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Old 03.09.2007, 16:41
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Pick-pockets

(I thought I’d posted this earlier this morning but I think it was lost when my PC crashed).

Anyhoo, here it is again…

A heads up for anyone venturing into the Seefeld area of Zurich. There are seemingly helpless “tourists” in distress looking for change of a 2 Franc piece so they can call the “Krankenhaus”. I was almost caught out by them, probably because I was juggling baby/shopping/pram and my guard was down. In an effort to help them I had my purse out ready to give them the change they needed (I know, I know gullible fool I am…) when I noticed the “wife” had suddenly moved to the side where my open handbag was and the husband was errr “helping” me with my purse while half obscuring it with a sheet of paper he was carrying.

The semi-streetwise bit of my brain kicked in and I snapped my purse shut muttering something about only having Euros (first thing that came into my head) and I marched off. Nothing was taken. I just felt a bit stupid for almost falling for it.

This happened to me again a couple of days later with a different pair but this time I didn’t even let them get past the “have you got change stage”. They could have been genuine but unfortunately, as the saying goes, once bitten twice shy.

Just a warning…
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Old 03.09.2007, 21:55
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Re: Pick-pockets

it happened to my gf´s mother and a colleague of her to be
plagued by pick-pockets when/while getting onto the train.
both times happened in zug area and ended up having lost
the purse with dosh and of course all kind of cards n id´s-> streeeeeeeess! it has to be said that they kept the handbags close but not close enough...just didnt realize people getting at it.
everyone: be just careful and aware. thats what i try to be but these bast*ards are really sneaky n tricky as we read here...
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Old 04.09.2007, 12:38
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Re: Pick-pockets

I've the instincts of a cat but yesterday a good friend was getting of the tram and thumped me on the chest to say "Hello". I didn't see him coming and it still took a few seconds to workout what happened. So much for all those years in the Dojo Had my wallet pinched twice in Seefeld and not once in all the middle eastern countries I've worked in. Or Liverpool . So thanks for the heads-up and remember: if someone's distracting you, watch your back...
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Re: Pick-pockets

Got my wallet stolen yesterday in the tram in Geneva. Didn't even notice that it was gone until I was in the train and the conductor wanted to see my 'abonnement generale'. Sadly I had just withdrawn 300 CHF. The most annoying thing is the time it will take to replace all my credit cards, drivers license, etc.
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Old 01.05.2009, 15:13
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Got my wallet stolen yesterday in the tram in Geneva. Didn't even notice that it was gone until I was in the train and the conductor wanted to see my 'abonnement generale'. Sadly I had just withdrawn 300 CHF. The most annoying thing is the time it will take to replace all my credit cards, drivers license, etc.
What a bloody pain!
I guess Switzerland, like any other country, no matter how safe its portrayed to be, will have its fair share of pickpockets and we should always be constantly on the alert no matter where we are.

Thanks for sharing Sandgrounder too. Glad everything's intact!
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Re: Pick-pockets

I take responsibility for what happened. I as distractedly texting on my phone and had forgotten to zip may bag in a crowded tram. Trés stupide. I have been walking around Switzerland under the delusion that there's no crime here. I am way more cautious whenever I'm in another country, somehow just let my guard down here. Lesson learned the hard way.
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What a bloody pain!
I guess Switzerland, like any other country, no matter how safe its portrayed to be, will have its fair share of pickpockets and we should always be constantly on the alert no matter where we are.

Thanks for sharing Sandgrounder too. Glad everything's intact!
"Safe" is relative, a gentlemen tried to smash window in my car, he could only crack it (Double glass) before I came.

To make long story short, I made a mugshot of this guy and had to let him go, then police took this pic and called me 2 days later, they captured him. Where able to link bunch of other car breakins to his ass that night.

Whopiee.

Btw Police told me to not leave ANYTHING in the car anymore, they say ever since Schengen opened up, the number of car breakins in ZH became as bad as in Milano.
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I take responsibility for what happened.
It is not your fault, people should be able to use public transport without having to be on their guard all the time.
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Btw Police told me to not leave ANYTHING in the car anymore, they say ever since Schengen opened up, the number of car breakins in ZH became as bad as in Milano.
Did they really say this to you? That is very interesting. One of the grounds on which politicans "sold" the Schengen deal was that it would increase public safety by allowing police to target foreign suspects more effectively.
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Did they really say this to you? That is very interesting. One of the grounds on which politicans "sold" the Schengen deal was that it would increase public safety by allowing police to target foreign suspects more effectively.
Well actually word by word they said it was since "Several Month". The rest was the same. They said they have their hands full night after night with broken windows in cars. As bad as never before.

Maybe Schengen brings more security against serious crime offenders but for little ones, I doubt.

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, stash your stuff in trunk and remove your Navigation System!

Even if your car is parked on a busy street near Bahnhofstrasse!
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Old 01.05.2009, 16:07
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Re: Pick-pockets

Well I must say in the past week I've seen more politzei, securitas...and I even saw 'customs security' at Zurich HB this week, and two police cars chased down the bus that I almost caught with my children (except that it didn't stop where it was supposed to) - when we go to the next stop the police were searching/interviewing a couple of guys who'd they'd pulled off...

Maybe it's the warmer weather....
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Re: Pick-pockets

I would like to appeal especially to those people coming from outside of the EU zone or those who had lived for a while outside and forgot the rules, the "grass is not greener" on the other side and although the crime seems to be less obvious a detrimental factor on our lives but it is still there. You might not expect much of violent crime (desperado) when culprits would hold you at the gun point but the pickpocketing and organized scams (intelligent crime) are very common here. Here is some read for those less aware:

http://www.howtoguides365.com/how-to...t-pickpockets/

http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/lib/mpdc/inf...prevention.pdf

http://www.selfprotectiontips.com/index.php/35
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Old 01.05.2009, 16:25
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"Safe" is relative, a gentlemen tried to smash window in my car, he could only crack it (Double glass) before I came.

To make long story short, I made a mugshot of this guy and had to let him go, then police took this pic and called me 2 days later, they captured him. Where able to link bunch of other car breakins to his ass that night.

Whopiee.

Btw Police told me to not leave ANYTHING in the car anymore, they say ever since Schengen opened up, the number of car breakins in ZH became as bad as in Milano.
Yes definitely safer than alot of other countries. This is the only country I've lived in where my neighbour leaves the tomtom in his car which is parked on the streets.
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I take responsibility for what happened. I as distractedly texting on my phone and had forgotten to zip may bag in a crowded tram. Trés stupide. I have been walking around Switzerland under the delusion that there's no crime here. I am way more cautious whenever I'm in another country, somehow just let my guard down here. Lesson learned the hard way.
There would be no crime if there were no Auslanders there.
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There would be no crime if there were no Auslanders there.
Agree, but without generalizing of course!... there would be no crime if there were no "bad" Auslanders.
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There would be no crime if there were no Auslanders there.
haha are you not one of those Auslanders???

just trying for some sort of reaction from people (from what I have read of stuff he writes on here) it seems...
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Re: Pick-pockets

Good that you had your wits about you OP. I made a post in another pick pocket thread earlier about a scam I came across in Bern at the bear pit. A male and female couple with a baby stroller. The female would bump the stroller into people while the man circled behind. Fortunatly everyone at the stop seemed to see what was going on.
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Re: Pick-pockets

thanks 4 post sandgrounder.

i HATE it when people take advantage of "disadvantaged" (ie distracted with baby/phone/kindness)
makes us all want to be uptight meanies! not a nice life.

the other day i asked two well dressed indian looking, itallian speaking women, who were struggling with putting a franc into the shopping trolley, to PLEASE not leave their handbags hanging over the back of the baby buggy - i HATE encouraging opportunists.

they spoke no german - so i used itallian so broken it could have been spanish, but they understood
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Why are some "Thanks" tags missing from some of the above postings ? Is this a form of censorship
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Why are some "Thanks" tags missing from some of the above postings ? Is this a form of censorship
Perhaps, few months old posts are classified as too outdated to express your opinion

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