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Old 01.07.2011, 00:37
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So, Treverus, shall I give myself up to the police or do you want to do it and get your reward. I'll remember to kick myself out of the country after I've paid my fine.

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Honestly, where do I say anything remotely like that? I am not for more laws, controls, SBB, police or anything. All I say is that you are responsible for your own actions. If you jump on the tram without stamping - totally ok with me. Works 20 times, you'll get controlled the 21st... I just don't understand why anyone thinks it's wrong to get a fine for it or why it is so nice from the controller to let a woman go - because she had tears in her eyes. Yes, I think controls should not discriminate by gender, age, skin color or anything else - everyone should get the same treatment. And I still think it is wrong if the controller decides on her own who to fine and who not. I find it absurd that I am told off for being inhumane by doing so.

But apparently is it cooler on EF to demand free public transport or to whine when you get the fine... it is dead simple: It doesn't matter if you used to have a GA or not or if it is annoying to stamp the damn thing - do what you want and do it at your own risk. But don't complain about the consequences.
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Old 01.07.2011, 00:39
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Today in Seebach 19:05 I saw a man - obviously Swiss - putting bottles into the recycling when it was clearly stated that you're only allowed to use it upto 7pm! Lawbreaking scum!

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Old 01.07.2011, 00:41
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Honestly, where do I say anything remotely like that? I am not for more laws, controls, SBB, police or anything. All I say is that you are responsible for your own actions. If you jump on the tram without stamping - totally ok with me. Works 20 times, you'll get controlled the 21st... I just don't understand why anyone thinks it's wrong to get a fine for it or why it is so nice from the controller to let a woman go - because she had tears in her eyes. Yes, I think controls should not discriminate by gender, age, skin color or anything else - everyone should get the same treatment. And I still think it is wrong if the controller decides on her own who to fine and who not. I find it absurd that I am told off for being inhumane by doing so.

But apparently is it cooler on EF to demand free public transport or to whine when you get the fine... it is dead simple: It doesn't matter if you used to have a GA or not or if it is annoying to stamp the damn thing - do what you want and do it at your own risk. But don't complain about the consequences.
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Old 01.07.2011, 04:19
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Re: I got so touched today by a great human reaction

Let's face it, ticket controllers are human like the rest of us, impressionable, but for those of us who aren't blond or teary with kids, we have to resort to other means to avoid being penalized.

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Old 01.07.2011, 07:02
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I believe the horse was already dead... that's kind of the point, isn't it?
Yes but is it an acting horse, people in make-up, or a real dead horse. And if the latter did the kill it on purpose just for the photo?






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Old 01.07.2011, 09:54
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Yes but is it an acting horse, people in make-up, or a real dead horse. And if the latter did the kill it on purpose just for the photo?
As I understand it, it was acting people, in make-up, that were killed for the photo.

So take three "I got it right today" silver stars from the sticker bucket.
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Reminds me of the good old days, when I lived in Perth and get free public transport...

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.....But apparently is it cooler on EF to demand free public transport ......
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My father went on trip to Switzerland some 5 years ago. He speaks poor German and poor English (although in a weird way he has a reasonable understanding of spoken German) and he got confused with tickets. I suspect he was not confused, but simply did not believe train tickets could be that expensive (he was travelling by car during the rest of the trip) and bought the Halbtax one. In addition he was sitting in the first class; we do not have classes in our trains here, so he did not bother to pay attention, seats looked nicer there and he obviously went to that area.

So the conductor came to check the tickets, told him his ticket is not valid and proceeded to tell him the service charge plus the correct charge for the first class travel. My father told me that he then tried to explain the guy that it is first time in Switzerland, he does enjoy the country, but is totally confused with the ticketing system.

And then the conductor set next to him and patiently and slowly explained for 10 minutes what is Halbtax, what types of discounts are available and what are the best travel passes for tourists. He was not charged for the ticket, but told to buy a correct one next time and wished a nice stay in Switzerland. He was also left to sit in the first class for the rest of his journey; it was long range train and he had to get out in the next station anyway.

This was one of the best experiences he had in Switzerland and later he was telling everyone how hospitable and welcoming SBB conductors are. When visiting Switzerland a few times later, he always insisted on taking a train (with correct passes this time) and became a devoted fan of Swiss railways, although he prefers car travel in other countries.
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Old 01.07.2011, 10:31
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Re: I got so touched today by a great human reaction

Coming home from our honeymoon. Me and hubby couldnt buy bus tickets on board, we had only a 100 bill. We just sat there with our heads down but giggling. At our stop, the driver waved goodbye and wished us a nice day. Still pretty embarassing.

Also took me some time to figure out that there´s a first class area on trains. If i EVER get fined, i would have alot of explaining to do...to my 6 yr old.
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Old 01.07.2011, 11:30
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I believe the horse was already dead... that's kind of the point, isn't it?
Yes - I did get the joke - just was worried for Mud about the backlash from animal lovers on here.

And we don't know the circumstances - the horse probably didn't have a ticket to the racecourse....
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Old 01.07.2011, 11:36
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Yes - I did get the joke - just was worried for Mud about the backlash from animal lovers on here....
I wouldnt worry about Mud, in fact he told me once he keeps a horse hanging in his shed.

or did he tell me he's hung like a horse and I should come to his shed.

I get soooooooooooooo confused sometimes.
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Old 01.07.2011, 11:50
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Re: I got so touched today by a great human reaction

A few months back, as I remember, inspectors from the BLS in civilian clothes came across a guy who had 'forgotten' to click his ticket. He tried to get off the train after some exchanges with them, and the inspectors pepper-sprayed him and were alledgedly violent.

There are questions as to what actually happened, but eyewitnesses reported the older passenger was drunk and there were four against one. A bit heavy handed?

http://www.derbund.ch/bern/Pfeffersp...story/31123041
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Old 01.07.2011, 12:12
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There are questions as to what actually happened
Don't worry. He was judged by the EF jury.
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Why was that a great reaction? Even without a job are you able to afford your public transport ticket here... the social security is great.

They guys have the job to make sure that a few people aren't stealing from the community. This lady apparently did and I think she should be fined. I find the controllers a bit too harsh on many things - people who have abos, can proof their ID and simply forgot them on them... or people who bought their mobile phone ticket a second after the train left the station. But somebody who simply doesn't have one should be fined, no matter if they have tears in their eyes or not.

In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
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Geezus why so angry dude ?


1. because he's a dude and he thinks he wouldn't get the same treatment!
2. or because he was on that bus as well, he had his ticket and he didn't get a chocolate from the ticket inspector?
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Old 01.07.2011, 13:45
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2. or because he was on that bus as well, he had his ticket and he didn't get a chocolate from the ticket inspector?
Actually, now you point that out, he has a point. I'd be mad too.

Maybe it was an Ex-Lax. That'd punish the mother much more than an 80 chuff fine.
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Old 01.07.2011, 14:34
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Old 02.07.2011, 13:15
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Why was that a great reaction? Even without a job are you able to afford your public transport ticket here... the social security is great.

They guys have the job to make sure that a few people aren't stealing from the community. This lady apparently did and I think she should be fined. I find the controllers a bit too harsh on many things - people who have abos, can proof their ID and simply forgot them on them... or people who bought their mobile phone ticket a second after the train left the station. But somebody who simply doesn't have one should be fined, no matter if they have tears in their eyes or not.

In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
You are right in theory, but wrong in practice. The inspectors anyway possibly not so much pitied the women but the little girl. And a nice gesture is always nice. The circumstances made it obvious anyway that the woman was not intending to betray public transport but simply had messed up her ticket-purchasing.
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Actually not. I have a long list of 40 CHF tickets for driving one to three kms too fast. Yes, they piss me off. Yes, I think the law is rubbish by being monitored far too strict.

But: I never whine about paying those tickets. I was fully aware that Swiss are anal about speed limits and willfully decided to drive with common sense and not be a rolling road block. If this means to get a ticket from time to time it was then my own decision and I pay for it.

I have taken the tram without ticket before. I saw it approaching and sprinted on it as it was late and buying a ticket would have translated into waiting for 15 mins... Yes, I was fully aware that I should have bought the ticket before and would have never complained if I got a fine. That's life.
...true...but we are men! - we don't whine and cry except on the EF...

Maybe the woman and her child had a very rough day, ...maybe the controller saw that and gave her a warning, I don't believe that people are crying to "get away"...

I myself "got away", me, my wife and my son were in a hurry to catch a S-bahn, I bought the tickets for all of us but forgot one in the machine, of course a controller came, I didn't "whine", I just said that I forgot it in the machine, and he believed me and charged me with a regular ticket...

Yes there are rules & regulations, but it's not a "real crime" to forget something...
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Agreed, and I am touched by the gesture of the ticket inspectors- who probably wanted to avoid upset for the little girl.
Unfortunately, there are people who never buy a ticket- and all the rest of us suffer for this by 'paying extra for them' (as in shop-lifting) - but also when we, as we all do, genuinely forget once in a blue moon.
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Today in Seebach 19:05 I saw a man - obviously Swiss - putting bottles into the recycling when it was clearly stated that you're only allowed to use it upto 7pm! Lawbreaking scum!

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I know the place and also at times used it at "off hours". Nobody cares. So what !?
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