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So I was taking the kids to see my Grandad, their great grandad, 92 and still going strong. Lucid as ever, and his wife (my gandma)'s name was Lucy.

Anyway, my eldest had been banging on about Grandad and the second world war since I can remember, they must have done it in school. So my old man's old man is telling my pickney all about it, and trying to shoot down Jap Zero's (planes made by mitzubishi) with Oerlikons, a light anti-aircraft gun. He thought they were Swedish, but I reckon they must have been Swiss. Anyone know for sure? I'm betting I know one man who does...
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Willy or won't he...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oerlikon_Contraves
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Do you mean this?

EDIT - D'oh! UTH is faster than me...

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My Grandad swore that Jap Zeros were little Fokkers. Are you sure it was Mirsubishi ? Am sure I heard him right...
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My Grandad swore that Jap Zeros were little Fokkers. Are you sure it was Mirsubishi ? Am sure I heard him right...
Haven't got a clue. However, why is it impossible to mention Fokkers with the little in front??!! (and I do it too)
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Re: Oerlikons

Which reminds me:

A World War II pilot was invited to tell school children about his days in the air force.

"In 1942," he said, "the situation was tough. The Germans had a very strong air force. I remember, one day I was protecting some bombers and suddenly, out of the clouds, all these fokkers appeared."


<Several children started to giggle.>


"I looked up, and right above me was one of them little fokkers. I aimed at him and shot him down. them fokkers were swarming. I immediately realized that there was another fokker behind me."

At this the children started to laugh outright. The teacher stands up and says, "I think I should point out to you that 'Fokker' was the name of a German aircraft company."

"That's true," says the pilot, "but these fokkers were flying Messerschmidts."
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"That's true," says the pilot, "but these fokkers were flying Messerschmidts."
Manfred von Richthofen (The Red Baron) flew a Fokker (Fokker Dr.I).


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I'm betting he doesn't say!

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My Grandad swore that Jap Zeros were little Fokkers. Are you sure it was Mirsubishi ? Am sure I heard him right...
Here the full details about the MITSUBISHI A6M ZERO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero

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Which reminds me:

A World War II pilot was invited to tell school children about his days in the air force.

"In 1942," he said, "the situation was tough. The Germans had a very strong air force. I remember, one day I was protecting some bombers and suddenly, out of the clouds, all these fokkers appeared."


<Several children started to giggle.>


"I looked up, and right above me was one of them little fokkers. I aimed at him and shot him down. them fokkers were swarming. I immediately realized that there was another fokker behind me."

At this the children started to laugh outright. The teacher stands up and says, "I think I should point out to you that 'Fokker' was the name of a German aircraft company."

"That's true," says the pilot, "but these fokkers were flying Messerschmidts."

FOKKER was started in the Netherlands by NL national Anthony Fokker, who in 1912 moved to Schwerin (Mecklenburg), but in 1919 moved back to the Netherlands, where it was active until the company finally collapsed in 1996 . So, to call Fokker "a German aircraft company" is a bit stretched. Beside the point that Fokker generally was rather a CIVIL aircraft producer.

As an exception to the rule, Fokker (the R at the end must be hearable ! )
in the 1950ies built the Gloster Meteor under licence, plus of course during WW-I some
fighter-planes when they were in Schwerin





Between the wars, Fokker built the following military planes


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So I was taking the kids to see my Grandad, their great grandad, 92 and still going strong. Lucid as ever, and his wife (my gandma)'s name was Lucy.

Anyway, my eldest had been banging on about Grandad and the second world war since I can remember, they must have done it in school. So my old man's old man is telling my pickney all about it, and trying to shoot down Jap Zero's (planes made by mitzubishi) with Oerlikons, a light anti-aircraft gun. He thought they were Swedish, but I reckon they must have been Swiss. Anyone know for sure? I'm betting I know one man who does...

OERLIKON is NOT in Stockholm but since 1934 a part of the City of Zürich. The industrial group was owned by the BüHRLE family and for ages known as BüHRLE OERLIKON. When the company gradually mutated into a real estate company and the traditional industrial sites in Oerlikon were closed, the industrial Bührle Oerlikon company was merged with the Bührle subsidiary Contraves into "Oerlikon-Contraves".


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FOKKER was started in the Netherlands by NL national Anthony Fokker, who in 1912 moved to Schwerin (Mecklenburg), but in 1919 moved back to the Netherlands, where it was active until the company finally collapsed in 1996 . So, to call Fokker "a German aircraft company" is a bit stretched. Beside the point that Fokker generally was rather a CIVIL aircraft producer.

As an exception to the rule, Fokker (the R at the end must be hearable ! )
in the 1950ies built the Gloster Meteor under licence


Its a joke
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Wolli, please re-examine the humour in a few of the posts. I know it is British, but it could still be funny if you look at it hard enough.
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Wolli, please re-examine the humour in a few of the posts. I know it is British, but it could still be funny if you look at it hard enough.
Woli's serious replies to humorous posts are often funnier to me than the humorous post . (No mocko Woli- I like you man, no homo)
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Woli's serious replies to humorous posts are often funnier to me than the humorous post . (No mocko Woli- I like you man, no homo)
While the jokes are obvious, it is a bit too much for comfort.

And the Sweden-Switzerland jokes are seriously tiring, as there are absolutely too many of them, and you never are sure whether those "strangers" when visiting Bern will ask about the whereabouts of the Swiss Queen and when visiting Stockholm will miss the Matterhorn
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"strangers" when visiting Bern will ask about the whereabouts of the Swiss Queen
I think Swaziland has a king, actually.
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So my old man's old man is telling my pickney all about it, and trying to shoot down Jap Zero's (planes made by mitzubishi) with Oerlikons, a light anti-aircraft gun. He thought they were Swedish, but I reckon they must have been Swiss. Anyone know for sure? I'm betting I know one man who does...
Maybe the confusion is due to the other famous naval anti-aircraft gun at the time the Bofors, which was indeed of Swedish design.

Isn't neutrality a wondeful thing?
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But no Matterhorn !
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But no Matterhorn !
The king is allowed to have many wives and in a matter of fact he must be very horny then - so the matter is horny

But there is also one in South Africa http://peakery.com/The-Matterhorn/

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Haven't got a clue. However, why is it impossible to mention Fokkers with the little in front??!! (and I do it too)
It probably goes back to this classic TV moment



I remember watching it live at my parents house. My Mum had been a Stan Boardman fan until then. She was not amused
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A friend told me about this Oerlikon story four years ago.
A female soldier in the South African army was testing an Oerlikon anti aircraft/tank gun and the thing malfunctioned and went out of control autofiring, killing nine and injring fifteen other soldiers. Sounded horrific (something like the prototype in the board room in Robocop movie).
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