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The thing is, it's not the absolute cost of living nor the system here that is the problem, it's the fact that you are used to a different system and to different prices. If you had grown up here then moving to another country would probably be just as frustrating.

The haircut for example, just the fact that you can afford a car suggests you probably can afford a haircut without driving to Germany. I find the price of hair salons here only slightly more expensive than London. Since i like to have my hair coloured I have only ever been to the hairdresser 2-3x per year, while my husband goes probably once a month for a basic trim and we probably end up spending similar amounts each overall. It just comes down to what you want to spend your disposable income on.
If I had grown up here, I'd have family here to help out. I'd have a wider network and more knowledge of how things work, etc. I don't find that surprising or right or wrong.
For me, personally, after nearly a decade here, I feel like I pretty well do know what to expect but it doesn't meant that my neighbours or I enjoyed coming home to find the road blocked, want to buy rotten fruit, have so much money that taken out 100sfr is a minimum.
My neighbour cuts her hair and her whole family's hair, and they have two cars. She buys everything she can in France and we just bemoaned the loss of our beloved local 2nd hand shop together. We also trade toys for our kids, and tell each other about deals we saw on Ricardo.
She is Swiss, was born and raised here, and exactly the same things make her day a bit more difficult as happen to me. Does that mean that we both don't understand the system or how to use our disposable income?
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Now what exactly is the CH part of this, apart from the fact that you paid your groceries with sfr and could only get 100 sfr at the ATM??
Just pick any part that 'speaks' to you. I wasn't addressing your morning, only mine. As I said it could all happen anywhere and has.
If I were posting about LA, I could complain that my morning commute to work took longer than 3 errands in Switzerland. Some people would agree, some wouldn't.
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Inform them by registered mail that you will be staying in a hotel and will deduct the amount from the rent if you don't get your apartment on 1 August, they will definitely find a solution or you will get a nice vacation in a hotel
I like that idea! I know apartments are hard to get here and in short supply, but surely that doesn't give landlords the right to screw people out of a week's rent!
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When we first moved here we rented a new and super-expensive apartment. Our neighbours above were a British family with 2 boys. One Sunday they experienced a very serious problem with their electrics (which had been incorrectly wired), all the electrical equipment in their flat was blown out and their TV actually caught fire. The Agent who had rented the apartments lived in the same village and they rang him in a bit of a panic asking what they should do. His response was to complain that they had rung him on a Sunday and wait until his office opened on Monday morning!
Clear is that the "agent" did not believe the story. Because he of course was wondering why it had worked before and then on a Sunday suddenly blown out . The point that the TV caught fire points a bit to a faulty TV-set anyway. And the people to be contacted in such a case are the Feuerwehr (fireworkers) and not an agency.

That this "agent" however did not tell them to advise the "Feuerwehr" however shows him to be a rather dull and lousy person indeed.

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When I was living in Germany, the cold water pipe exploded around 00:00. We had a guy fixing it at 01:00.

When we had a water problem here on a thursday evening, we called the plumber "emergency" number on our documents from the vermiter, only to hear on the other side of the line "GRÜÜÜÜÜÜEZI. We are closed after 17h30." The next day was a holiday. We had to live with father in law during that gorgeous long weekend...

Emergency numbers like that, only in Switzerland...

No no no, Switzerland is not that "unique", even if many CHers would love it to be that way Try emergency-numbers in Italy or Algeria or Egypt. So, why exactly should Swaziland, sorry I mean Switzerland, be better


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This is exactly why I can't stand this country...nothing seems to work properly and everything has to be so difficult!!

Well well, I cannot help against the feeling that you in deep "innermost" reality suffer from the feeling widespread among CHers that Switzerland ought to be better than the rest of the pack, and feel frustrated and insulted in a way when things are not better at times but inferior

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Re: Only in Switzerland... (anecdotes)

I can't register my car here because all modifications with TUV approvals from Germany are worthless here. They were good all over the EU though, only in Switzerland...not
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my neighbours or I enjoyed coming home to find the road blocked
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this can happen of course at any time, but there usually is extensive pre-information handed out by the village/town/city. I am fairly sure that also you had it in your mail

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want to buy rotten fruit,
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when buying fruit, you have to carefully examine the stuff and abstain from purchasing wrotten things as they not only are not nice but also unhealthy. It can be very useful to turn round fruit on the shelves to see the other side. If you purchase rotten stuff, it is fully your very own personal fault

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have so much money that taken out 100sfr is a minimum.
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this is a standard of many money-machines. If you want small change you have to go to a served counter

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tell each other about deals we saw on Ricardo.
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A simple fact about Switzerland and Swiss people can explain all what is on this thread, They are never wrong and They never do mistakes.....take it this way and live with it, nothing much can be done about it, if you try to complain, they're so happy to terminate any contracts and charge you the remaining amounts or you goto Porsuite
Didn't you know that it always those foreigners (plus les Alémaniques) who are always wrong

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Re: Only in Switzerland... (anecdotes)

we just discovered that one can borrow toys for a month for kids at "Ludothek 7" in Zurich... this is something quite new to me and very convenient. Kids get tired of toys soon after you buy them anyway, and when we'll have to move we can just return the borrowed toys. I'm not sure it would work in many other places, but it beats spending lots of money on toys, when they are happy playing with the Ludothek toys.
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I can't register my car here because all modifications with TUV approvals from Germany are worthless here. They were good all over the EU though, only in Switzerland...not
This is one of the reasons why I am so much in favour of the full implementation of the already existing EU-CH Bilaterals and some additional ones to be added. As the industrial standards are in the process to be adapted to the EU-standards. This in some special cases may be a rather minimal down-grading or up-grading, but not much of REAL changes. The process however IS essential also for the export industry, but of course highly important for the customers.

Bring you car to a good garage, who will fix the problems within a day. Most modifications you mention will not be a problem at all really, so that it will just be a minimal thing, but needs work of a car mechanic.
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Re: Only in Switzerland... (anecdotes)

Umm...I didn't say what the modifications were. I was already at a garage, they told me I have no chance to pass, then I was at the MFK prufstelle, THEY told me I have no chance to pass

But hey, if you know someone who could help with this, pls let me know.
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Re: Only in Switzerland... (anecdotes)

One time in Leysin I went to the post office to pay a few bills I had accumulated and one was a phone bill. They gave me back a stub from the bill and I dont remember but the me of the time would have dropped trash anywhere in front of anyone and so I guess I purposefully dropped the stub on the floor. Two days later, the phone stub was mailed back to me to my suprise and I knew at that point that all the stereotypes were truu!!
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Umm...I didn't say what the modifications were. I was already at a garage, they told me I have no chance to pass, then I was at the MFK prufstelle, THEY told me I have no chance to pass

But hey, if you know someone who could help with this, pls let me know.

You should have got the full details from the MFK. Go with your car to the
Generalvertretung them the details you got from the MFK. "No chance to pass" refers to the car as it is right now
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You probably should have set the box on fire. Smoke of all varieties here seems to be worshipped. Consider:
1) The number of makeshift and permanent fire pits by the side of lakes here
2) The number of homes which burn wood for heating - even in the summer
3) The old ashtray smell wafting around any train station
4) The preponderance of smoked fish sold in the supermarkets here

Whilst disposing of postal packaging at a post office refuse point may strike an Ausländer's brain as being wholly logical I suspect here they only use the bins for disposing of the queue or line numbers dispensed by the machines in the post office to keep the baying herd in order.
Don't forget that you have to take a number. Even if you are the only customer waiting and there is no one else in the store that could even be considered to be a potential waiter and there are 2 free window tellers. You still have to take a number. Know this from personal experience. After which the tellers will mock you and comment to each other about how stupid Etrangers are. Of course, the laughter did stop when I agreed, with a slightly ironic smile that, "Yes, we Americans are sometime a bit funny," in french. Suddenly, no more smiles and no more rude comments from the staff.

Still don't get how disposing of a box at the location at which you receive said box is illegal. Especially if said box fits in disposal receptacle.
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this can happen of course at any time, but there usually is extensive pre-information handed out by the village/town/city. I am fairly sure that also you had it in your mail

Only in CH would someone assume that everyone in my area, and me, was surprised by an unexpected road closure simply due to our own negligence.
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when buying fruit, you have to carefully examine the stuff and abstain from purchasing wrotten things as they not only are not nice but also unhealthy. It can be very useful to turn round fruit on the shelves to see the other side. If you purchase rotten stuff, it is fully your very own personal fault

Only in CH would someone actually think I need help and guidelines in order to not eat or choose spoiled food, and totally miss the point that the store shouldn't be selling it.


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this is a standard of many money-machines. If you want small change you have to go to a served counter

Only in CH would someone assume that going to a served counter instead of a money machine simply because you want less than 100sfr is totally normal and not at all inconvienent for us poor folk. We obviously have more time to go to the bank.


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yes, I think you proved your point.

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Still don't get how disposing of a box at the location at which you receive said box is illegal. Especially if said box fits in disposal receptacle.
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You should have got the full details from the MFK. Go with your car to the
Generalvertretung them the details you got from the MFK. "No chance to pass" refers to the car as it is right now
Well I didn't actually try to take the MFK, I just told them the mods and the guy pretty much laughed in my face
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yes, I think you proved your point.
> the problem with such road closures usually is HOW things are explained in those "official" brochures. THAT the info was distributed is 98% sure.

> The stores of course should take spoilt stuff out of the shelves. Good outlet-managers and their staff regularily check ALL shelves for rotten stuff. And phase it OUT. Amazingly enough, many personnel and many customers simply do not sufficiently realize that the whole stuff has been on the road and in storage for many days and that quite many of the trucks are not refrigerated, but have the merchandise at temperatures of between 20 and 45 degrees centigrade I was astonished to see, in a shop where fruit and vegetables usually are in excellent order, a shelf with "blackened" bananas for many many days.

> It simply depends on the money-machines you use. Those of Migros-Bank, Post-Finance and UBS give out notes of CHF 20.-- also. But, to repeat it, quite many such money-machines are either
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- only loaded with CHF 100 notes
- lousy products
Look at exchange-machines at airports around the globe. Most are rubbish. The best one I ever saw was, in September 1994, the one in the arrival hall of Tel Aviv Airport. Absolutely splendid in every way.
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Well I didn't actually try to take the MFK, I just told them the mods and the guy pretty much laughed in my face
Well, I presume that this guy simply is an arrogant and ignorant idiot. He of course ought to know that the criteria of TüV-agencies and MFKs in Switzerland are not sooooo very different. Suggest, you give order to the garage to check up with the MFK in detail, what alterations are required. But again, I might recommend a "Generalvertretung" of a garage. I am fairly sure that the alterations are relatively minor, and not massive. They then can give you an estimate of the costs.
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Re: Only in Switzerland... (anecdotes)

Here's an "only in Switzerland" item ...well, ok, could include Germany too...

http://www.weltbild.ch/3/16752278-1/...schneider.html



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LOL. I just inhaled my swiss plonk chortling to this. I spent too much of my life with the Masshole population to imagine some guy from southie writing anything but, "Hey! Guy! WTF! Trim your f-ing garden before I kick your ass! Whatevah, OK?"

I should stop drinking so much wine...

Maybe we should write a book about East Coast vs. Swiss behavior.

Here's one. you're at the grocery store. You see the can of beans you want, but someone is standing in front of them and blocking your access with their cart while they look for what they want. They are oblivious to the fact that you WANT those beans and are in a hurry (because after all, on the East Coast, we're always in a hurry). So, you say, "excuse me" and you just stretch your arm and reach across or behind the other person to get your beans and be on your way. In and out. Real quick. No harm done.

If you did that in Switzerland you'd be thrown to the ground and given 40 lashes. You must wait, silently and politely, until the other person has found what they are looking for and moved out of the way.
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After coming back from a trip in London, I realised i forgot the key to my flat. Thankfully my rental agency had a spare. I presented myself at the office, but at arount 12.30pm. Knowing that it would literally take two minutes to get the key off them, I asked if I could come up and get it. I was repeatedly told that it was "lunchtime", and that I should come back at 1pm. The countless "please ma'am" did not get me anywhere. I therefore drown my sorrows in a nearby bar !!!
I feel your pain. I still struggle with hours of operation at local businesses. Most people work the same hours each day -- 0900 to 1800 with an hour for lunch. But most businesses close for lunch between 1200 and 1300, and close for the day at 1830. That leaves very little time during the week to actually get anything done.

Businesses would make more money if they had different or longer hours. It's just mind boggling that in a capitalist country like Switzerland that there would be so little interest in maximizing profit.
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