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How old is the "angry dude?"

Man I don't think I could ever live in the German speaking area of CH. From all the stories I've heard on here, I think I'd be crying every day, and/or afraid to leave the apartment!

I think the sticker idea is a great one. If it was me, maybe I'd try to knock on his door one day to clear the air. Introduce him to your daughter in a non bell ringing situation. Try to explain that she is still learning and it was an honest mistake. Also teach her how important it is to ring the correct bell. (Although if I was her, I'd be afraid to ring it at all by now!) I dunno...tough situation!
Are you soooo fainthearted ???

You ought to have it with the "scripts". In one of them you can read that "God is with the steadfast and courageous" and in the other one "Do not be afraid and frightened as I am with you all days"
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Man I don't think I could ever live in the German speaking area of CH. From all the stories I've heard on here, I think I'd be crying every day, and/or afraid to leave the apartment!

I think the sticker idea is a great one. If it was me, maybe I'd try to knock on his door one day to clear the air. Introduce him to your daughter in a non bell ringing situation. Try to explain that she is still learning and it was an honest mistake. Also teach her how important it is to ring the correct bell. (Although if I was her, I'd be afraid to ring it at all by now!) I dunno...tough situation!
You need weep no longer; I can quite honestly assure you that the angry dudes are quite evenly spread around the country. Or the world, for that matter.
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Old 05.07.2011, 08:42
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Apparently an over-generalizing one with a parochial outlook. As a gun-owner from the South I can assure you that I would never shoot a dog. A Yankee is a different matter entirely.
Them's fightin' words those are.

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1. Don't get the police involved - just yet- it might aggrevate him even more
2. Use the sticker idea
3. This is not a typical Swiss thing, that's not the impression I have here even if I only been here 3 month
4. Consider moving to a new flat in the long run once the lease expires
5. You have a lovely daughter
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If the accidental buzzer ringing isn't between the hours of 10:00pm and 6:00am, I'd tell the neighbor to sod off.

But I empathise. Living with a neighbor like that makes you dread even going out your own front door, or letting your daughter play with her friends outside for fear of making any noise that would disturb your neighbor.

Definitely notify your landlord and request some sort of mediation before getting the police involved.
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Apparently an over-generalizing one with a parochial outlook. As a gun-owner from the South I can assure you that I would never shoot a dog. A Yankee is a different matter entirely.
But I did NOT over generalize at all. I said PARTS of the south, and that there are other PARTS where people get along w/o firearms. The words "parts" and "sections" imply the opposite of a generalization. And I can assure you that in the parts of NYC, Massachusetts and Southern California where I have lived, the other Yankees I associated my self with did not shoot dogs for sport, nor for any other reason. And in all the times I have spent (and loved spending) in Louisiana, I have never associated myself with gun toting folk. It's just not in my Yankee blood. But as you generalized, " a Yankee is a different matter entirely."

Now- North... South... East... West... Who cares. I take people as I evaluate them individually. And I make educated estimations about places (that I have not been to) by what I read. So let us start a new...
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Are you soooo fainthearted ???

You ought to have it with the "scripts". In one of them you can read that "God is with the steadfast and courageous" and in the other one "Do not be afraid and frightened as I am with you all days"
I AM that fainthearted! Sad I know. Maybe someone will catch me on a really bad day and I'll let them have it! So far so good though.
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Old 05.07.2011, 15:48
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But I did NOT over generalize at all. I said PARTS of the south, and that there are other PARTS where people get along w/o firearms. The words "parts" and "sections" imply the opposite of a generalization. And I can assure you that in the parts of NYC, Massachusetts and Southern California where I have lived, the other Yankees I associated my self with did not shoot dogs for sport, nor for any other reason. And in all the times I have spent (and loved spending) in Louisiana, I have never associated myself with gun toting folk. It's just not in my Yankee blood. But as you generalized, " a Yankee is a different matter entirely."

Now- North... South... East... West... Who cares. I take people as I evaluate them individually. And I make educated estimations about places (that I have not been to) by what I read. So let us start a new...
Oh great, so you only meant to generalize about parts and sections of a region 63 times the size of Switzerland. Right, that's all right then.

Me, I'm not from the South but I have a real hard time imagining your stereotypical gun-totin southerner - and unlike you I do know quite a few - shooting a dog, ANY dog, for any reason other than self-defense. Dogs are practically sacred down there. You'd as soon shoot somebody's kid. (Unless of course you think they do that too...? The mind boggles.)

Anyway, about this neighbor of yours. He sounds like a right nutter, you shouldn't have to live with that. Try to get/stay on good terms with the other neighbors for a bit of solidarity, and just completely ignore him as much as possible. I've been known to give people my best dumbfounded sorry-no-sprick-Deutsch look even if I understand perfectly well what they're ranting about... seems to have a calming effect somehow and not only on them.
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Re: Angry Swiss dude

What I find annoying about many Swiss complainers is that they don't just say "Please do/don't do X." They invariably add some personal attack implying lack of common sense. ("Das isch doch gsunde Mänscheverstand.") Even though most of the time, it's got nothing to do with common sense...
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Taking the sticker idea a step further, why not put a smiley face on your bell button and a picture of Freddie Kruger on Mr Angry's - make sure your daughter always gets it right.

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What I find annoying about many Swiss complainers is that they don't just say "Please do/don't do X." They invariably add some personal attack implying lack of common sense. ("Das isch doch gsunde Mänscheverstand.") Even though most of the time, it's got nothing to do with common sense...
I have no doubt, none at all, that this is a notion fairly widespread in Switzerland. I am just astonished to hear it from a US-American, a country where the same notion is as widespread as it is in Switzerland. When seeing such things in the USA I always thought "well here you get it, still "the sister republics"
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But I did NOT over generalize at all. I said PARTS of the south, and that there are other PARTS where people get along w/o firearms. The words "parts" and "sections" imply the opposite of a generalization. And I can assure you that in the parts of NYC, Massachusetts and Southern California where I have lived, the other Yankees I associated my self with did not shoot dogs for sport, nor for any other reason. And in all the times I have spent (and loved spending) in Louisiana, I have never associated myself with gun toting folk. It's just not in my Yankee blood. But as you generalized, " a Yankee is a different matter entirely."

Now- North... South... East... West... Who cares. I take people as I evaluate them individually. And I make educated estimations about places (that I have not been to) by what I read. So let us start a new...
I was not accusing Yankees of shooting dogs. I do not know whether that happens or not. I was saying that while I would never shoot a dog, I MIGHT shoot a Yankee!

And (hopefully this is obvious) I was kidding. People often find this difficult to believe, but it is quite possible to be a literate, educated, responsible, gun-owning Southerner.
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Hmmmm. Let me guess- these are huntin' dawgs you are speaking of? Yes- always good to worship the one animal that one uses to shoot at another animal. Completely justifiable.

And if you have trouble envisioning a gun totin' south, then you have not been to parts of Texas. Have you not heard about militias? The KKK? These lovely organizations also exist in Colorado...Montana... It's a sad reality. And guess what? These sorts of people exist (with or without organization) everywhere in the world! Even in the North. Am I generalizing now?

Thank you for your advice on the angry guy across the hall.
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I am more than sure there are A LOT of educated gun totin southerners. I get it. And I absolutely do not mean to offend. There certainly are Yankees (educated and otherwise) who shoot lots of stuff. But I am not friends with any of them. I simply do not get the need to own a gun. Sorry- but I just can't wrap my head around it.
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Sorry to anyone who I many tick off by saying this, but there are parts of the US, mostly below that good ole Mason Dixon line, where NOT carrying a gun is a mark of defiance of your civil duty as a US citizen. So shooting a dog in the bushes is not unusual and very much like yelling at a little 6 year old girl. it's all about exerting power over things that you are guaranteed to acquire power from by being a bully.
This is so not true anywhere in the states. I was born and lived in Georgia for decades and never owned a gun nor did my parents nor did most of the people that I knew. This is an ignorant comment, I'm sorry.

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I don't either. And neither do my Swiss or US friends. In the UK those who organise illegal dog fighting and badger baiting always state that they love their dogs more than anything else - despite the fact they train them to tear each other and other animals apart. I've seen grown men cry in court when their are convicted and their dogs taken away. But we digress, sorry.

I am indeed a gutsy person, and don't let many intimidate me. However, you have 2 choices now- fight and make things much worse- or do your best to diffuse the situation, knowing that YOU are in the right, even if it means a small gesture of goodwill. But I'd say, talk to his wife and get her to see it was a genuine mistake. Good luck. Life's too short to make enemies, if it can at all be avoided.
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And if you have trouble envisioning a gun totin' south, then you have not been to parts of Texas.
You might want to read my post again, maybe.

I didn't say that I couldn't imagine a gun-totin' southerner. In fact I said I KNOW quite a few of them. What I said was that I can't imagine such a person shooting at a dog unless in self defense. Hunting dog, family pet, doesn't matter, dogs are well loved and anybody who went around shooting at them would be considered either crazy or a monster. Poptart's right on the money with this one.

Not sure why we are talking about guns in the first place though. I certainly agree with you that guns are not the way to deal with your angry neighbor.
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Ok I am sorry, but this subject is now sooooo boring.... Guns? Shooting dogs?

It is very very Off Topic!
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Ok I am sorry, but this subject is now sooooo boring.... Guns? Shooting dogs?

It is very very Off Topic!
True, but a combination of firearms and dogs could be the very solution to the OP's complaining neighbor!
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