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You said that as if that is what Swiss people do when it rains, why do they?
Same as anyone, I guess. We close the windows on the side of the house facing the oncoming wind when it's raining - otherwise we get a wet floor / curtains / sofa or whatever is under that particular window.
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Same as anyone, I guess. We close the windows on the side of the house facing the oncoming wind when it's raining - otherwise we get a wet floor / curtains / sofa or whatever is under that particular window.
You live in an old house? Most windows also tilt inwards so no need to close.

From the comment previously, I'm amazed how some Swiss feel the cold (although they live in a very cold climate in winter) and keep the windows closed in March/April.. September/October with the heating on!
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I know how you feel. The humidity quite literally makes me sick. I had to call in work this morning as I woke up with a huge headache. At night it's too clammy to sleep and I have a Swiss husband who insists on closing the window when it rains (so I go downstairs)

Summer is my worst season here in CH. Love the other seasons though.
The solution is easy. I have a three-parts-window in my sleeping room and keep the shutters on one part closed and that window open.
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You live in an old house? Most windows also tilt inwards so no need to close.

From the comment previously, I'm amazed how some Swiss feel the cold (although they live in a very cold climate in winter) and keep the windows closed in March/April.. September/October with the heating on!
The central heating in most places is only started (usually) in late October or early November, depending on the weather, but sure not in September. It in most places gets switched off in late March or early April.

In late autumn, people feel the coming cold season, and in March-April simply continue the habit of wintertime
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You live in an old house? Most windows also tilt inwards so no need to close.
No, it's new-ish but that inward tilt of the windows doesn't stop a full-on assault of driving rain (as we found out). We tried to tip the outer blinds to see if that deflected the rain but it didn't make much of a difference.

Regarding the Swiss feeling the cold - I think their houses are so well insulated (compared to the draughty buildings in, say, the UK), they've grown a bit nesh and are not so hardy as those of us who have grown up being told to "Just put a jumper on and stop whinging..!"
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No, it's new-ish but that inward tilt of the windows doesn't stop a full-on assault of driving rain (as we found out). We tried to tip the outer blinds to see if that deflected the rain but it didn't make much of a difference.

Regarding the Swiss feeling the cold - I think their houses are so well insulated (compared to the draughty buildings in, say, the UK), they've grown a bit nesh and are not so hardy as those of us who have grown up being told to "Just put a jumper on and stop whinging..!"
I still remember when I back in October 72 in London realized that closed windows there were the same as one window halfway open back home
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No, it's new-ish but that inward tilt of the windows doesn't stop a full-on assault of driving rain (as we found out). We tried to tip the outer blinds to see if that deflected the rain but it didn't make much of a difference.

Regarding the Swiss feeling the cold - I think their houses are so well insulated (compared to the draughty buildings in, say, the UK), they've grown a bit nesh and are not so hardy as those of us who have grown up being told to "Just put a jumper on and stop whinging..!"
And it is also windier in the UK as it is an island...
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I'm really struggling to cope with the weather here at the moment in central Switzerland. First it's boiling hot & I'm sweating like a pig, then the clouds break & it's raining cats and dogs.

Repeat ad nauseum. All day.

I take a beer (or two) on a hot day off to cool down today (& to try & relax as I worked so much), I'm knocked out as it changes, all the smelly diesel fumes hit me. Next thing I know I just need to lay down (in a field in some hay) ..then I'm soaked in cold rain.

Mrs will pick me up soon, how do I explain?

Can't do anything or get anything done & will just go home & sleep instead of play with my kids as I missed them.

I don't like tropical heat, I didn't like Asia because of that so how do I explain my situation because I feel like going to a Doctor (but it's been like this for 2 months :-( but not quite as bad).. Btw, I am not a wimp (usually).

I've lived here for years but never was as bad as this.

....errrrmmm......PROZAC?
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the weather outside is nothing compared to Washington D.C...but, but one thing I struggle to get used to is the lack of strong air condition in offices. I used to freeze to death in those places in America and Japan, but I adjusted over a period years, so now here in Switzerland, I'm burning up daily at my office in short sleeves, where many of the euros are wearing t-shirts and long-sleeve shirts (NOT SWEAT)!!!
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the weather outside is nothing compared to Washington D.C...but, but one thing I struggle to get used to is the lack of strong air condition in offices. I used to freeze to death in those places in America and Japan, but I adjusted over a period years, so now here in Switzerland, I'm burning up daily at my office in short sleeves, where many of the euros are wearing t-shirts and long-sleeve shirts (NOT SWEAT)!!!
Do not forget that most offices (still) do NOT have any airconditioning. Schools here do not have airconditioning anyway. The place where I worked during my apprenticeship had neither. I then worked for 20 years in place with a lousy airconditioning which did not have any result. And was happy when, 20 years ago, I could move to an office without airconditioning, luckily facing north. Look into restaurants. Most do not have airconditioning. Some in fact OUGHT to have airconditioning, or open the windows. There is a good Indian restaurant near Bhf Wiedikon (Zürich) where I only go to when you can take your seat outside as the air inside is clearly too sticky !
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the weather outside is nothing compared to Washington D.C...but, but one thing I struggle to get used to is the lack of strong air condition in offices. I used to freeze to death in those places in America and Japan, but I adjusted over a period years, so now here in Switzerland, I'm burning up daily at my office in short sleeves, where many of the euros are wearing t-shirts and long-sleeve shirts (NOT SWEAT)!!!
I'm glad there isn't the same overzealous air conditioning here. What's the point of having the air conditioned to the point where you have to wear extra clothes indoors to keep warm? I recall from when we were holidaying in the US that I had to put on a jacket just to go into the shopping mall when it was only really 22-23C outside!

The use of power to bring the building temperatures down to 18 or 19C must be astronomical and totally unnecessary.
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I'm glad there isn't the same overzealous air conditioning here. What's the point of having the air conditioned to the point where you have to wear extra clothes indoors to keep warm? I recall from when we were holidaying in the US that I had to put on a jacket just to go into the shopping mall when it was only really 22-23C outside!

The use of power to bring the building temperatures down to 18 or 19C must be astronomical and totally unnecessary.
Surely a company would invest in one of these if they know you can work better, mine did.
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I'm glad there isn't the same overzealous air conditioning here. What's the point of having the air conditioned to the point where you have to wear extra clothes indoors to keep warm? I recall from when we were holidaying in the US that I had to put on a jacket just to go into the shopping mall when it was only really 22-23C outside!

The use of power to bring the building temperatures down to 18 or 19C must be astronomical and totally unnecessary.
We typically make the building, what we call, "room temperature", which is 22Celcius, or thereabout.

I think it is the temp, that the average American won't sweat with a suit on.

The end result is, many women end up having "" at their desk.

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One difference in D.C. and here is it is usually 5-10 degrees warmer and much more humid. So being in the shade does not really help to cool you down...
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I'm glad there isn't the same overzealous air conditioning here. What's the point of having the air conditioned to the point where you have to wear extra clothes indoors to keep warm? I recall from when we were holidaying in the US that I had to put on a jacket just to go into the shopping mall when it was only really 22-23C outside!

The use of power to bring the building temperatures down to 18 or 19C must be astronomical and totally unnecessary.
Strangely enough, the use of airconditioning is far more extreme in the Deep South than in the North of the USA. This at least was my expression on trips to the USA. It may not be a scientistically established fact, but I stay with my impression(s)
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We typically make the building, what we call, "room temperature", which is 22Celcius, or thereabout.

I think it is the temp, that the average American won't sweat with a suit on.

The end result is, many women end up having "" at their desk.

Seriously.


One difference in D.C. and here is it is usually 5-10 degrees warmer and much more humid. So being in the shade does not really help to cool you down...
" with a suit on" ? That was what people here did in the 1950ies (excl banking people of course, as I refer to normal people) ! But already was "out" in the mid and late 1960ies . Would the US Americans drop the suits and some of the airconditioning, it would not just reduce their energy consumption but also their demand for China-made textiles, and so adjust the USA-PRC trade balance
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" with a suit on" ? That was what people here did in the 1950ies (excl banking people of course, as I refer to normal people) ! But already was "out" in the mid and late 1960ies . Would the US Americans drop the suits and some of the airconditioning, it would not just reduce their energy consumption but also their demand for China-made textiles, and so adjust the USA-PRC trade balance
I don't think most workers in offices where suits anymore, but for top level bankers, lawyers, etc. But now it has become a tradition that this should be the "office temperature".

You are correct about the deep South, I've lived in both places...
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Happy to report in eastern Ontario ,today 1200hr 19 degree C humidity 46 % .I am in heaven
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Strangely enough, the use of airconditioning is far more extreme in the Deep South than in the North of the USA. This at least was my expression on trips to the USA. It may not be a scientistically established fact, but I stay with my impression(s)
What is so Strange about that Most of the time in the "Deep South" it is much hotter then in the north
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What is so Strange about that Most of the time in the "Deep South" it is much hotter then in the north
This is NOT the point. I referred to the INDOORS temperature. Where you inside airports like MSY/DFW/IAH etc have temperatures between 12 and 15 degrees centigrade and in airports like JFK/LGA/EWR/PHL/ORD temperatures between 17 and 24 degrees centigrade. THIS means that the difference between INside and OUTside in the Deep South is at least twice times as much as in the North. So that the Dixies sniff as living on the Matterhorn
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This is NOT the point. I referred to the INDOORS temperature. Where you inside airports like MSY/DFW/IAH etc have temperatures between 12 and 15 degrees centigrade and in airports like JFK/LGA/EWR/PHL/ORD temperatures between 17 and 24 degrees centigrade. THIS means that the difference between INside and OUTside in the Deep South is at least twice times as much as in the North. So that the Dixies sniff as living on the Matterhorn
Normal thermostat setting is 21 degree C or 71 Fahrenheit,but what you have to take in account is the humidity ,which is much greater in the north, The temperature is the same put with higher humidity in the north it feels hotter
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