downtown at 4pm approx one shower had just passed through, but it then was almost sunny, until at 5pm it re-started but now it is almost sunny again. Very strange weather !
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Love these rain showers.... they feel refreshing.
There must be a rainbow to chase....

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Re: Rain storms!

so glad we are back talking about rain...Wolli and the other ladies threatened to take over this thread and turn in into "House & Garden Tips" one
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so glad we are back talking about rain...Wolli and the other ladies threatened to take over this thread and turn in into "House & Garden Tips" one
- to talk about rain is sooooo unbearably English beside the point that I detest rain in all its forms. I like it dry and warm.
- to talk about garden + balcony "plantations" makes sense and is productive, beside it being interesting
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Old 22.05.2011, 23:12
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Re: Rain storms!

But this is a raiiiiiin thread
Are you proposing the anti-thesis ?

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But this is a raiiiiiin thread
Are you proposing the anti-thesis ?

the ANTI-rain thesis ! That rain is ugly and evil, unless you are in a desert country, where rain is desirable.
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Mmm we have a sexy one heading our way. Gorgeous!
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Re: Rain storms!

Thank goodness the thunder has started. Have had such a headache all day and hopefully the air will get cleared. The dog got all clingy before I noticed the sky so knew something was on its way. Just hope the kids get back from the cinema before the rain starts.
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Mmm we have a sexy one heading our way. Gorgeous!
Is that a hint that I'm running late?

Looks like a storm is brewing in Zurich too
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Clouds building over Bern too.
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Is that a hint that I'm running late?

Looks like a storm is brewing in Zurich too
It's so humid out, I think it'll be a big one.
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It's so humid out, I think it'll be a big one.
Are we still talking about grumpygrapefruit?
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the Leuemüüli (lions mouth), which when you push them from both sides open their mouths soooo nicely ....................

my ex. was like that.
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