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Old 18.05.2011, 11:08
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Yesterday we had two chaps from Ireland turn up outside our office asking for directions. After giving them directions I noticed they had a satnav in their nearly new Black BMW X5 (UK registered), odd as they had full address ???

Then he gives me his sales patter about having one spare precision toolkit left and he doesn't want to take it back to UK coz of customs charges and bla bla bla... Said they were worth 1000CHF and eventually went from 400,300,200 etc... Very persistent and eventually had to be rude to get rid of him.

Saw them later in a silver Toyota Landcruiser!

Something definitely wrong here..So be on your gaurd

Luzern/Sarnen area.

PS this is the classic scam as seen on Real Hustle / Watchdog etc... Normally done with leather jackets.
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Old 18.05.2011, 11:15
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or watches, laptops, jewelry, broken bikes etc etc
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Old 18.05.2011, 11:18
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Hermes ties and the like
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Old 18.05.2011, 14:31
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Yeah. Loudspeakers, cooking pot sets...

The loudspeakers one; they even took a lunch break whilst I watched!

The van was a hire car. In Switzerland they apparently all have VD numberplates.

Why especially hire cars should come from Vaud I don't know, but a Swiss colleague told me it was usually the case.

Some years later, I was again approached by two loudspeaker scammers (different ones this time). I told them it was an old trick and they got extremely aggressive.

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Old 18.05.2011, 14:35
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Can someone explain the scam, or is it simply a ruse to engage someone in conversation?
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Can someone explain the scam, or is it simply a ruse to engage someone in conversation?
I know! Please someone explain!
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Yesterday we had two chaps from Ireland turn up..
Prehaps they should take the tool kit back home with them, maybe the queen will buy it off them to tighten up a few loose nuts around the royal household.

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Old 18.05.2011, 14:41
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The goods are either nowhere near the value offered, far east imitations, or are simply rebadged (Loudspeakers might be real cabinets with nothing inside; or cheap drivers - which you only discover when you get them home)

Basically it is a way of selling you something without you having the time to check the goods out properly. The proverbial Cat in a Bag.

Another story frequently used is: A customer ordered the item and now doesn't want it. And to save having to take them back/reverse the paperwork/reclaim customs charges/yadda, yadda.... We will offer them to you for cost price or half price - or whatever.
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they come up to you and give you a bs story about visiting a client etc etc and they have some 'sample' stock to get rid of, bargain price etc etc
note story can change, but essentially they have some stuff to sell cheap rather then take it back to the office

sometimes they will back up the quality of there gear (that you have never heard of) with an advert in some magazine

so you pay £100 for the watch, laptop, jewelery, bike, tie etc and it turns out to be tat

or in the case of the laptop (or anything boxed) they switch boxies when you're distracted and you end up buying a box containing a brick
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Old 18.05.2011, 14:48
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Like the Nigerian 419 scam, it never ceases to amaze me that people actually fall for this kind of offer.

I guess the fact that they keep trying means someone, somewhere must fall for it…
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Old 18.05.2011, 14:51
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Like the Nigerian 404 scam, it never ceases to amaze me that people actually fall for this kind of offer.

I guess the fact that they keep trying means someone, somewhere must fall for it…
It's actually the 419 scam (404 is the Atlanta areacode)..and they only succeed because they send out a plethora of emails...and eventually, one hopeless victim will take the bait.
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Old 18.05.2011, 14:53
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The Nigerian 419 advanced fee scam is extremely old and pre-internet.

As a youngster I recall being asked by my Uncle to translate a fax (he couldn't read English). It was a Nigerian scam.
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It's actually the 419 scam (404 is the Atlanta areacode)..and they only succeed because they send out a plethora of emails...and eventually, one hopeless victim will take the bait.
404... did I say 404?




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Old 18.05.2011, 14:59
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I guess the fact that they keep trying means someone, somewhere must fall for it…
Not all people come to the english forum...

I'm afraid to say there are a lot of gullible people out there who think they're too inteligent to fall for such a thing, but these scams exploit innate weaknesses in human beings, namely greed. Even if the goods are legit you might not necessarily need them but that's a whole different story.

Thanks for the heads up
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Old 18.05.2011, 15:05
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in the case of the laptop (or anything boxed) they switch boxies when you're distracted and you end up buying a box containing a brick
Some people never learn.
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404... did I say 404?
I looked for it, but...
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Old 18.05.2011, 15:16
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they come up to you and give you a bs story about visiting a client etc etc and they have some 'sample' stock to get rid of, bargain price etc etc
note story can change, but essentially they have some stuff to sell cheap rather then take it back to the office

sometimes they will back up the quality of there gear (that you have never heard of) with an advert in some magazine

so you pay £100 for the watch, laptop, jewelery, bike, tie etc and it turns out to be tat

or in the case of the laptop (or anything boxed) they switch boxies when you're distracted and you end up buying a box containing a brick
had this happen to me in a service station car park. they actually put the advert in themselves for a watch costing 500 quid, say, and then try to sell it for 100 so it does look like a good deal. quite clever i spose
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Old 18.05.2011, 15:18
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had this happen to me in a service station car park. they actually put the advert in themselves for a watch costing 500 quid, say, and then try to sell it for 100 so it does look like a good deal. quite clever i spose

same here, but in the uk, the bit a full page ad in vogue I think it was, then showed me the ad and the watch and started there patter, shame the scam had been on watchdog the week before
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Old 18.05.2011, 15:24
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Re: Scam Warning

The other day just as I was on my way to drive out from my driveway (oh....that is why it is called a driveway...because I can drive away)...anyway...driveway. I car on Dutch plates pulled in and a Dutch guy jumped out and started a long sales pitch by "I am staying at the Hilton.. (So credibility is established...yeah?) and I have some items which are leftovers from an exhibition...yada yada yada".

Fool me once but not twice mister. Some ten years ago I heard the same story at a rest area somewhere in Europe and at that time I bought 2 cases of knifes...Solingen....or wannabe Solingen, so I knew the drill.

He was told to hit the road.....
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Old 18.05.2011, 15:29
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Re: Scam Warning

Years and years ago, someone tried it on me in my hometown selling expensive watches, but my parents had given me a distrust of wideboy salesmen trying to sell expensive watches out of cars to kids with no money.

Many years later, me and a friend got ripped off for a couple hundred quid for goods that never appeared and salesman did a runner. I thought my friend knew him, but this guy had the gift of the gab, my mate had only met him moments before. Live and learn.
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