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I got so touched today by a great human reaction

I were earlier in the bus when the ticket inspectors came on the bus, there were a woman behind me with her little daughter, she had abo for the daughter but no ticket for herself, the inspector took her ID and went to the other inspector to bring this machine to issue a bill, the woman had few tears in her eyes, the inspector came back and gave her back her ID and said "I can be human sometimes" and the other inspector got a chocolate from his pocket and gave it to the girl, seriously that was the most awesome reaction i ever seen in CH since i arrived here 6 years ago that i really wanted to thank the inspectors for giving up on the bureaucracy and being human for once

All respect for these 2 inspectors who really went beyond their duty and been so human, they made everyone's day on the bus i guess
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Old 30.06.2011, 13:25
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Why was that a great reaction? Even without a job are you able to afford your public transport ticket here... the social security is great.

They guys have the job to make sure that a few people aren't stealing from the community. This lady apparently did and I think she should be fined. I find the controllers a bit too harsh on many things - people who have abos, can proof their ID and simply forgot them on them... or people who bought their mobile phone ticket a second after the train left the station. But somebody who simply doesn't have one should be fined, no matter if they have tears in their eyes or not.

In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
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Old 30.06.2011, 13:28
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In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
Grown men cry too, you know...



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Old 30.06.2011, 13:38
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Grown men cry too, you know...



Is that from yesterday? Oh it can't be, he's holding the trophy
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Old 30.06.2011, 13:57
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First: The inspector was actually a woman not a guy

Second: I don't care at all about 80 CHF less in a rich govt income as much as i really care much more for smile on a human beings face.
Another 80CHF to be paid by the good citizens of Geneva then...

though from the way you told it, it did seem like she'd genuinely forgotten her abo, or had run for the bus without time to get a ticket, á la Treverus excuse.
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Another 80CHF to be paid by the good citizens of Geneva then...
It's not a zero-sum game and you know it.

I'm as skeptical as they come, but I'd much rather have faith in human beings not all cynically profiting off the system than demand that government institutions rigidly line their pockets no matter what. I'll gladly pour oil on that slippery slope. So I see no reason to celebrate whenever someone gets a fine and was happy to read this story.

(A separate point, though, is that something tells me this woman wouldn't have gotten the benefit of the doubt if she wasn't a mother with her child right there. Mistakes are only genuine and uncynical if you've been breeding, you see.)
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First: The inspector was actually a woman not a guy

Second: I don't care at all about 80 CHF less in a rich govt income as much as i really care much more for smile on a human beings face.


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Why was that a great reaction? Even without a job are you able to afford your public transport ticket here... the social security is great.

They guys have the job to make sure that a few people aren't stealing from the community. This lady apparently did and I think she should be fined. I find the controllers a bit too harsh on many things - people who have abos, can proof their ID and simply forgot them on them... or people who bought their mobile phone ticket a second after the train left the station. But somebody who simply doesn't have one should be fined, no matter if they have tears in their eyes or not.

In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
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The fact of the matter is that the woman broke the law; she had no ticket.
I would sympathize with her had she lost it or bought the wrong one...but getting on the bus & not buying the ticket is a way of cheating the system & cheating those who actually pay. It is not fair.
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The fact of the matter is that the woman broke the law; she had no ticket.
I would sympathize with her had she lost it or bought the wrong one...but getting on the bus & not buying the ticket is a way of cheating the system & cheating those who actually pay. It is not fair.
So you've never made a mistake in your life then?

Congrats. You're perfect, I wish I was like you.
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So you've never made a mistake in your life then?

Congrats. You're perfect, I wish I was like you.
I've made countless mistakes in the past but I noticed that the ones I paid for, I never repeated...
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The fact of the matter is that the woman broke the law; she had no ticket.
I would sympathize with her had she lost it or bought the wrong one...but getting on the bus & not buying the ticket is a way of cheating the system & cheating those who actually pay. It is not fair.
So many things in todays world are not fair, there's bankers who are stealing us everyday around the globe and it's not fair, there's armies going to wars killing people and it's not fair, there's corrupt politicians telling us what to do and what not to do and it's not fair, a true smile on a human being's face is much more fair than all of the above and if it bothers any of you i would be happily going to pay the 80 chf she had to pay and i would feel so honored doing
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... i would be happily going to pay the 80 chf she had to pay and i would feel so honored doing
You're still missing the point...
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In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
First: The inspector was actually a woman not a guy

Second: I don't care at all about 80 CHF less in a rich govt income as much as i really care much more for smile on a human beings face.
You see - and Trev isn't even Swiss. Just imagine how pissed a Swiss person would have been about the system's failure if they'd witnessed it.
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Why was that a great reaction? Even without a job are you able to afford your public transport ticket here... the social security is great.

They guys have the job to make sure that a few people aren't stealing from the community. This lady apparently did and I think she should be fined. I find the controllers a bit too harsh on many things - people who have abos, can proof their ID and simply forgot them on them... or people who bought their mobile phone ticket a second after the train left the station. But somebody who simply doesn't have one should be fined, no matter if they have tears in their eyes or not.

In my opinion was this not great but wrong behaviour. Do you think he would have done the same to a guy? If not, it was only chauvinistic, but not "human".
Geezus why so angry dude ?
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Geezus why so angry dude ?
He was on the same bus, didn't have a ticket and was fined for it
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Geezus why so angry dude ?
I am not angry. I just don't think this is super behaviour. There are plenty of really questionable rules in Switzerland and every time I see a cop/any civil servant turn a blind eye when he agrees that the bureaucracy is rubbish - I applaud.

I am not angry about people not buying tickets either - they take the risk getting caught and steal from the community. What I do not get is people being happy about them not getting what they deserve. You take a risk to get an unfair advantage and well, you weren't lucky. Same as speeding or pretty much any other offense.
Crying about getting caught is nothing short of pathetic. And so is a controller who does turn a blind eye to people without tickets. He does not get paid to only fine people he doesn't like.
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You never know what situation this person is in and why they didn't buy a ticket, but if you were there, you would have understood very well that this was a perfect human to human reaction.

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I am not angry. I just don't think this is super behaviour. There are plenty of really questionable rules in Switzerland and every time I see a cop/any civil servant turn a blind eye when he agrees that the bureaucracy is rubbish - I applaud.

I am not angry about people not buying tickets either - they take the risk getting caught and steal from the community. What I do not get is people being happy about them not getting what they deserve. You take a risk to get an unfair advantage and well, you weren't lucky. Same as speeding or pretty much any other offense.
Crying about getting caught is nothing short of pathetic. And so is a controller who does turn a blind eye to people without tickets. He does not get paid to only fine people he doesn't like.
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You never know what situation this person is in and why they didn't buy a ticket
's what i was thinking, and often do.

80chf is 1-4 pairs of shoes for the kid, or the weeks food bill.. all because you didnt have change in your pocket or simply forgot due to your mind being so full of other stuff.
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You never know what situation this person is in and why they didn't buy a ticket,
This is exactly my point, also the woman had an abo for the kid, so was not THAT bad...I would have felt sorry also...
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I am not angry about people not buying tickets either - they take the risk getting caught and steal from the community. What I do not get is people being happy about them not getting what they deserve. You take a risk to get an unfair advantage and well, you weren't lucky. Same as speeding or pretty much any other offense.
Crying about getting caught is nothing short of pathetic. And so is a controller who does turn a blind eye to people without tickets. He does not get paid to only fine people he doesn't like.
You, know, Trev, I kinda agree with you... but... people do make mistakes. I've jumped on a tram without my tram pass, having left it at home and only realised once I've got home.

People do make mistakes, and I can understand a mother with a child being tired - aka emotional - during the morning commute and forgetting to buy the ticket.

We don't actually know that the person knowingly tried to ticket dodge.
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