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Another update: we spoke to one of our lovely neighbors who says that this guy has a history of being mean, angry and awful in general. And get this: his wife is a lawyer. Great. Apparently she (his wife) has had to clean up after him and his rants and raves. Again, my sympathies to Mrs. Angry.
My neighbor's advice was to ignore him as much as possible, but if he ever does anything physical or threatening near our daughter again, to go to the authorities. She said that he's always been angry and caused trouble, but his behaving in such a way in front of a child is new and may mean that his anger is worsening. Very upsetting to us. We love Switzerland and to have this bad experience here is sad.
...in that case it might be worth a try having a word with his wife when you know he's not around. Escalation is one of the major problems of our world and if this escalates it's not going to do much for your world. You might find the wife quite helpful and sympathetic, especially if you can reach her on a woman to women level. Maybe the lady who told you the above might be willing to get you together for a tea for three.
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Old 03.07.2011, 21:59
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IKEA has a solution for everything...
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Sorry Trev - do you have a version with English instructions?

@ the OP - this neighbour said "next times"... why wait?

You've had two clear instances where the reaction has been disproportionate. Act now, file the report.
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Buy your daughter a drum kit, encourage her to listen to Slipknot and trade in your canines for Dobermans, this dude clearly has issues.
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Excellent distinction, but your love for specificity aside, I think you got my gist. I love our apartment and would hate to give him power by leaving. Of course, if that's what it takes to keep my daughter safe, then we will do that. But I truly hope it doesn't come down to that.
PS- I left Manhattan to move to California with my husband in 2002. He dragged me kicking and screaming.
And you complaining ?

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Excellent distinction, but your love for specificity aside, I think you got my gist. I love our apartment and would hate to give him power by leaving. Of course, if that's what it takes to keep my daughter safe, then we will do that. But I truly hope it doesn't come down to that.
PS- I left Manhattan to move to California with my husband in 2002. He dragged me kicking and screaming.
You should have reported him
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you are living in Switzerland so you actually left NYC...
I didnt mean that you should leave CH, but maybe find a new apartment...

Which would be surrendering in front of a grumpy old git ! You cannot flee from any challenge all the time.
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd tell off someone in the US carrying a gun.
Yeah, but in the gun toting states of the US, they'd never shoot at a dog unless it was rabid. Seriously. What douchebag shoots at a dog for being in the bushes?

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I actually now also feel sorry for the guy's wife. I hope she is not victim to his anger and he has not scared her like he has our little girl.
Domestic violence aside, nothing beats angry jackass like silence. Why, I employed it just yesterday with some busybody jackass who was all up in arms about my stopping my car for a few moments to pick up my in-laws and I guess I wasn't in one of the hotels marked out spaces, but a metre off. I looked at him, rolled my eyes, said sorry and ignored the rest of what he had to say. He carried on as though I should shoot myself for the infraction and that sorry wasn't enough at which point I switched to English and finally said, "Honey, I'm from America and, if you think a parking violation is worth the death penalty, well, we've got work for you back home!", got in the car and drove off. I never thought any country would make the Krauts like my mother seem laid back but,...the Swiss have surprised me.

Seriously, all bark and no bite but still a major chapping on the ass.

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Re: Angry Swiss dude

Ring the bell ones a week and then he will get used to it
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And you complaining ?

I wasn't literally kicking and screaming. It's an expression, used to indicate that I didn't want to go. Get it?

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You should have reported him

My husband? Yes- I should have but, alas, I love him.

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Yeah, but in the gun toting states of the US, they'd never shoot at a dog unless it was rabid. Seriously. What douchebag shoots at a dog for being in the bushes?
Sorry to anyone who I many tick off by saying this, but there are parts of the US, mostly below that good ole Mason Dixon line, where NOT carrying a gun is a mark of defiance of your civil duty as a US citizen. So shooting a dog in the bushes is not unusual and very much like yelling at a little 6 year old girl. it's all about exerting power over things that you are guaranteed to acquire power from by being a bully.

Of course there are exceptions /parts of the implied section of the states where everyone gets along fine without firearms. That being said, I would like to mention that NYC is one of the safest cities in the world (tru dat- look it up!). What can I say? I am a hard core Yankee.

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Domestic violence aside, nothing beats angry jackass like silence. Why, I employed it just yesterday with some busybody jackass who was all up in arms about my stopping my car for a few moments to pick up my in-laws and I guess I wasn't in one of the hotels marked out spaces, but a metre off. I looked at him, rolled my eyes, said sorry and ignored the rest of what he had to say. He carried on as though I should shoot myself for the infraction and that sorry wasn't enough at which point I switched to English and finally said, "Honey, I'm from America and, if you think a parking violation is worth the death penalty, well, we've got work for you back home!", got in the car and drove off. I never thought any country would make the Krauts like my mother seem laid back but,...the Swiss have surprised me.

Seriously, all bark and no bite but still a major chapping on the ass.
I am all about the silent treatment. I use it often. Never let 'em see you sweat- right?

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Ring the bell ones a week and then he will get used to it
That might cause some sort of Pavlovian psychotic breakdown. It's funny, but makes me scared. Perhaps I should have a straight jacket delivered to him, and then he can yell at the delivery guy who rings his bell to tell him he has a package...

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Two birds with one stone - get interflora (or someone like them) to deliver flowers to him. Thus annoying and soothing in equal measure.
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Sorry to anyone who I many tick off by saying this, but there are parts of the US, mostly below that good ole Mason Dixon line, where NOT carrying a gun is a mark of defiance of your civil duty as a US citizen. So shooting a dog in the bushes is not unusual and very much like yelling at a little 6 year old girl. it's all about exerting power over things that you are guaranteed to acquire power from by being a bully.

Of course there are exceptions /parts of the implied section of the states where everyone gets along fine without firearms. That being said, I would like to mention that NYC is one of the safest cities in the world (tru dat- look it up!). What can I say? I am a hard core Yankee.
Apparently an over-generalizing one with a parochial outlook. As a gun-owner from the South I can assure you that I would never shoot a dog. A Yankee is a different matter entirely.
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Dear ladytag55,

If you look down, on your right hand lower corner of each post, there is an icon for multiquoting. I know replying to individual messages might look neater, but on the netz, it's all about trying to keep the volume down.

Cheers and keep us posted on the developement with your loco neighbor relationship.

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Re: Angry Swiss dude

your husband and you would never raise your fist against anyone. what i recommend is, next time this a$$hole makes trouble your husband gives him a good slap on the cheek, include some ear as well. this will generate the shock therapy this lunatic truly needs and deserves.
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your husband and you would never raise your fist against anyone. what i recommend is, next time this a$$hole makes trouble your husband gives him a good slap on the cheek, include some ear as well. this will generate the shock therapy this lunatic truly needs and deserves.
Truly excellent idea, especially in view of the fact that his wife is a lawyer.
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Re: Angry Swiss dude

How old is the "angry dude?"

Man I don't think I could ever live in the German speaking area of CH. From all the stories I've heard on here, I think I'd be crying every day, and/or afraid to leave the apartment!

I think the sticker idea is a great one. If it was me, maybe I'd try to knock on his door one day to clear the air. Introduce him to your daughter in a non bell ringing situation. Try to explain that she is still learning and it was an honest mistake. Also teach her how important it is to ring the correct bell. (Although if I was her, I'd be afraid to ring it at all by now!) I dunno...tough situation!
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I am all about the silent treatment. I use it often.
Jeesh I am so conventional I was 100% positive you were a chick .







Good luck with the bastard neighbor. Sounds like he's well set in his ways... avoid, ignore, and when you are sure you will not be found culpable, PRANK THE BEJESUS OUT OF HIM!
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The sticker next to your bell idea is an excellent one.
A six-year-old should very quickly learn which bell to press.
Calling the police would just make matters worse.
You probably don't know what your neighbour's circumstances are.
Maybe he works at night and needs to sleep during the day.
Maybe he is ill.
Maybe he was watching a whodunnit and missed the punch-line.
Having your doorbell rung in mistake for someone else's IS annoying.
Why not just buy a bottle of wine and put it in his postbox with a card simply saying 'sorry'.
You obviously have to somehow learn to live with this person, however annoying and unreasonable he appears to be.
I was thiiis close to clicking "groan" on that post. I mean, really?!? Blame the victim!

Yes, it's true that we don't know the guy's circumstances. All the same, there is NO excuse for flipping out like this guy does.

If he works nights and needs to be undisturbed by day, or is sick, then he needs to disable the doorbell or put a note next to it asking not to ring, lest he be subject to other outrageous doorbell-ringing, e.g. from the postman or, god forbid, a door-to-door salesman!

If it was the TV — that's a joke, right?!?

What is it today with people expecting small children to be small adults? They're not! They're kids! The whole reason, biologically, why humans have such very long childhoods is to give time to learn; at 6 years, the kid is still not even 1/3 of the way done!

I don't totally disagree with the wine-and-apology thing — but if you do it, it should be accompanied by a note making it clear as day that the yelling and obscenities WILL NOT be tolerated.
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Jeesh I am so conventional I was 100% positive you were a chick .







Good luck with the bastard neighbor. Sounds like he's well set in his ways... avoid, ignore, and when you are sure you will not be found culpable, PRANK THE BEJESUS OUT OF HIM!
I am a full on biological chick raised by a biological femal Mom and biological male Dad. We did house an alternative cat family tho. Maybe that's what your picking up on?
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It wasn't this guy, was it?

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That ol' dude seems really nuts.
Don't let him get near your family, or yell at you like that.
Would it be possible to tell the Real Estate agency ?
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I have had a similar experience - though what I would call it a passively aggressive episode. It would seem that one of our neighbours has decided that we don't appropriately clean the communal laundry facilities after us, and posted a note through our door.

Husband went down to establish the problem only to be told - rudely but queitly - that they had noticed more than once that we left the laundry 'unclean' and we should clean it as everyone else does. Now this means me, as it is me who does the laundry. For the record I have to state that I leave our laundry and drying room exactly as I find it and I have to say that is in my book, immaculate. How unclean can you get with two washing machines, a sink, a bin and an empty drying room with 10 lines in it. It seems we should be hoovering the laundry and drying room after every use as 'everyone else does' and which 'is the done thing in Switzerland' - patronisingly put we though . We did resist the temptation to note that in Scotland the done thing was to have laundry facilities in your home.

This it would appear is to save the dust and dog hair 'infiltrating other peoples laundry'. !!!! Now we have a dog, along with almost every other resident but notably not grumpy neighbours. We point out that our dog is of the non shedding variety and we do not contribute to such a problem. Nor have we ever been told that we have to hoover - hubby has been They concede somewhat that perhaps this is others in the block. Also hubby as been here for over 18 months and there is a block caretaker. Nor have I ever seen or heard anyone hoovering and I am down the way of the laundry every day (though not doing laundry). Nor is grumpy neighbour ever in the vacinity of laundry so how on earth would they know of our accussed lack of cleaning.

And so there are three slots a day in our laundry so am I truly to believe that the laundry gets hoovered three times every day???????? Surely not - do the Swiss have just too much time on their hands? How much dust can you get in a windowless concrete basement.

Still if you want hoovering, hoovering you will get.

To say I am mortally offended about such a random complaint and the manner of it is a bit of an understatement and there is lots about th e block that I could complain about but don't on the basis of well live and let live and we all have our own way of doing things.

And bringing my dog into it is simply unforgivable.

Rant over - thanks for listening.

PS: Couple did organsie a block BBQ about 2 months ago which we didn't go to as we had other plans. Is this at the root of our being picked out for special laundry complaints....hmmmm

PPS: We have decided to kill them with kindness which is what I suggest for neighbours of Angry Swiss Dude. Certainly no wine but shame them by continuing to be delightful and nice and very polite and friendly.

PPPS: Despite my above note I won't be going to any of her future BBQs
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